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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon May 20 13:53:32 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:52:40 2019. WOW! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 15:01:35 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Joe V on Mon May 20 12:42:19 2019. Just a raw cut of the pillars of the el and they left them there like that.They removed them later since the rest of the pillars were below ground. That's how els were demolished for years. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 20 16:15:17 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon May 20 13:45:01 2019. Note that the 2 Av el tk on the IRT side seems to have subway type 3rd rail installed meaning that the photo was taken sometime after 1942 when the 2 Av el ceased all operations. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon May 20 18:04:29 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:52:40 2019. Yep! |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon May 20 18:40:07 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:39:50 2019. Of course that area has been much more built up since.I've noted before in a rebuild I would do it where after Navy Street such would go underground and connection to the Montague Street line, in this case potentially allowing for a new, full-time (W) train from Myrtle to Astoria. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 21 10:54:22 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:39:50 2019. Good picture of an awful situation.Thank You. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 21 12:46:11 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:39:50 2019. Great picture! Some reminders of the El are still visible with the low height & creosote stained street lights. |
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Posted by Dan on Tue May 21 12:55:38 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:39:50 2019. Lovely block. You could buy a sofa at Mullins Furniture, have a burger and a coke, and make a 10-cent phone call at a phone booth! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 21 13:18:29 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 21 12:46:11 2019. The stubs of the el columns are still there. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 21 13:18:29 2019. Show me where. 
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 21 15:38:02 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 15:01:35 2019. The pillar foundations for the 6th Ave el were not extracted until the 1990's. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 21 18:34:17 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019. Come on now..You KNOW those aren't stumps left over. 😄 |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 21:59:56 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 21 15:38:02 2019. Maybe 6th Ave was the exception. 
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 21 22:29:14 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Q4 on Mon May 20 12:14:11 2019. couldn't agree with you more. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 21 22:31:22 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by SLRT on Mon May 20 05:22:01 2019. re: the replacement buses would be nicer, run more frequently, and generally be a better servicewho was being kidded here? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 22 02:54:27 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 21 15:38:02 2019. Yep- I read the NY Times article from 1992 that mentioned they were I the process of being removed during the then-current reconstruction of 6th Avenue. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed May 22 02:54:44 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 21 15:38:02 2019. Yep- I read the NY Times article from 1992 that mentioned they were I the process of being removed during the then-current reconstruction of 6th Avenue. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed May 22 09:45:52 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 21:59:56 2019. Bill, the Harris Structural Steel removed the 6th Ave el pillars to just below street level. Actual structural demolition began on Jan 10th, 1939 and finished on/about April 14th of that year. LaGuardia and Company wanted it gone ASAP. Some of the el pillar bases were incorporated into the new 6th Ave IND subway. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 22 10:36:38 2019, in response to [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon May 20 11:39:50 2019. My father lived in the building on the right (second floor) during the summer of 1972. I was living with my mother in Urbana, IL at that time, but I spent the summer in Brooklyn with my grandmother. On 2 occasions that summer, my grandmother had to travel to her native North Carolina. Once in June when her older brother fell ill. He subsequently died, and she returned in July for his services. Both of those times, I stayed with my father. I'm guessing I would have had a good view of the el if it had still been there, but alas it was not. Still, got to see a ton of buses. I would say the headways were at least 5 minutes on midday weekdays, during the peak, even smaller. The very last time I saw an Old Look in NYC was on the B54 during one of those times. (There is a picture of one at Jay & Myrtle somewhere, maybe at nycsuwab.org or elsewhere). |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 10:57:34 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Elkeeper on Wed May 22 09:45:52 2019. Bill, the Harris Structural Steel removed the 6th Ave el pillars to just below street level. Actual structural demolition began on Jan 10th, 1939 and finished on/about April 14th of that year. LaGuardia and Company wanted it gone ASAP. Some of the el pillar bases were incorporated into the new 6th Ave IND subway.Thank you. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 11:06:41 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 22 10:36:38 2019. 
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Posted by randyo on Wed May 22 14:05:31 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019. I think the poster was referring only to that specific photo. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 22 15:39:57 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 11:06:41 2019. Oh, so they left the base of the stairways as piles of rubble? Yeah, that and the pillar bases were major improvements to the neighborhood.Thanks for sharing these! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed May 22 15:49:01 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 10:57:34 2019. Bill, I said on or about April 14th, 1939 because there was still one staircase at 33 Street that partially remained around that time. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed May 22 17:00:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019. Not there today, but in the original posted picture. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 03:06:05 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Elkeeper on Wed May 22 15:49:01 2019. Bill, I said on or about April 14th, 1939 because there was still one staircase at 33 Street that partially remained around that time.Was that staircase connected to anything or standing alone ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu May 23 03:47:02 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 11:06:41 2019. Sad to see it standing there, dead and awaiting destruction. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu May 23 05:56:42 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 11:06:41 2019. Glad that I can remember this view, and was told about the Myrtle Ave. el, a couple of years before closure so I could travel on the el, ride and photograph the Q's. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu May 23 05:57:30 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed May 22 11:06:41 2019. PS - Thanks as always for posting and sharing your photos! :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 23 09:15:30 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by andy on Fri May 17 14:08:51 2019. I think it's the only place where the doors open across the platform between the BMT/IND and IRT |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 23 10:02:17 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu May 23 09:15:30 2019. Yep. QBP is the only station in the system where there is a cross platform transfer between the IRT & BMT on two levels. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 10:07:14 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 23 10:02:17 2019. There was a period where the Dyre Av Branch was run with 2nd Av el cars. I don't what the transfer situation was like at E180th, but the Dyre Av trains I believe were run by IND crews, since the IND was supposed to get the East Bronx extension off the Concourse line. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu May 23 10:11:06 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 10:07:14 2019. There was a period where the Dyre Av Branch was run with 2nd Av el cars. I don't what the transfer situation was like at E180th, Until 1957 they used the old NYW&B station. After that they used East 180th Street as they still do. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu May 23 10:11:14 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 10:07:14 2019. There was a period where the Dyre Av Branch was run with 2nd Av el cars. I don't what the transfer situation was like at E180th, Until 1957 they used the old NYW&B station. After that they used East 180th Street as they still do. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu May 23 11:52:28 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019. Basically the same area but now improved with Metrotech.No else pillars to be found..no stumps. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 12:01:31 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Edwards! on Thu May 23 11:52:28 2019. It is impossible to tell there was an el there. Most people walking around there would not know. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu May 23 12:24:50 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 12:01:31 2019. Yup.Nobody would know unless told, and from the looks of things, wouldn't believe it due to the drastic changes. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 23 13:26:33 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 10:07:14 2019. True, they were run by IND crews but was known as an IRT division line extention.IIRC The Flushing Line was on the BMT radio frequency, long after the seperation of the Flushing & Astoria lines, as in Flushing to the IRT & Astoria to the BMT. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu May 23 15:49:24 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019. Those two T-shaped things covered with ivy or something look as though they might have been el columns in a previous life. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 23 15:52:40 2019, in response to Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu May 23 13:26:33 2019. It was officially an IND Division line but for some reason the Hagstrom maps showed it as an IRT line. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 15:59:33 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu May 23 15:49:24 2019. Compare the two photos. I think those stubs were removed decades ago. 
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 16:16:49 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 15:59:33 2019. Actually 4 Ivy things with bases, then some more down the block. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 23 16:18:58 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 15:59:33 2019. I think the Ivy things are closer together than the el pillars were. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu May 23 17:43:47 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 15:59:33 2019. If you don't get the tap root, they come back. But seriously, thanks for the original image-- that is one for New York's Changing Scene. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu May 23 17:59:36 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 15:59:33 2019. I used to work at 12 MetroTech, right across Jay Street from the main MetroTech campus. It really was a nice place to have lunch or just walk around. There was a collegiate feel to the place. Hard to believe it was once a hardscrabble Brooklyn neighborhood. Its much improved now. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu May 23 21:01:23 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Edwards! on Thu May 23 12:24:50 2019. Same for telling people in the Cadman Park area about the Sands St. complex at the same location, or people on the street near City Hall about the Park Row terminal located at the entrance to the bridge. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 24 02:46:04 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 21 14:51:58 2019. The area looks nothing like when the El stood there. I've personally been along 3rd Avenue (Bronx) and 168th/Jamaica, and even all these years later, the ghosts of those Els remain there. At 168th, not only is there the building that housed the tower, but at least as of 2007, there was still an old-style lamp above the doorway that served the footbridge between the station and the tower. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 24 02:48:28 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu May 23 15:59:33 2019. I was personally right there last October, and I walked on Myrtle, from Jay to Flatbush. Closely as I looked (and I looked closely), even at manhole covers, I could find no remnants whatsoever of the El. Nothing. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 24 12:37:13 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 24 02:48:28 2019. Don’t forget all of Myrtle from Flatbush to Jay was replaced by a pedestrian mall. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 24 16:04:50 2019, in response to Re: [PHOTO] Re: Elevated Station Question, posted by Express Rider on Thu May 23 21:01:23 2019. Yup.Sand street has a small plaque within the edge of the park telling everyone about the massive elevated train station. |
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