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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 15 15:31:44 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Mar 15 10:15:32 2019. US currency is no longer backed by precious metals, so there are no longer any silver certificates or “Ag bills.” |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Mar 15 17:16:15 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 15 15:31:44 2019. Boo. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Fri Mar 15 22:48:19 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 15 13:17:26 2019. You run a grocery store?? Thought you were an electrical contractor?? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 16 10:16:03 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Steamdriven on Fri Mar 15 22:48:19 2019. You are an electrical contractor?Then whatcha need stamps for. Cut out the phaght and give the stamps to the kneady. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 16 10:17:02 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 15 15:31:44 2019. Yup... Much better if we were on Galleons and Sickles.ROARING |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 16 10:19:43 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 15 10:27:14 2019. Right we are not a church. We have a church, and some of our property is exempt (the religious buildings) but our land is not, we pay the same property taxes as the farmer next door. And that is fair.Churches do pay sales taxes in ND. Go figure. ROAR |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Mar 16 12:16:08 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by 3-9 on Wed Mar 13 22:19:43 2019. That's stupid, you'd be handing him millions of dollars as a "punishment".Eminent domain, by law, requires the government to pay the property owner fair market value on whatever the government is taking. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Mar 16 12:23:05 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by The Silence on Sat Mar 16 12:16:08 2019. that could actually be fun , pretty sure Trump has his properties far undervaluated for tax purposes, it would open some of his tax scams |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Mar 16 14:57:17 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Mar 16 12:23:05 2019. doesn't work that way. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 15:14:27 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by The Silence on Sat Mar 16 14:57:17 2019. PWN3D! |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Mar 16 16:27:53 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Mar 15 13:17:26 2019. ancient history, but the fine print was something to read while in line at the checkout |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 16 16:32:19 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 16 10:19:43 2019. Intersting. AFAIK, all non profits both religious and non religious are exempt from sales taxes in NY. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 16:32:26 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Mar 16 16:27:53 2019. And you were obviously not talking about the present as they don't make "food stamps" anymore. They use debit cards now. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Mar 16 16:44:10 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 16 16:32:26 2019. yes, I am au courant des affairesIt is my belief that the verbiage about farm subsidy was partially true, but also an attempt to get the GOP hard liners to support the program. There were counties in the 70s which opted instead for "commodity food" which meant the recipient each month collected lowest end canned goods, cheese, cereal, peanut butter, clearly commercial products but USDA lebeling. as to the electronic replacements, maybe more cost effective,but also some profit for the very largest of the bank crooks. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 16 16:56:33 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by randyo on Sat Mar 16 16:32:19 2019. Si. This is so, so I was surprised when I had to collect taxes from churches when they purchased altar wines from the Abbey. I mean, I knew that the monks were not tax exempt, but I did not know that of the churches too.ROAR |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 16 17:38:57 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 16 10:19:43 2019. For when you sell indulgences. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Mar 16 18:05:50 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 16 17:38:57 2019. For that, there would have to be a market. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 00:48:16 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Mar 15 10:16:10 2019. But it's not the only thing the federal govt is or should be responsible for.MEOWING |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 02:17:17 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 17 00:48:16 2019. What else is in the Constitution? Regulating interstate commerce does not mean controlling it via thousands of pages of draconian burdensome micromanagement as it does now, nor get involved in intrastate affairs; and this is a power given to Congress and not the executive branch (all the several "departments" e.g. agriculture are executive branch departments). |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 17 12:03:28 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by italianstallion on Sat Mar 16 17:38:57 2019. You have a problem with that!To the RACK with you. We will burn you at the stake! Such Hearasay. ROARING |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:49:00 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 17 12:03:28 2019. Hearasay.That's an interesting ambiguity. Was it deliberate? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Mar 17 13:23:54 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 17 02:17:17 2019. You give me a laugh every day. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 17 16:27:54 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 17 12:49:00 2019. yes. : ) |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 17 18:36:22 2019, in response to no money for hudson tubes, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Mar 13 00:38:41 2019. Feds's deal portal bridge replacement gateway tunnel, another blow |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 17 18:40:56 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 17 18:36:22 2019. Sorry, this is already being discussed ,here. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Mar 17 23:24:16 2019, in response to no money for hudson tubes, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Mar 13 00:38:41 2019. What percentage of Portal Bridge and North River tunnels use is by Amtrak and what percentage by NJT? Repair costs should be divided proportionately. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Mon Mar 18 07:10:29 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by VictorM on Sun Mar 17 23:24:16 2019. Doesn't matter. Amtrak owns all of this, therefore Amtrak is responsible for the upkeep & replacement of worn out infrastructure. NJT is a tenant & has no obligation to invest in something they don't own, nor should they. |
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Posted by VictorM on Mon Mar 18 11:06:33 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by kp5308 on Mon Mar 18 07:10:29 2019. But most of the wear and tear on the infrastructure west of NYP is probably caused by NJT. Even if Amtrak does the entire repair and capital construction itself, New Jersey (and possibly New York) should give them the money for their share. The question is where is the money coming from - Amtrak sure doesn't have it. The whole NYP operation is primarily a commuter operation - NJT and LIRR. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 18 16:16:32 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by VictorM on Mon Mar 18 11:06:33 2019. Amtrak can indirectly get a share from NJT by upping their rent. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 18 16:16:33 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by VictorM on Mon Mar 18 11:06:33 2019. Amtrak can indirectly get a share from NJT by upping their rent. |
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Posted by LA Scott on Mon Mar 18 17:00:52 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by kp5308 on Mon Mar 18 07:10:29 2019. It all depends on how the lease/operating agreement is written.Many businesses have triple net leases, where the tenant pays for property taxes, insurance, and maintenance. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Mar 18 18:51:43 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by VictorM on Sun Mar 17 23:24:16 2019. No. It is AMMTK property and they should make the repairs 100% on their dime.Then they will raise the access fees and rents to NJT to cover their expenses. AMTK gets to pay all at once, NJT gets to pay on a per trip basis over the next 50 years. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Mar 18 18:53:01 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by italianstallion on Mon Mar 18 16:16:32 2019. That is how it is done. AMTK makes the repairs, others pay increased operating fees.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Mar 18 18:55:05 2019, in response to Re: no money for hudson tubes, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Mar 18 18:53:01 2019. Of course doing it this way leaves NJT/LIRR at the mercy of whatever fees AMTK sets.If they make it a joint project then perhaps they can even negotiate reduced operating fees and get a number of contracted slots as well.. ROAR |
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