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Posted by baltimorerail on Tue Aug 13 20:33:59 2019 Why is there a platform between the express tracks on the 59th platform on the 8th avenue line?Why is it not used? |
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Posted by andy on Tue Aug 13 21:10:56 2019, in response to 50 8th ave station, posted by baltimorerail on Tue Aug 13 20:33:59 2019. From www.nycsubway.org:"The center island was originally used for unloading of passengers and is no longer used due to difficulty in opening doors on both sides of the train, and to eliminate the resulting confusion of which platform is for what service." Link to full page: https://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/IND_8th_Avenue_Line |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Aug 14 05:06:22 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by andy on Tue Aug 13 21:10:56 2019. Linked 8th Av Line |
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Posted by The silence on Wed Aug 14 07:01:00 2019, in response to 50 8th ave station, posted by baltimorerail on Tue Aug 13 20:33:59 2019. It’s called the “Spanish Solution”Passengers board from one platform and get off via the other as a method of reducing crowding. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Aug 14 07:09:22 2019, in response to 50 8th ave station, posted by baltimorerail on Tue Aug 13 20:33:59 2019. Back when the R9's ran on the A and D it was easy for a platform conductor to open the doors on the center platform from outside the train while the train's conductor opened the doors on the other side, but it was much more difficult with newer cars, so they stopped using the platform. Part of the center platform is now used as a transfer corridor between the north and southbound #1 line. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 14 11:24:18 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by VictorM on Wed Aug 14 07:09:22 2019. Newer cars with full width cabs can once again use this feture if they wantred. Open the center platform first, let the geese exit, open the right platform and let peeps on. Close the center close the Right aand off we go!ROART |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 14 11:38:19 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Aug 14 11:24:18 2019. Still time consuming. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 14 16:59:11 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 14 11:38:19 2019. The platform was used only during rush hours and rush hour dwell times are longer than off peak anyhow. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 14 19:07:17 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by randyo on Wed Aug 14 16:59:11 2019. But they used platform conductors so opening and closing the doors on both sides added little time. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 14 19:17:52 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 14 19:07:17 2019. Wasn't that back when 10 car IND train got 2 conductors ? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 14 20:10:38 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by Joe V on Wed Aug 14 19:17:52 2019. 11 cars had two conductors and those were only on the E and F and not the A and D. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 15 16:47:56 2019, in response to Re: 50 8th ave station, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 14 20:10:38 2019. A and D has 2 C/Rs with 10 car trains. I’m not sure of the exact chronology of the opening of the center platform, but I don’t believe it was used until the elimination of the 2nd C/R which was circa 1956. What I do know is that at the C/R’s position on the center platform, an emergency button connected to then59 St tower was installed which was energized by insertion of a special key obtained from the T/D’s office on the center platform. In the event that a passenger were to be caught in a door, the platform C/R would press the button and it would drive the stop arm up on the leaving home signal tripping the train. The S/B button would affect the lvg signal on the S/B exp tk and the N/B button would affect the lvg signal on the N/B exp tk. The platform was open only to trains in the peak direction of traffic, S/B in the AM rush and N/B in the PM rush. The set up worked OK with any cars equipped with caps and triggers but proved to be problematic when cars with in cab door controls were introduced so the use of the center platform was discontinued. With cars up to the R-42s, not only did the C/R have to change sides but also change cars resulting in increased dwell time. Now, however, with transverse cabs, the C/R can remain in the same cab so that if desired, the use of the center platform could be resumed since the resulting dwell time increase would be insignificant as compared with the older equipment. |
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