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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Dec 6 23:28:37 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 03:56:05 2018. If changing your clothes at Journal Square isn't illegal, it should be. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 6 23:33:52 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Dec 6 23:28:37 2018. HA! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Dec 7 04:30:27 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Joe V on Thu Dec 6 11:13:20 2018. Just before 9/11 they had actually expanded to running the 4 route system 7 days a week, with a 4 car shuttle to WTC.Now weekend ridership is higher than it was then, yet they still stick to sardine can weekend 33st trains. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 7 17:29:00 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Dec 6 21:18:26 2018. That would risk blowing the 12/31 PTC deadline. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 7 19:56:13 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 7 17:29:00 2018. My point is they should have done the Sandy work by now. |
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Posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 8 02:39:59 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 7 19:56:13 2018. No, PTC work is/was more important as missing the deadline could have have shirt the system down or resulting enormous fines. Plus, the work that will be done won’t cause the undoing of PTC work. |
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Posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 8 02:43:33 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Dec 6 08:56:59 2018. What two track? The ones on the north side of the PATH right of way between Journal Square and the portal? They do not have overhead wires. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 8 12:21:00 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Dec 6 08:56:59 2018. Towers, but the wires are gone IIRC.Back in the 1980s, the PATH tracks still had wires going into Journal Square too. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 8 12:21:08 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 8 02:43:33 2018. No, but they used to, back in the days when it was shared track with the PRR to/from Exchange Place Terminal. Those tracks were shared with MP54s, Baldwin Sharknoses and even lots of K4s 4-6-2s. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 8 12:21:53 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 8 02:39:59 2018. Everyone just loves government intrusion, don't they? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 8 13:06:44 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Dec 7 19:56:13 2018. The TA hasn't doesn't all Sandy work. Why expect PATH to ? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Dec 8 18:02:01 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 8 13:06:44 2018. The TA is bigger, more discombobulated, and has more people to move through tighter corridors with fewer alternative transportation options.Also, asbestos. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 8 18:14:59 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Strike_Mark on Sat Dec 8 02:39:59 2018. No, actually they should have gotten their lobbyists to have them exempted from FRA as they are like the subway, a closed system, not part of the national freight network. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 8 19:20:20 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Joe V on Sat Dec 8 13:06:44 2018. PATH has a much smaller railroad. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Dec 8 22:25:31 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Thu Dec 6 09:08:00 2018. They likely also need extra crews if they tried a NWK-33rd service on weekends and as noted cutting the trains. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 9 12:46:55 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 8 18:14:59 2018. PATH likes to spend a lot of capital money and have excuses to cut service. FRA regs fit their goals very well. |
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Posted by Chicago44 on Sun Dec 9 13:18:30 2018, in response to PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Allan on Wed Dec 5 19:20:48 2018. What should have been done was to extend the JSQ/33rd St train to Newark on weekends bypassing Hoboken except overnight hours, run a Hoboken to 33rd St train & a JSQ/Exchange Place train. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 9 14:37:27 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Chicago44 on Sun Dec 9 13:18:30 2018. They don't want to go to NWK any more often than every 20 minutes.The uptown line needs more than that. |
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Posted by lirr42 on Sun Dec 9 18:49:44 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Joe V on Wed Dec 5 21:18:55 2018. There is probably a way they could do it...have a booth set up inside the fare control area...you go through the turnstiles as usual, then obtain a two part voucher for the ferry and to get back into the system at EXP, then you immediately exit fare control and walk to the ferry. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 9 19:10:42 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by lirr42 on Sun Dec 9 18:49:44 2018. That's how they handled the 2-trip MC they were handing out at WTC, just before you went out through the turnstiles. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Dec 9 19:53:24 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Joe V on Sun Dec 9 19:10:42 2018. In the case of the 2-trip Metro-Cards - a PATH rider had to leave the PATH WTC terminal to obtain such a 2-trip Metro-Card to take the NYC subway to points further north, such as 34th Street. That was what was being replaced by the 2-trip Metro-Card. (Of course a person "could go anywhere" with the free cards until Sunday midnight with a return trip. But how many would do that.)The up coming free ferry to/from New Jersey simply allows PATH riders a trip to/from the World Trade Center area to or from the PATH trains in New Jersey. The free ferry replaces the train. Of course, a person "could" simply take a free ferry ride to and from New Jersey for the day. What I find interesting is that a PATH train rider in NYC around the World Trade Center area from the hours of 11:30 to 7am has to find a way to the PATH trains at Christopher Street, or the PATH stops on Sixth Avenue in order to get home to New Jersey. In any case, the PATH rider simply just pays their fares in New Jersey. There is no need to set up a separate fare booth at the WTC, just simply place direction signage to/from the ferry service. There might be a need to place a couple of PATH staff to answer questions, but not a need for a major operation. Mike |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Dec 10 09:04:29 2018, in response to Re: PATH's WTC station to close for 45 weekends, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Dec 8 22:25:31 2018. Agreed. |
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