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Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Nov 28 09:48:41 2019



Tuscarora Almanac - November 28, 1948 - The Book of First Runs

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Board of Transportation
IND Division

The IND Fulton Street Line is extended from Broadway - East New York Avenue to Euclid Avenue. Stations are opened at Liberty Avenue, Van Siclen Avenue, Shephard Avenue and Euclid Avenue.


Tuscarora Almanac Ė November 28, 1962 Ė The Book of Wrecks

Brooklyn, New York
New York City Transit Authority
BMT Division

A crane falls from the BMT Culver El structure at West 6th Street and Sheepshead Bay Road resulting in the deaths of three workers. The crane, No. 20158 was built in 1914 as BRT 3055.

Source: New York Division Bulletin / December 1962



Tuscarora Almanac - November 28, 1969 - The Book of Wrecks

Bronx, New York
New York City Transit Authority
IND Division

There was a collision on the IND Grand Concourse Line when an empty ten car "CC" rolled backwards from 167 Street and crashed into another "CC" train at the161 Street Station during the PM rush. The consist of the empty train was (n) 501, 456, 393, 660, 513, 428, 354, 275, 621 and 434. The consist of the train at 161 Street was (n) 634, 568, 381, 511, 527, 504, 547, 563, 619 and 444. Cars 434 and 634 were badly damaged.

Postscript per Mr. Padron: Car 381 is now (2018) part of the Transit Museum fleet.

Source: New York Division Bulletin /December 1969

Larry, RedbirdR33


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 28 13:51:22 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Nov 28 09:48:41 2019.

The IND Fulton Street Line is extended from Broadway - East New York Avenue to Euclid Avenue. Stations are opened at Liberty Avenue, Van Siclen Avenue, Shephard Avenue and Euclid Avenue.

And, maybe, 76th Street.


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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 28 14:19:19 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Nov 28 09:48:41 2019.

Interesting that they ran 10-car CC trains. Locals on the IND were typically eight cars max.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by gbs on Thu Nov 28 20:07:09 2019, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Nov 28 09:48:41 2019.


The IND Fulton Street Line is extended from Broadway - East New York to Euclid Avenue

The first time I rode that stretch eastbound in the late '60s the entire length was timed with two-shot timers. Yes, there are turns both before and after Liberty Av, but the timers went all the way to Euclid Av, including the long straight track after the last turn past Liberty Av. There were no timers in the westbound direction, with those same two turns.

Were those eastbound timers there from day 1 in 1948? Why were they deemed necessary? Nowadays there are some westbound timers too, but not the whole length.



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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Nov 28 20:33:46 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Nov 28 13:51:22 2019.

SSHHHH!!! Not tonight- it's Thanksgiving!

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Keeping the RAPID in Rapid Transit on Fri Nov 29 17:01:55 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by gbs on Thu Nov 28 20:07:09 2019.

I don't know if the timers were there from 1948 nor why they were deemed necessary, but there are 12 timers in all southbound (eastbound) between Bway Jct and Euclid.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 20:28:10 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 28 14:19:19 2019.

The CC as far back as I can remember ran 8 car trains on the shoulders and 10 car trains in the peak. The way it worked was that the first few CCs out of Bedford Pk which were 8 cars would be returning just as the last of the 10 car CCs departed Bedford so the PM rush would start and finish with 8 car trains. Donít forget, the CC was the only IND local that served both Manhattan and an outer borough unlike the AA/BB which served Manhattan only and the GG which didnít enter Manhattan at all.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 1 10:25:10 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 20:28:10 2019.

I didn't see too many CC trains back in the day - mainly because we rarely found ourselves in the city on a weekday.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by randyo on Sun Dec 1 17:08:09 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 1 10:25:10 2019.

What is interesting is that after the CCs started running to Bkln, replacing the E which was 10 cars, the CC ran only 8 car trains.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Dec 1 18:12:23 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 1 17:08:09 2019.

Yeah, go figure.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Dec 2 10:34:43 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 1 17:08:09 2019.

And when the CC had the R-46s, as I remember those were six car trains.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Q4 on Mon Dec 2 13:59:33 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 30 20:28:10 2019.

Didn't the EE serve Queens and Manhattan?

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by HART BUS on Mon Dec 2 14:39:47 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by Q4 on Mon Dec 2 13:59:33 2019.

Yes it did. IIRC it ran from Whitehall Street to Continental Ave

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 2 15:40:56 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by randyo on Sun Dec 1 17:08:09 2019.

Yes.
With R32 equipment.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by randyo on Mon Dec 2 16:26:54 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by Q4 on Mon Dec 2 13:59:33 2019.

True, but unlike the CC which remained in existence for many years until the routes were changed, the original EE was only a temporary service that ran until full express service was established in Queens and the second EE was merely what turned out to be a temporary substitute for the BMT service that utilized IND tracks.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Dec 2 19:04:29 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Dec 2 10:34:43 2019.

Yes, in 1980. I remember that.

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Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28

Posted by Express Rider on Tue Dec 3 23:13:10 2019, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for November 28, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 2 16:26:54 2019.

Thank you for clarifying.

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