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WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001
Posted by Sand Box John on Fri Jan 17 17:46:08 2020 Any one here care to take a guess? Answer in a couple of days. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Fri Jan 17 17:58:03 2020, in response to WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Jan 17 17:46:08 2020.* builder's plate? BTW I have one from a BART car.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Fri Jan 17 18:06:33 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Jan 17 17:58:03 2020.* builder's plate? BTW I have one from a BART car. Significantly larger and heavier. Rohr built bart cars did not have the part. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Bill West* on Sat Jan 18 04:09:13 2020, in response to WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Jan 17 17:46:08 2020.* Railcar, one, complete assembly. Bill
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Sat Jan 18 07:08:12 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Bill West on Sat Jan 18 04:09:13 2020.* Railcar, one, complete assembly. To large to load in my car and bring home. The serial number off the part is, TR-575-312. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Sun Jan 19 18:34:35 2020, in response to WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Fri Jan 17 17:46:08 2020.* Fluorescent light ballast connector. Bolt holes used to mount box to angle bracket. Drive motors. Drive motors. Reduction gears. Control connectors. Bolts used to mount box to angle bracket. Motor controler and roll position controler. Motor controler and roll position controler. Motor controler and roll position controler. Last service date. Inside of car. Outside of car. Overall dimension 52 23/32” W X 9 9/32” H X 5 11/16” D. Sign roll in box before replacing with flip dot signs were truncated and had no strip maps and only had destinations for the stations that were in operation at the time of its decommissioning. Roll in the box Red line: Shady Grove, Grosvenor, Van Ness - UDC, Silver Spring, Wheaton. Blue line: Huntinton, National Airport, Addison Road. Orange line: Vienna, Balston, New Carrollton. Green line: U Street, Annacostia. Yellow line Mount Vernon - UDC, Gallery Place, National Airport. The vertical lines and dot on the right between the strip map and station name are used to identify and correctly position station name in the sign box. The longer lines identify the station, the shorter line identifies approaching correct position, the dot correct position. Roll width 37". Roll is not the one in the box. When delivered from Rohr the sign rolls had all the terminal and short turn terminal stations, station name on line color field, with interior strip maps for the unbuilt system. They also had the temporary terminals to accommodate the building out of the syatem, some had interior strip maps and some did not. They also had selected stations that were not typicality used as terminals. Some were station names on line color field, most were white on black field, all displayed station name in place of the interior strip map. They even had a white on black field Dulles Airport. Early truncated versions had interior strip maps, later versions like the one in the box eliminated the interior strip map. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001
Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Sun Jan 19 20:41:08 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Jan 19 18:34:35 2020.* Congratulations! Would be nice if WMATA would strip cars when retired to sell these things as MTA does.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Sun Jan 19 21:01:38 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Jan 19 20:41:08 2020.* Congratulations! Would be nice if WMATA would strip cars when retired to sell these things as MTA does. For some reason the suits never setup a mechanism to transfer this type of surplus property to that department so it could be advertised for sale. I asked the person in charge of selling surplus property back in the 1990s about the roll sign boxes, He said he knew nothing about them so what was not grabbed by employees likely went to the scrapper. This one was grabbed by employee. Did the youtube video play? I can't seem to find the settings to make the video visible to the public without being logged in to youtube. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Mon Jan 20 00:48:36 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Jan 19 21:01:38 2020.* null If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in.lays null If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in.
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Mon Jan 20 01:04:05 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Jan 19 18:34:35 2020.* FYI the video is private. Nice pics, excellent sign!
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Posted by randyo* on Mon Jan 20 01:18:37 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Jan 19 21:01:38 2020.* Here’s another oddity about WMATA as I was told by one of their schedule makers or “compilers” as they are called. Unlike NYCTA where the schedule staff sends out traffic checkers to count passengers at key locations so that the schedule managers can generate timetable with appropriate service levels the Metro board determined the headways and the compilers just put the demands on paper. In NY when the midday headway needs to be decreased for the rush hour the headways are decreased gradually tp provide a smooth transition into and out of the peak periods. from what I was told at WMATA the suits decide that the headway should go immediately to the rush hour level in one shot so for example if the midday headway is 10 min and the rush hour headway is 5 min the headway jumps right from 10 to 5 at the designated time with no graduation. The compliers have no say whatsoever in how the schedules are generated.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 07:40:10 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Jan 20 00:48:36 2020.* null If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in.lays null If the owner of this video has granted you access, please sign in. In Youtube Studio, Selected Video > Edit > Visibility > Public > Update Video. No change. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 07:45:36 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jan 20 01:04:05 2020.* FYI the video is private. It would be public if I knew what setting or settings needs to be set to. Nice pics, excellent sign! Getting it was like winning the lottery. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 07:52:59 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by randyo on Mon Jan 20 01:18:37 2020.* They have somewhat compensated for that by making that headway change outside of the windows of peak fares. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 13:39:34 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Jan 19 18:34:35 2020.* Re uploaded to enable public viewing and comments. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Jan 20 13:52:06 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 13:39:34 2020.* Very nice sign box and it scrolls electrically!Thanks!Sand Box John
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 15:48:39 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jan 20 13:52:06 2020.* Very nice sign box and it scrolls electrically!Thanks!Sand Box John Little rust on bottom of the front. Not exactly the cleanest thing in the world. The drive motors are brushed 115 volt DC. Powered the take up spool with a 12 volt jumper pack. Not enough power to overcome the reduction gears on the other motor. Rewired it to turn both motors, had to apply a little braking to the supply spool so it wouldn't play out faster then the take up spool. I recall the signs rolling a little more the twice as fast as the low voltage DC in the cars was 32. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Jan 20 16:03:29 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 15:48:39 2020.* Wow, what a project, good job!!!
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Posted by randyo* on Mon Jan 20 16:27:35 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 07:52:59 2020.* As a former schedule maker, it doesn’t seem to me to be good scheduling to just jump up and down between off peak and peak headways in one shot without gradually building up and winding down between the appropriate service levels.
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 17:30:59 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jan 20 16:03:29 2020.* Wow, what a project, good job!!! The drive motors are nothing more then 4 wires connect to a terminal block in the end of the box with the motors in it. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Mon Jan 20 17:37:42 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 17:30:59 2020.* Thanks, again.
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Mon Jan 20 17:49:39 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 07:45:36 2020.* I only know how to do it on the desktop... basically: 1. Log into youtube channel 2. Click the video on your "videos" tab 3. Click "edit" 4. On the right side, there should be a drop down titled "Visibility", change "Private" to "Public" or "Unlisted".
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Posted by Sand Box John* on Mon Jan 20 18:39:23 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Jan 20 17:49:39 2020.* I only know how to do it on the desktop... basically: 1. Log into youtube channel 2. Click the video on your "videos" tab 3. Click "edit" 4. On the right side, there should be a drop down titled "Visibility", change "Private" to "Public" or "Unlisted". I did all that to no avail. I ended up making the needed setting when reposting. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore.
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train* on Mon Jan 20 19:00:24 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 13:39:34 2020.* LOVELY!!!
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Mon Jan 20 21:39:11 2020, in response to Re: WMATA: Rohr Part Number 310-0001-001, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Jan 20 18:39:23 2020.* Nice!
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