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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019 Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Sep 20 15:20:37 2019, in response to Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019. while Amtrak's extremely ignorant and stupid leaders may think the LDTs are dying, having recently racked up another several thousand miles, I disagree.I traveled СA Zephyr to Chicago, did a side trip w/an old friend to the Hoosier Traction Meet (annual 2 days of streetcar,subway,interurban news and history in Indianapolis) and then Texas Eagle/Sunst Ltd (thru sleeper) to LA to visit friends, to SLO, and finally home to Oakland. Pax were end-to-end, short hop and everything in between requiring double stopping at many stations with ultra short platforms. The Zephyr was nearly full most of the way and jammed between Grand Junction and Denver. The Texas Eagle was a shorter,less full train, but not empty, the Sunset Limited was fuller. On the Zephyr the diner was busy, though not all tables were used; on the Eagle and Sunset, the diners had minimal staffing thus few slots for coach passengers and were not heavily patronized. The food was adequate--edible, very much obsolete american cuisine not yet caught up to either fresh or healthy that I am used to in the Bay Area. I get my annual fill of iceberg lettuce on Amtrak. As to comfort, the A/C mostly worked--cooler in the hallways than the roomettes, but tolerable; and the plumbing all functioned as advertized. Union Pacific delayed us south and west bound with freight interference and slow orders, but I must say that a 3 hrs late Sunset (due into LA at 5:35 AM) was actually a plus. Some further thoughts. The dining staffswere mostly okay, but it would seem that they could have drawn more coach passengers if they stretched service hours. Coming into LA as late as we did, they could have sold a short breakfast menu--instead they sat watching out the window. OTOH, on the Zephyr, the LSA in the diner walked the aisle w/ a tray of desserts--a good upselling move. Looking forward to a jaunt to PDX in January. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 16:17:38 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Sep 20 15:20:37 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 20 16:52:05 2019, in response to Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019. Yeah, "dying". They said that from the time the first SDP40F hit the rails. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 20 17:58:57 2019, in response to Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019. That WSJ article was taking dictation from Stephen Gardner. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 18:58:20 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Joe V on Fri Sep 20 17:58:57 2019. i enjoyed it |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 20 23:10:30 2019, in response to Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019. They're not dying, they're being killed. |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 23:38:07 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 20 23:10:30 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Sep 21 01:33:50 2019, in response to Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019. Considering several LD routes have the highest ridership since Amtrak was formed, I wouldn't say they're dying at all.They will have a tough time killing off the Auto Train, LSL, Silver Meteor, Coast Starlight, Empire Builder, California Zephyr, and possibly City of New Orleans and Silver Star. I don't have high hopes for Sunset LTD, Cardinal. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Sep 21 03:22:58 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Sep 20 15:20:37 2019. OK....so if what you say is true, and I hope it is, how do we make that known & start to make things happen to imprve & expand long distane rail? |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Sep 21 03:25:54 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 20 23:10:30 2019. So how do we stop it? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 21 04:12:09 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Sep 21 01:33:50 2019. No, but Ben Biaggini is laughing in whatever part of Hell he belongs in. Anderson has been channeling Espee's tactics of the 60s attempting to run off pax by degrading services, deliberately inconvenient schedules (5:35 AM arrival at LA for Sunset Limited as example), |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 21 04:12:59 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Sep 21 03:22:58 2019. write your Congress critters,Senators. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 21 12:28:01 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Sep 21 01:33:50 2019. Well then, maybe Nixon should have deregulated the railroads rather than going the other direciton and doing stuff like creating Amtrak. Might have resulted in things like the PRR and NYC separating from Penn Central (for example), and private investment in high-speed rail in earnest. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Sep 21 13:57:27 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Long-Distance Trains, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 21 12:28:01 2019. Well then, maybe Nixon should have deregulated the railroadsIf Nixon had deregulated the railroads, every passenger train in the country would have been cancelled the instant the deregulation went into effect. rather than going the other direciton and doing stuff like creating Amtrak. Dude, the railroads asked him to create Amtrak. Obviously, they would have preferred to cancel all passenger service entirely, but accepting that the government would never allow it they instead demanded that the government take it over. Might have resulted in things like the PRR and NYC separating from Penn Central (for example), The PRR and NYC merged because they were both going bankrupt. Why on Earth would they have wanted to separate and split up their assets, only to end up having to compete with each other? and private investment in high-speed rail in earnest. Pipe dream. Private companies can't build high speed rail on their own. Governments can build it, and governments can pay for private companies to do it, but private companies simply lack the ability to independently build high speed rail networks. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Sep 21 21:00:06 2019, in response to Re: Inside Amtrak’s Long-Distance Trains, posted by Nilet on Sat Sep 21 13:57:27 2019. You put a hole in the trolls ultra right wing balloon...it has a slow leak now. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Sep 22 11:59:38 2019, in response to Inside Amtrak’s Dying Long-Distance Trains, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Sep 20 14:47:21 2019. I saw this a bit ago and it didn't make sense to me. I see the amount of people that stand on that platform for that exact train in Birmingham, especially on the holiday, and I don't see it.Meridian, Miss. seems to have done a really nice job with their terminal too. |
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