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Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 30 16:42:12 2019

Schedule & Routes
Just a last minute reminder for those who are not aware of the schedule & routes of the Holiday Train.
Pay close attention, especially on Dec 1 & 8. Uptown run will be 8th Ave on those two dates only.



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Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by andy on Sat Nov 30 16:56:31 2019, in response to Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 30 16:42:12 2019.

Also remember that at least tomorrow (Dec. 1) you cannot get to 2nd Ave-Houston via the downtown F (it's re-routed via 8th Ave. between W 4th and Jay St.). Either catch the Nostalgia Train uptown at Broadway - Lafayette, one stop further north, or catch it going downtown at Broadway-Lafayette and wait for it it to turn at 2nd Ave.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 30 17:09:47 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by andy on Sat Nov 30 16:56:31 2019.

Thanks for the tip.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 30 17:30:13 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by andy on Sat Nov 30 16:56:31 2019.

Or take a Manhattan bound F from Metro Tech.

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Posted by VictorM on Sat Nov 30 18:19:17 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 30 17:30:13 2019.

Or take southbound M to Essex St for an uptown F.

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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Nov 30 18:29:47 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by andy on Sat Nov 30 16:56:31 2019.

Yes, on Sundays, December 1 and 29, the G.O. is in effect for the Coney Island-bound "F" trains will be routed via the "A" on those dates (actually also on Saaurdays, November 30 and December 28).

Also, for the weekend of December 14-15, 207th Street-bound "A" trains will be routed via the "F" between Jay Street and West 4th Street. So, watch and experience the tight squeeze and delays of four different services ["A", "F", "M" and the Holiday Train] when they do the conga line between 2nd Avenue and West 4th Street.

-William A. Padron
["Houston-Lafayette St."]


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Posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 30 18:45:53 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Nov 30 18:29:47 2019.

Could they run the Holiday Special out of the E train WTC terminal ?

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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat Nov 30 18:58:00 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Sat Nov 30 18:45:53 2019.

No, but guess what is going to happen with the "C" route during the weekend of December 14-15, and this involves with the "A" too. From the Mta web page...

"SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS
Dec 14 - 15, Saturday & Sunday
(C) Service between Canal St, Manhattan and Euclid Av, Brooklyn is replaced by the (A) and free shuttle buses

(C) trains run in Manhattan between 145 St and Canal St and via the (E) to/from World Trade Center, the last stop.

Shuttle buses run in Brooklyn between Jay St-MetroTech and Utica Av, making all stops.

(A) trains run local between Utica Av and Euclid Av.

Travel Alternatives:
For Chambers St and Fulton St, use the nearby World Trade Center (E) station.

For High St, take a Brooklyn-bound (A) or use the nearby York St (F) station. Transfer between trains at W 4 St.

For stations between Jay St-MetroTech and Euclid Av, take a Shuttle bus and/or the (A) local.
Transfer between trains and shuttle buses at Jay St-MetroTech and/or Utica Av.

This service change affects one or more ADA stations."

Which means that the Holiday Train, planning to end their uptown runs at 145th Street for Sunday, December 15, will either have truncate their runs instead at 125th Street, or when it gets to 145th, discharge all the passengers off the train quickly so as to run lite north of the station to make room of the "C" coming into there (that was done in 2017 with the same situation at 96th Street-2nd Avenue).

Mass confusion is up ahead soon!

-William A. Padron
["145"]


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Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Nov 30 20:14:08 2019, in response to Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 30 16:42:12 2019.

I hope someone films at least one n/b trip from the RFW either tomorrow or on the 8th.

Can't wait to see nine cars! Hope 103 is rarin' and ready to go!

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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 21:04:14 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by William A. Padron on Sat Nov 30 18:58:00 2019.

There was a time when there was a moratorium on all major general orders between Thanksgiving day and New Years Day but thanks to the cesspool of incompetence that passes for TA management thatís seems to no longer be the case.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Nov 30 21:19:47 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 21:04:14 2019.

ha I believe you
How dreadful.

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Posted by Westcode44 on Sat Nov 30 22:11:59 2019, in response to Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 30 16:42:12 2019.

More Importantly--will R1-103 be in the consist.?

WE-44

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 30 22:19:27 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 21:04:14 2019.

Absolutely ridiculous that 10 days before Christmas we have a bustitution thru a major corridor.

Not even at the far end but one which requires train to his and back to train.

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 30 22:19:44 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 21:04:14 2019.

Absolutely ridiculous that 10 days before Christmas we have a bustitution thru a major corridor.

Not even at the far end but one which requires train to his and back to train.

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 30 22:20:41 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Nov 30 22:19:44 2019.

Damn spell check.

That's train to bus and back to train.

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Posted by TeRrApiN Station on Sun Dec 1 01:01:05 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by VictorM on Sat Nov 30 18:19:17 2019.

Or get out of the system at B'way-Lafayette St and WALK over to the 2 Av station!!

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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 06:25:24 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by TeRrApiN Station on Sun Dec 1 01:01:05 2019.

Another fare, right ?

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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 06:26:35 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 21:04:14 2019.

PATH suspended their weekend WTC closures between T'Giving weekend and year end. That was unexpected.

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Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 07:33:47 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 06:26:35 2019.

That surprised me when I went from NWK to WTC yesterday. I thought I was gonna have to go to 33 via HOB.

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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 07:53:01 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 07:33:47 2019.

Their project is probably running on or ahead of schedule, and the HOB/33rd trains simply could not handle the load. They barely make do as it is, especially with ridiculous 35 minute intervals extending up to 8am on Saturdays and 10am on Sundays. Cheaper to extend the EXPL trains to WTC than add a supplemental HOB-33rd service, or no one at HOB would be able to board the northbound JSQ trains. The crowding at Newport(Pavonia) would also be impossible with the shopping mall adjacent.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 1 10:26:43 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Westcode44 on Sat Nov 30 22:11:59 2019.

We'll all find out soon enough. The suspense is killing me!:)

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 10:51:45 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 06:25:24 2019.

Not if you have an unlimited.

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Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 11:11:23 2019, in response to Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Nov 30 16:42:12 2019.

If you are planning to ride the Holiday Train today, please note that it is running on Sixth Avenue between W 4th and 59th Street, not 8th Ave. as published.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 11:19:02 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 11:11:23 2019.

N.B. The train is running on CPW north of 58 to 125.

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 11:42:32 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 11:11:23 2019.

Thanks man! Was going to catch it at 42nd/8th!!!! Now I'll go to 42nd/6th!!!!!!!

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 11:43:54 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 11:42:32 2019.

You're welcome.

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 11:55:33 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 11:43:54 2019.

Scratch that. MNCR is too slow on weekends. I'll catch it at 125. Thanks again.

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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:58:18 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 11:42:32 2019.

IDK where that info came from. I am presently on the Holiday Train waiting for the 12 noon to leave. I was also on the first round trip. We went north via EIGHTH Ave. from W.4th. Southbound we went Sixth Ave. as normal. There is a work train northbound track 4 at 42/6 on the D line track. So the F/M are normal both ways.

Sorry to report 103 is absent. It made a good test run from 207YD to Euclid & back but now she has propulsion issues. Don't know if she'll run this year or not as she needs more work.

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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 12:01:26 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:58:18 2019.

Thanks for the update Bill. Appreciate all the live reports from the field.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 12:07:30 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Dec 1 11:42:32 2019.

Go back to 42/8. We cane down on Sixth but we're going back up on 8th. At W 4 now

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Dec 1 12:10:02 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:58:18 2019.

I thought we were going to go back up on Sixth, as we did coming down!

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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 14:13:22 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:58:18 2019.

When did the 103 last run ?

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Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 1 17:12:26 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 1 14:13:22 2019.

As best it can be determined, R-1 car #103 was last operated around 1980. It did not run in 1982 or 1983.

To whit, an image of R-1 #103 on what is most likely on a Transit Museum "Nostalgia Special"...

R-1 #103 + other R-1/9's, Avenue P, Culver Line, 7/4/1980.

-William A. Padron
["City Of New York"]


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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 1 18:10:50 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:58:18 2019.

Oh, drat!!!

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Dec 1 18:57:29 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 1 17:12:26 2019.

Thanks for that this was a topic of conversation on the train today.

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Posted by Snarf368 on Sun Dec 1 19:58:58 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 1 17:12:26 2019.

Thanks for the pic!

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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 2 09:59:57 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by William A. Padron on Sun Dec 1 17:12:26 2019.

How did the cherry-pick which ones to keep ? With the 100, I am surprised they saved another one that is near the original.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Dec 2 10:45:39 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 2 09:59:57 2019.

Maybe it was saved for the axiflo fans.

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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 2 15:46:57 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:58:18 2019.

Thanks,Bill.
I will definitely have to make one of those trips one of days.
Not so easy making those Thruway trips like it use to be.

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Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 2 16:14:24 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Dec 2 10:45:39 2019.

I would say thatís definitely the reason. Aside from saving the general design R-1/9s, available oddballs were also preserved like 484 with the bullseye lighting and 103 with the axiflow fans and of course 1575 with the entirely different R-10 style body.

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Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 2 16:57:17 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 2 16:14:24 2019.

Too bad the Standards did not get such a preservation record.

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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Dec 2 19:07:30 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 2 16:14:24 2019.

381 was part of the group of R-1s that ran in revenue service on the Sea Beach in 1931.

401 happened to serve as a schoolcar in Jamaica Yard, posing as 491. Since it was still pretty much intact, except for a signbox and one set of doors courtesy of Seashore's 175, it was a no-brainer.

Not sure about the significance behind 1000 and 1300.

1802 was the Omega of the fleet. Another no-brainer.

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Dec 2 20:48:47 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Dec 2 19:07:30 2019.

Well 1300 was still around as an office, correct?

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Posted by randyo on Tue Dec 3 01:30:03 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 2 16:57:17 2019.

Well, there were 3 basic designs of the BMT steels. 2000-2499 were the same design with s pseudo turtle back roof with individual roof vents and small roll signs. 2500-2599 had the same roof design with a slightly different style of roof vents and larger roll signs. 2600-2899 and the 4000 series trailers had a deck roof more conventional side vents and the large roll signs. What would probably have been necessary to preserve all types would have been the current 2390/1/2 unit, to show one design, a 2500 unit to show the second design and at least one 2600 A unit to show the third. If 2 X 2600 A cars had been retained, a complete 8 car train of steels could have been assembled and used in holiday and other special services.

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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 3 06:36:16 2019, in response to Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Dec 2 20:48:47 2019.

Well 1300 was still around as an office, correct?

I was told #1300 was chosen as a museum car for being the first car of the 13XX series. There was #1068 as a Quality Control control car.
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 3 06:52:44 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 3 06:36:16 2019.

Could the Lo-V and the Arnine MU ?

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Posted by Mr RT on Tue Dec 3 09:49:13 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 3 06:52:44 2019.

Yes, BERA has done it with LoV, HiV & R-9 in a train

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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Dec 3 09:52:24 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 3 06:36:16 2019.

Wow look at that. That's a way to put a/c in a car.

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Posted by Westcode44 on Tue Dec 3 13:24:29 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Mr RT on Tue Dec 3 09:49:13 2019.

"Special Operation" I don't recall the Hi V.

WE-44

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Re: [PHOTO] Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Dec 3 14:18:22 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Holiday Train Schedule & Routes, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Dec 3 06:36:16 2019.

Will you be riding it on the 15th?

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