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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 08:35:34 2019 Tuscarora Almanac - December 10, 1873 - The Book of First Runs and Last Runs The 9th Avenue El opens a new station at 30th Street and closes the one at 29th Street. The line itself had already been extended to 34th Street the previous July. Sources: New York Division Bulletin / April 1994, article "Ninth Avenue El" by Mr. Bernard Linder "New York El Lines 1867 / 1955", Electric Railroads Magazine No.25, December 1956 Tuscarora Almanac - December 10, 1907 - The Book of Wrecks East River, New York Union Ferry Company The Union Ferry Company ferryboat BALTIC is rammed by the Fall River Line steamboat PROVIDENCE while navigating the East River in foggy conditions. Tuscarora Almanac – December 10, 1921 – The Book of First Runs Bronx, New York York Transportation Company The York Transportation Company begins bus operation on Morris Avenue and Jerome Avenue in the Bronx. This replaces the TARS Jerome Avenue Streetcar Line which had ceased operating two months earlier. The route is operated under permits issued by the Department of Plants & Structures as Route 74 Jerome Avenue. It will be discontinued about 1928 but will resume operations in 1947 as the Surface Transit Bx-25 Morris Avenue-Jerome Avenue Line, todays Bx-32. Sources: New York Division Bulletin /April 1997, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Motor Coach Age / January-June 2013, article “Old New York” by Mr. Eli Bai Tuscarora Almanac - December 10, 1950 - The Book of First Runs Jamaica, New York New York City Transit Authority IND Division The IND Queens Line is extended one stop from 169th Street to a new terminal at 179th Street - Hillside Avenue in Jamaica. Tuscarora Almanac – December 10, 1950 – The Book of First Runs Hamilton, Ontario Hamilton Street Railway Trackless trolley service begins in the Canadian city of Hamilton, Ontario. Eighteen T-48 coaches are ordered from the Canadian Car and Foundry Company for use on the Canon Street Line. Source: “Canadian Trolleys In Color” (Morning Sun Books / 2006) Volume 1 by Mr. Robert Halperin Tuscarora Almanac – December 10, 1953 – The Book of Last Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT Division The rush hour No. 3 West End el shuttle between Bay Parkway and Coney Island is discontinued. Source: New York Division Bulletin /October 1966, article by Mr. Bernard Linder Tuscarora Almanac – December 10, 1979 – The Book of First Runs Trenton, New Jersey New Jersey Transit Corporation The State of New Jersey creates the New Jersey Transit Corporation. Its subsidiary New Jersey Transit Bus Operations will take over the bus and light rail operations of Transport of New Jersey. It will also coordinate with Conrail over the commuter rail operations. Source: New York Division /December 1994 Tuscarora Almanac – December 10, 1984 – The Book of Last Runs Manhattan, New York New York City Transit Authority IRT Division This is the last day in service for the R-14’s and R-15’s. In recent years they were assigned to the No.1 and No. 3 lines. Source: New York Division Bulletin /January 1985 Tuscarora Almanac - December 10, 1988 - The Book of First and Last Runs Jamaica, Queens, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT and IND Divisions The Archer Avenue Subway opens for service shortly before midnight. The first train to arrive is a “J” Jamaica-Nassau St Local on the lower level. The train consisted of eight R-42’s; (N) 4587-6,4555-4,4610-1,4594-5. The first “E” Queens-8th Avenue train arrived shortly before midnight on the upper level. The first southbound “E” left just after midnight on December 11 and consisted of eight R-46’s; (N) 910-939-1029-928, 848-623-719-1104. The last “J” from Broad Street to 121st Street had R-42’s (n) 4651-50, 4718-19, 4711-10 and 4662-63. Source: New York Division Bulletin /February 1989 Tuscarora Almanac - December 10, 1990 - The Book of Last Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority BMT Division This is the last day of operation of the R-30’s (actually it was R-30A’s) on the BMT Division. The last train ran as an “M” Myrtle Av-Nassau St-West End Local. The consist was (N) R-30A 8380-8389 R-30A 8410-8399 R-30A 8377-8366 R-30A 8384-8367 New York Division Bulletin /February 1991 Tuscarora Almanac – December 10, 2011 – The Book of First Runs Brooklyn, New York New York City Transit Authority IND and BMT Divisions A free transfer point is opened in Brooklyn. It connects the Jay Street – Borough Hall station used by the IND 8th Avenue (A,C) and 6th Avenue (F) Lines with the BMT Montague Street Line station at Lawrence Street (N,R). Both stations have been renamed “Jay Street – Metrotech”. Sources: New York Division Bulletin / January 2011 The Elkeeper Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by El-Train on Tue Dec 10 10:38:05 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 08:35:34 2019. Passed by Sutphin/Archer on Sunday night. Good lord is it in horrible condition for a now-31 year old station. Missing chunks of ceiling tile haphazardly covered over or left exposed, streams of water pouring into the tracks.Shame that there's century-plus old stations that look better than it. Not certain if it was shoddy construction or the oft-mentioned water table in that part of Jamaica. |
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Posted by Q4 on Tue Dec 10 10:52:12 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by El-Train on Tue Dec 10 10:38:05 2019. Probably both in addition to poor choice of construction material and finishes. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 10 12:12:59 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 08:35:34 2019. A factory fresh (almost) R-15 basking in the Corona sun back in 1950. Always liked the padded seats they came with v/s the wicker that came with other equiptment. It gave them a nice comfy ride. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Dec 10 14:10:32 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 08:35:34 2019. Thank you, as always :) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 14:18:32 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 08:35:34 2019. Addendum to the entries of 12/10/88 and 12/10/90: I was the motorman on both of these. First one planned, second one a coincidence. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Dec 10 15:18:02 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Q4 on Tue Dec 10 10:52:12 2019. Not to mention the mob run Schiavone Construction, which assembled it! |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 15:24:02 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 14:18:32 2019. Addendum to the entries of 12/10/88 and 12/10/90: I was the motorman on both of these. First one planned, second one a coincidence. Good for you Bill. I will add that information to the almanac. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 15:27:58 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 14:18:32 2019. Addendum to the entries of 12/10/88 and 12/10/90: I was the motorman on both of these. Bill: For the 12/10/88 entry which train are you referring to, the E or the J? Thanks, Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 15:28:39 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Dec 10 14:10:32 2019. You're welcome my friend. December 10 was a busy day. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Tue Dec 10 15:41:41 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 10 12:12:59 2019. Does anyone know what year the WF Lo-V's were taken off the Flushing line?Growing up in the 1950s, I remember only the R-12-14-15 stock on that line. And because they were different from the Lo-Vs running on the other IRT lines, the Flushing line always seemed a bit classier to me. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 17:13:03 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Tue Dec 10 15:27:58 2019. The train on the J line.Thanks. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 10 17:20:56 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Tue Dec 10 15:41:41 2019. Lo-Vs, Steinway WF, Q's & Gate cars were all gone from the Flushing Line by the end of 1950 when the R-15 delivery order was completed.The only pre war equiptment still there was used in work service. |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Tue Dec 10 17:36:04 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 10 17:20:56 2019. Thanks very much! |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 10 17:38:14 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Tue Dec 10 17:36:04 2019. You're welcome. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 10 18:56:18 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 17:13:03 2019. Yes..I arrived on the E upstairs. As I mentioned to you before,there was some sort of confusion at the J platform. I believe it was You who pulled that train out back to Broad St. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 10 18:56:19 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 17:13:03 2019. Yes..I arrived on the E upstairs. As I mentioned to you before,there was some sort of confusion at the J platform. I believe it was You who pulled that train out back to Broad St. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 20:33:56 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 10 18:56:18 2019. The confusion was the station wasn't fully open. The midnight J t/o's had trouble entering the station. I almost had to take that same train back out for an extra trip but the scheduled t/o came in at the last moment. As I was waiting to go home on the next train out of Parsons, to 121 where my car was parked, the next t/o did not arrive so they got me for an extra trip anyway, on a Redbird. It was an extremely cold night and I was freezing. The cab heat was ineffective. I was wiped out by the time I got back after 2 AM. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 10 21:09:38 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 20:33:56 2019. Across the system, how much of an isolated, or recurring problem has lack of cab heat been for train operators? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 21:55:44 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 10 21:09:38 2019. Hopefully it's much better today with the new techs, which I did not operate but in the. 68/68A it was very weak. I'm retired almost 6 years so maybe it's better now. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 10 22:28:37 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 21:55:44 2019. Any experience or knowledge about cab heat throughout the earlier R types, from the beginning, R-1 on up?and pre-war BMT cars - any info on cab heat in the Standards & D-types, Multis? I'm assuming there was little or no heat in the IRT cabs - which were really not cabs, just the vestibules with the brake and controller stands covered and locked up when not in use? When the motorman's position in those cars was in use, the door was partially open (when I saw them) with that metal bar holding the door fast, so it could not open all the way - so there was no individual MUDC door cutoff cirucuits or mechanism when the specific vestibule was in active use by a motorman? So when the vestibule was an active t/o use, the operator would be exposed to any kind of inclement weather, due to the door being partially open? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 10 23:40:58 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 20:33:56 2019. I KNOW!I was at the railfan window of your train! You got that right,it was cold as crap that night. Bleeding Cold. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 11 01:56:01 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 10 22:28:37 2019. The M/M only partially opened the door during warm weather for ventilation. Otherwise the door was kept closed. When the C/R opened up the rest of the train’s side doors, the M/M could activate a small lever in the back of the cab that would open the door completely. The M/M could then pull the door closed manually till it got to the point a bar could be attached to hold the door partially open. On battleship (manual door) Hi-Vs the M/M would have to activate the end door handle and open it the appropriate amount and then attach the bar. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Dec 11 01:57:38 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 10 22:28:37 2019. Prewar cars had no cab heat per se but the heat in the rest of the car was so good that a separate cab heater was not needed. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Dec 11 14:32:50 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for December 10, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Dec 10 20:33:56 2019. I remember how cold December 1988 was. At the same time, this was the first new segment opened in my memory, and they were also just about defeating the graffiti plague, so things really seemed hopeful.It was especially nice seeing new stations added to the Jamaica Line, which just a few years earlier seemed doomed. I was, however, surprised that the new line crossed the Van Wyck in a tunnel. I had assumed it would just have been added on right after Jamaica Ave. crossed the expressway. |
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