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[PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019

The approach to the Hunterspoint Ave station. The LIRR Arch St shops would be to the left. (April 1985)
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The roof of the municipal parking garage made for some spectacular photography. The garage is no more, sold to developers. (March 2001)
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Photographed from the Queensboro Plaza station platform. The Twin Towers beckons. (November 1984)
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Entering Queensboro Plaza. (March 2001)
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Back to the garage roof top. Here's the Queensboro Plaza station. (March 2001)
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Entering 33rd-Rawson St station. (April 1985)
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Photographed from the 40th-Lowery St. station. Red meets white. (April 1985)
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Photographed from the 52nd-Lincoln St station. (April 1985)
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June 1995
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Shea Stadium !! (June 1998)
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View from the Grand Central Parkway. (September 1985)
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Brrrr!!!....A real cool shot on the Dyre Ave line. R-142A's in test service. (February 2000)
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East 180th St shops and yard. (March 2000)
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That's enough excitement for today. Thanks in advance.


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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 25 14:03:57 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.




Bill: The were in my humble opinion the best damn subway cars ever built. That is a great collection of photographs. The last one in particular was taken from a train just south of the East 180th Street Shops. This was a favorite location to photograph the line up of equipment in the yard. Many pictures have been taken at this same site over the years. One could write a history of the IRT from the picture alone.


Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 25 14:12:08 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Birds...

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 25 15:16:43 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Is now a desktop photo

ROARING

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 15:49:46 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 25 14:03:57 2019.

The were in my humble opinion the best damn subway cars ever built.

However the graffiti alkaline wash gave them some serious rust issues.

That is a great collection of photographs. The last one in particular was taken from a train just south of the East 180th Street Shops.

Thanks, that photo was taken from the south end of the southbound East 180 St platform.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by South FERRY on Sun Aug 25 16:46:59 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

THANK YUO UNCA BILLY NEWKIRK!!!!1!!!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 25 17:29:24 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

He shoots, he scores!

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 25 17:50:14 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

EXCELLENT PHOTOS
ENJOYED THEM ALL

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 18:28:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 25 17:50:14 2019.

EXCELLENT PHOTOS
ENJOYED THEM ALL


Ya gotta luv Redbids and their RFW's !

Bill Newkirk

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 25 18:42:25 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 18:28:58 2019.

Not to mention their front route AND destination signs!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by R33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 25 18:50:53 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Awesome photos!!!!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Aug 25 20:57:41 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Love these shots.

Is the June 1995 photo showing a temporary platform? It doesn't look like Court Square at all.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Express Rider on Sun Aug 25 21:33:57 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Excellent photos!
Thank you for sharing them.
Really enjoyed all!!

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 25 21:38:49 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Thanks for attacking.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 25 21:43:50 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 18:28:58 2019.

here is one of my videos of them in 2000



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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Aug 25 21:50:22 2019, in response to [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Aug 25 13:35:19 2019.

Absolutely awesome, all around!! Thanks!

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 22:48:46 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sun Aug 25 21:43:50 2019.

Nice. Thanks for sharing! I noticed not a single timer from Main St to before Rawson St. Those redbirds could really fly on that stretch. Too bad thats no longer the case.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 26 00:49:00 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 22:48:46 2019.

They spent a ton of money on CBTC, they bought all-new trains, and they still can't match the speed of a grody old redbird in 2000. :(

...and apparently, they also can't replace a few switches without shutting down the entire west side IRT for two weekends, even though they apparently managed it just fine in 1990.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 26 01:48:52 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 26 00:49:00 2019.

I remember when the new signaling was being installed on the west side IRT in preparation for the major Feb 1959 service changes and the only service change I recall was that after 900PM, the Bway Exp to Bkln became a Bway lcl and Xed over to the middle tks at Chambers St because the switches at 96 St were out of service overnight.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 26 06:25:35 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Aug 25 20:57:41 2019.

Love these shots.

Is the June 1995 photo showing a temporary platform? It doesn't look like Court Square at all.


Thanks, yes this was at the time there was some work being done to the concrete viaduct, so one local track was taken out at a time.

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 26 09:03:23 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by GojiMet86 on Sun Aug 25 20:57:41 2019.

Thats the 52nd St Lincoln Ave sta. The local track (and express service) was out of service due to QB viaduct reconstruction. Temporary platform extentions were built from Rawson St to 52nd St. making it essentially a 2 track line between QBP & Woodside.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Q4 on Mon Aug 26 09:11:45 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 25 15:16:43 2019.

Same here.

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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Aug 26 09:53:22 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 26 00:49:00 2019.

Very true. Also consider when the redbirds were retrofitted with A/C, that added appx 10,000lbs. to their weight. AFAIK, there were no modifications to their traction motors, still running 100hp per axle from the factory, and they still ran like rabbits.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by murray1575 on Mon Aug 26 11:09:12 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Aug 25 22:48:46 2019.

After GOH it seemed to me that the redbird ML cars got a better overhaul from MK than the WF cars (CI shop rebuild) did. They accelerated better and their dynamic brakes were much better. Plus they had inverter lighting systems so that the lights didn't blink out going over gaps in the third rail. Unfortunately rust got to almost all of them.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 26 15:12:25 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by murray1575 on Mon Aug 26 11:09:12 2019.

The R42/44's that were sent out for GOH were also much better than the ones GOH'ed in house.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 26 15:36:36 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 26 15:12:25 2019.

The R42/44's that were sent out for GOH were also much better than the ones GOH'ed in house.

M&K did the NYCT R-44's, are you referring to the S.I. R-44's ?

Bill Newkirk


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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 26 17:20:57 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 26 15:36:36 2019.

About half of the NYCT R44's were done in house also. 5343 was the first one.

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Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 26 17:25:09 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Attack Of The Redbirds !!!!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Aug 26 17:20:57 2019.

5343 to 5479 were done in house.

5202 to 5342 were done by M/K.

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