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Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul) |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Dec 6 13:24:39 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 6 13:20:52 2019. That's not so bad |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Dec 6 14:21:34 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Dec 6 13:24:39 2019. That shade of green doesn't look as good as the turquise. I also can't believe that the TA considered going back to LAHT steel, considering that stainless is easier to clean, and that the R-32s were a couple of tons lighter because of its construction. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Dec 6 15:57:59 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 6 13:20:52 2019. If you take a good look, it seems that the destination signs are IRT specifically the Flushing Line. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Dec 6 16:40:09 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by 3-9 on Fri Dec 6 14:21:34 2019. No it may not be but its better than R-16,27,30. (No offense to all those fans of those cars out there)It's just a rendering they made a fine decision with the ultimate product. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 6 18:35:15 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by randyo on Fri Dec 6 15:57:59 2019. If you take a good look, it seems that the destination signs are IRT specifically the Flushing Line.I see that the artist made a goof. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 6 19:47:02 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 6 18:35:15 2019. IIRC That might have been from a time when someone at the TA was kickin around the idea of a 60 ft IRT car. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 01:18:00 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Dec 6 13:20:52 2019. If any line could handle a 60ft IRT car,it definitely would have been the Flushing Line.Most of the original could too,but the R62 concept called for a 65 foot car. Not wanting to repeat the Long car problems they dealt with evaluating the R44 etc, the 62s came in as standard. There really aren't too many bad order areas that stop them from ordering longer cars for the A division.. It's gap fillers at 14th St that are the main concern. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Dec 7 10:44:28 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Express Rider on Wed Dec 4 08:38:12 2019. Great photos, thanks! |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Dec 7 16:07:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 6 19:47:02 2019. No. The idea of a longer IRT cars didn’t come in till after the MTA takeover and the R-44s were designed. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 7 16:14:53 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 6 19:47:02 2019. Sorry, but I disagree. The R-38 was probably in the design stages about 1965 or so. The idea of a longer length car was successful starting with the R-44. The idea of a stretch car for the "A" division had to be in the early 70's. Here's that "A" Div stretch car in 1st Ave yard (May 1985) 
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 7 17:50:45 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 4 08:05:42 2019. This leaves the R10 as the only 60' car class I've never seen on the old RR line. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:24:30 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 7 16:14:53 2019. How long before someone tapped them on the shoulder about the moving platforms at 14th and S.F. ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:27:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 7 17:50:45 2019. They never did see much use on the southern division. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:31:21 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Edwards! on Sat Dec 7 01:18:00 2019. The Steinway Tunnels have the jog mid-way through and the whole tunnel has unforgiving clearances. I went through there today for the first time in about a a year, and was not holding on looking out the front. I had to grab the grab-iron very fast as it was quite a jolt. So I don't know how they would manage that jerk to one side with catwalks. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 7 19:34:03 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:24:30 2019. How long before someone tapped them on the shoulder about the moving platforms at 14th and S.F. ?Heh, rather quickly I think. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 7 19:45:46 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 7 17:50:45 2019. Well......one can fantasize. lol (Jan. 15, 1990) 
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:50:45 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 7 19:45:46 2019. Is that a scrapyard in New Jersey ?Did someone rescue those roll signs ? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Dec 7 20:01:55 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:50:45 2019. Is that a scrapyard in New Jersey ?The SBK yard at 2nd Ave. in Brooklyn. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Dec 7 21:51:48 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Dec 7 17:50:45 2019. This leaves the R10 as the only 60' car class I've never seen on the old RR line. I would have to agree with you Chris. I've ridden the R-10's on the A,AA,BB,C,CC,GG and H trains but never on the RR. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 8 00:28:30 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Dec 7 21:51:48 2019. I rode on an R-10 D once up CPW. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 8 07:23:28 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 8 00:28:30 2019. South sign must have lacked Brighton Beach, unless it was going to Coney Island. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 8 09:38:35 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 8 07:23:28 2019. Yep, it was blank. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 8 18:02:50 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 7 19:27:58 2019. The only place I remember seeing them in the Southern was on the B because thay were never equipped with proper signage for those routes. I had one on one of my midday trips to 57/6 and the north signs had to be blanked because they lacked 57 St destination signs. Even the route signs were slightly incorrect since they didn’t have letters but only route descriptions which on the B read “Wash Hts 6t Ave Lcl” and 57 St trains didn't go to Wash Hts. Besides the presence of an R-10 train on the B in the first place, my north motor was 3138 the car with the vents in the side door windows. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 8 22:16:57 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] R-38's (Pre-General Overhaul), posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Dec 4 08:05:42 2019. BEAUTIFUL!!! |
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