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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Oct 12 13:29:06 2019, in response to Re: THE STUDY RELEASED-Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Oct 12 08:42:07 2019. so arephysical traffic signals onstreets. CBTC in all autos and trucks! |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Oct 12 18:48:19 2019, in response to Re: THE STUDY RELEASED-Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 11 19:05:02 2019. Is there a demonstrated high demand for such access? Not everyone can have a one-seat ride to everywhere the subway goes. The subway is not Uber or Lyft. We can’t expect the subway to beat Uber/Lyft by trying to BE Uber/Lyft. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Oct 12 19:06:31 2019, in response to Re: THE STUDY RELEASED-Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by 3-9 on Fri Oct 11 17:49:11 2019. G trains will be carrying mostly air if the G returns to Queens Blvd. And you’d still have the issue of turning trains from two lines at 71st-Continental. At least if one of the current local services is rerouted to Rockaway, you’d only have to turn the other local at 71st. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 13 08:41:38 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 11 13:10:15 2019. I used to have a friend that lived in that building. There is plenty of space on the other side of the building for a parking lot. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 13 08:45:15 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 12 10:04:55 2019. And just how could such a deal be brokered? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 13 09:36:49 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 13 08:41:38 2019. It would be a NIMBY issue using parking as an excuse regardless of where they place the parking. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 13 10:18:02 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 13 09:36:49 2019. I know that is for sure. I remember the whining the last time this idea was floated in the 80's. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Oct 13 13:35:22 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 12 10:04:55 2019. Tax assessment?People are crying about that enough as it is. Especially Now since our "President" gave himself and his buddies a hefty tax cut, shifting the burdens on EVERY BODY ELSE. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 13 16:09:03 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 11 23:02:21 2019. Yours didn’t make much sense. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 13 16:10:17 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 11 17:30:23 2019. I explained why it could come back as long as the features I described are implemented. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 13 16:13:22 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Steamdriven on Fri Oct 11 18:26:44 2019. Why would there be union or any other problems since the bMT used (K) signls for years with no trouble. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 13 16:25:06 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 11 19:37:24 2019. Actually, not really. Even after so called “unification” the new “divisions” of the NYCTS operate pretty much the way the did under private operation. When the IRT R types started arriving in 1948, they retained the IRT style cab door and door control keys as used on the Hi-Vs and Lo-Vs instead of the IND type universal door key which eventually ended up being used starting with the R-62s. Also, when the tracks were realigned N/O Westchester Sq and upgraded signaling was installed on the IRT West Farms Line, the signals continued to display the IRT style aspects instead of the IND aspects until the late 1950s. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Oct 13 19:40:58 2019, in response to Re: THE STUDY RELEASED-Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 9 23:12:51 2019. *shocked pikachu face* |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Oct 13 20:18:10 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 13 16:09:03 2019. Oh well.Then why bother? |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Oct 13 21:20:55 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by randyo on Sun Oct 13 16:25:06 2019. Even as late as the 1990s, some IRT lines used railroad style home signals instead of IND/BMT signals. I remember at 149 St/CC southbound #5's got red over green instead of green over yellow (which they did get at 125 St). I guess it kept the T.O.'s alert! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 14 00:36:57 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Oct 12 08:03:41 2019. Sounds good!!!!Thanks for the info!! |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 14 02:16:07 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by VictorM on Sun Oct 13 21:20:55 2019. The signals at 149 are among the ones I was talking about. AFAIK, when the West Farms spur was torn down circa 1952, the entire line from 149 St to 241 St was upgraded with IND style signals capable of automatic key by as opposed to the old brass key manual type. Despite that the “new” signals continued to display IRT style aspects. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 14 02:17:49 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 14 00:36:57 2019. A small editorial in Saturday’s Daily news came out in support of reenergizing the RBB as a branch of the subway. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 14 06:04:11 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 14 02:17:49 2019. Queensway Park fans will re-emerge. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 14 07:11:02 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 14 02:17:49 2019. A small editorial in Saturday’s Daily news came out in support of reenergizing the RBB as a branch of the subway.Could the Daily news be reading our posts ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 14 07:16:00 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 14 06:04:11 2019. Queensway Park fans will re-emerge.That's my concern. If this ROW isn't re purposed for transit, it will be re purposed for a "park." Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Oct 14 09:07:40 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 10 15:50:36 2019. They also want to replace overpasses at places such as Park Lane South and Jamaica Avenue simply because they have been unused and not painted since 1962 and would not meet seismic requirements.You never know what condition those overpasses are. They haven't been maintained since before 1962. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Oct 14 14:05:28 2019, in response to Re: THE STUDY RELEASED-Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Sat Oct 12 18:48:19 2019. Does anybody have the ridership numbers for the G pre-cutoff? I believe it was 2009. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 14 16:25:20 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Oct 14 09:07:40 2019. They have been maintained to the extent that they don’t collapse into the street below, but that doesn’t mean they can hold up a train anymore. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 14 18:32:30 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Oct 14 09:07:40 2019. They need testing, but I would not automatically declare them all junk until then. It is not like they have deteriorated from trains rolling over them like the viaducts at Valley Stream, Lynbrook, and Rockville Center having crumbled apart over the last 35 years needing major repairs, though the trees growing on RBB ones them with their steady weight has to have an impact. |
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Posted by VictorM on Mon Oct 14 20:45:58 2019, in response to Re: Study of old Rockaway rail line’s revival back on track, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 14 18:32:30 2019. Also they haven't had road salt dumped on them, reducing that source of corrosion. |
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