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[PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019

Some photo observations over the years at the Trenton, NJ station.
On a cold January day, Amtrak E-60 #964 enters the Trenton station. (January 1979)

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Classic ex-PRR E44 #4601 leads a freight drag into Trenton. (January 1979)
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When Amtrak trains were pulled by GG-1's. (January 1979)
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They were awesome and imposing. !
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SEPTA Silverliners showing SEPTA and PC logos. (January 1979)
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(May 1979)


NRHS Fantrip I attended featuring MP-54's that toured various SEPTA branches. (April 29, 1979)
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If my memory serves me correctly, this was the inaugural run of the NJT Mutlilevel cars. (Dec. 11, 2006)
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When they were new and clean !
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Thanks for viewing !!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Oct 19 10:31:38 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

Super!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 19 10:36:53 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

AWESOME!!!!!!!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Dave on Sat Oct 19 11:20:21 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

Sweet! I remember the ghetto grills on the E60's very well. I'm surprised two GG-1's were needed for that train. The Pennsy had no problem pulling a long string of heavyweights behind one GG-1. Maybe the second "motor" was deadheading?

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 19 11:41:44 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

I didn't sea those GGs when I was in Trenton (last week)
ROARING

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by chuchubob on Sat Oct 19 11:58:46 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Dave on Sat Oct 19 11:20:21 2019.

The Broadway Limited used two GG-1s for a while considering that one might croak on the way to Harrisburg during the era of deferred maintenance.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by chuchubob on Sat Oct 19 12:01:13 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

Very nice!
The motors in the second photo are former Virginian E-33s.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 19 14:52:21 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by chuchubob on Sat Oct 19 11:58:46 2019.

Here is a not that great pic taken in the late 70s of two GG1s coasting thru Lancaster Sta with the Broadway in tow. Behind those engines is the cleaning up of a derailed Amtrak ballast train which clipped a few power poles in the process.


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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 19 15:21:22 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

Like.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 15:26:12 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by chuchubob on Sat Oct 19 12:01:13 2019.

indeed! the prototypes for the E44s.
Very nice pix, Bill.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 15:29:16 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Dave on Sat Oct 19 11:20:21 2019.

in 67 or 68, I met a guy who was working in the repair shop at Sunnyside. He described motormen (engineers) coming on duty being assigned units whose defects had not been cleared searching to see if a different engine had less critical problems.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 19 15:29:43 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

Nice! I didn't know there was electric freight engines running as recently as the late 70s.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Oct 19 15:38:54 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

YES !!

WONDERFUL PHOTOS

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:02:35 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Avid Reader on Sat Oct 19 10:31:38 2019.

Super!

"Avid" thanks.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:03:29 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Oct 19 10:36:53 2019.

AWESOME!!!!!!!

Thanks, you would have loved the GG-1's.

Bill Newkirk


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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:05:59 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 19 11:41:44 2019.

I didn't sea those GGs when I was in Trenton (last week)
ROARING


Good thing you didn't wait. lol

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:06:50 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Oct 19 15:21:22 2019.

Like.

Thanks Bill.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 16:08:34 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:03:29 2019.

fond memorties. Fall 1967 speeded up Afternoon Congressional allowed 100MPH Penn to 30th in under 90 mins. Stopped somewhere on a clocker as a late Patriot zoomed by. GG1s were genuinely AWESOME.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:16:18 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 19 15:29:43 2019.

Nice! I didn't know there was electric freight engines running as recently as the late 70s.

Conrail GG-1 freight crawling through Rahway, NJ (September 1978)
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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:18:54 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Oct 19 15:38:54 2019.

YES !!

WONDERFUL PHOTOS


Thanks, photos and videos of GG-1's don't do any justice. Seeing and hearing them in person was something else !

Sorry, no RFW unless you're the engineer or fireman. lol

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:25:16 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 15:26:12 2019.

indeed! the prototypes for the E44s.
Very nice pix, Bill.


Thanks but both locos have the same #46XX numbers.

I stand corrected, it looks like they're both E-33's.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Oct 19 16:54:46 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 08:45:09 2019.

I remember going to Sunnyside Yard on the Queens Blvd. Overpass and finding it full of GG1s. Before the Toasters came along (but after the E60s were restricted to 85 MPH) those leviathans ruled the NEC. They pulled everything from Silver trains to NJ Transit locals. It was worth your wait on Thanksgiving weekend to see what strangeness the G's were bringing with them everywhere north of DC!

Fantastic photos, thanks for taking me back!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 19 17:20:13 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 16:08:34 2019.

IIRC, their last Amtrak assignment was to hold down Metroliner schedules with Amfleets and HEP generator cars after the Metroliner MUs were reassigned.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by chuchubob on Sat Oct 19 17:38:27 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:25:16 2019.

E-44's have 44XX numbers.
Arsenal Tower, Philadelphia; Nov 30, 1974



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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Oct 19 18:10:05 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:18:54 2019.

THAT IS SO TRUE

THANKS FOR POSTING

ENJOYED FROM 3000 MILES AWAY

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 20:30:55 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Oct 19 17:20:13 2019.

could well be. The MU (real) Metroliner debacle was sad. From the beginning, bad decisions. PRR wanted the drop equalizer trucks rather than Budd's Pioneer IIIs, split the electrical order (as did other purchasers) between GE and WH. The latter blew the breakers at the substations. In the first year (18 months late) Metroliner trains were Parlors and coach/cafe because the WH full coaches weren't ready for prime time.

They were faster, and had telephones availble to all riders--previous railphone services on the Royal Blue, Senator, and Congressionals were only available to first class passengers. As the trains had functional PA, one could be paged to answer a phone call. Today, none of that matters, but at the time this was serious convenience.

When tested on the straightaway S of New Brunswick, they redlind only 5MPH slower than the Acela on the same ROW.



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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 20:35:31 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by chuchubob on Sat Oct 19 17:38:27 2019.

didn't they stretch into the 45xxs? The late numbers were E44a s IIRC but then the originals got upgraded to "a"specs.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by chuchubob on Sun Oct 20 08:42:52 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 19 20:35:31 2019.

The highest number was 4465.



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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 20 12:06:48 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by chuchubob on Sun Oct 20 08:42:52 2019.

Too bad the green new deal won't put those back into production. I always liked them.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 20 12:07:55 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 19 16:18:54 2019.

Now you got me curious.

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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 20 12:24:30 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 20 12:06:48 2019.

I still remember a pair of them quietly moving toward the main at Enola back in '62. They were impressive. As to new electrification or re-electrification under a greennew deal, that will require agitation from below because electric freight operation has been gone too long for most of the youngergreenies don't have a picture ofthe advantages. Worse yet, some of the NIMBYs on the SF Peninsula have tried to object to electrified Caltrain as increasing noise.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 20 13:00:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Trenton, NJ, posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sat Oct 19 15:29:43 2019.

Conrail electric freight shown here on the Pt Deposit river line near COLA tower in Lancaster Co in the late 70s, shortly before the wire came down, probably forever.


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