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[PHOTO] What Station Is this ? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018 I'm thinking the abandoned Myrtle Ave station, just north of DeKalb Ave, 
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 13:52:51 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. The old former entrance to Myrtle/Flatbush Aves station for trains heading over the MannyB to the BMT Broadway subway? |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jul 4 14:01:05 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 13:52:51 2018. That's my thought too. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 14:05:44 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jul 4 14:01:05 2018. From the wording on that old sign, the location is an old station or passageway in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 14:16:59 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 14:05:44 2018. From the wording on that old sign, the location is an old station or passageway in Brooklyn.tunnelrat has all the answers. He'll chime in after he finishes his kielbasa and pirogis . Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 4 15:14:57 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 13:52:51 2018. From the way the station has been described to me by the old timers, I suspect that it is the Manhattan bound entrance to the Myrtle Av (Gold ST) station. The S/B side was completely obliterated when the Dekalb/Gold area was realigned circa 1960 and in any case the sign indicates that it is heading towards Manhattan and Queens. Strangely, although the Manhattan bound platform and exit is still there for use as an emergency exit I never set foot on that platform, but I was on the S/B platform in 1956 since my father mistakenly thought that we could transfer to the Myrtle Av el there. Since there is no Xover between the S/B and N/B platform there, we had to go south to Dekalb to get a N/B train back to Canal St where we changed for the Jamaica line to Bway/Myrt. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 15:33:50 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by randyo on Wed Jul 4 15:14:57 2018. 
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Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 15:47:28 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by randyo on Wed Jul 4 15:14:57 2018. Randy, how much of the Manhattan-bound station area still remains, besides the platform? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 4 16:03:00 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 15:47:28 2018. The whole platform is Still intact. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 4 16:03:01 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 15:47:28 2018. The whole platform is Still intact. |
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Posted by Numbersix on Wed Jul 4 16:41:23 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. Torchwood? |
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Posted by Bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jul 4 18:48:41 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. Atlantic Avenue. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 20:16:22 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bklynsubwaybob on Wed Jul 4 18:48:41 2018. Atlantic Avenue.Atlantic Ave ? Looks like it's been OOS for years. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jul 4 21:46:24 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. I,m keeping it a secret. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 5 02:09:02 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 4 16:03:01 2018. Aside from the fact that Masstransitscope still occupies much of the space, of course. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jul 5 05:55:52 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by tunnelrat on Wed Jul 4 21:46:24 2018. I,m keeping it a secret.Which means even you're stumped too. :) BillNewkirk |
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Posted by K. Trout on Thu Jul 5 12:49:54 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 4 16:03:01 2018. LTVSquad reports that the mezzanine was destroyed due to building construction, though. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jul 5 13:04:08 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. Definitely Myrtle. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jul 5 13:05:25 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 4 14:05:44 2018. The font of the sign is the same as the "MYRTLE AVENUE" font on the station walls. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jul 5 14:09:45 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by K. Trout on Thu Jul 5 12:49:54 2018. From what I remember of the S/B side when I was there, there was really no true mezzanine just a small fare control area which is why we couldn’t cross from the S/B to the N/B platform. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:05:23 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 14:16:59 2018. If he has been around as long as others claim he has been, Tunnelrat, may have even set the colored tiles in place before the station was opened. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:16:56 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 5 14:09:45 2018. though the platform was destroyed during the realightment, wouldn't this small upper fare control area have remained in place - tiles and all? could there possibly be ladder access to this area from track level?And aren't there supposed to be original station tiles still remaining intact on the wall of the former SB platform, and under how many layers of grime if cleaned away, you would still be able to see the colored tile bands and the Myrtle Ave. station name tablet. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jul 5 15:27:06 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:16:56 2018. According to this terrific website, the access to the mezzanine from the existing platform is walled off.http://www.guerrillaexploring.com/gesite/public_html/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=281:ges191-myrtle-av-platform-ny&catid=52:metro&Itemid=67 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 5 16:11:19 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:05:23 2018. He could not have set those tiles because he was driving the single el car #998 on the Broadway Ferry shuttle! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 18:46:08 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 5 16:11:19 2018. And I wonder if Mike Quill, as a kid was looking into the cab watching him operate. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jul 5 19:08:33 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 14:16:59 2018. He'll probably say 76th Street |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 19:19:38 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jul 5 15:27:06 2018. Thanks for the link. I did find this site, with it's excellent platform and ROW photos a few months back.The photos here (including the walled off stairway to the mezz.) are of the northbound platform. I was asking if anything remained of the Soutnbound mezzanine, whose former platform had been removed during the re-alignment reconstruction - My first sentence did not make that completely clear: re: "though the platform was destroyed during the realightment, wouldn't this small upper fare control area have remained in place - tiles and all?" If just the SB platform was destroyed, might the SB mezzanine still be intact, and like I wondered, maybe there is ladder access to it, from the current ROW constructed during the realightment? Also from my earlier post, I've been told that the original SB platform wall tiles are still in place (under layers of grime), with the colored tile bands, and the Myrtle Ave. name tablets - it would be great if sections of the former could be removed and installed in the mezzanine at Dekalb - much the same way the tiles and Eagles from the IRT Union Sq. abandoned local platform were removed and installed in the mezzanine there. ------------------------------------------------ The LTV Squad site (http://ltvsquad.com/2005/09/03/transi-scope/) also went to the NB platform and stated that another visit was made in 2010 and to quote: "the entire mezzanine was destroyed. It seems that a new building was built on top of this entrance, and a thick concrete wall was nstalled at the entrance from the platform." the 2005 LTV visit does show photos of the NB mezzanine, with (unfortunately) graffittee covered tiling, and what looks like pictures of girders from the recent construction. Also, a vent was built right in the middle of that "Enter This Side" sign in the original post's photo (unless there's another tiled sign like it up there as well) |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jul 5 19:21:09 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. I'm fascinated by the signage. Why does it say "via 7th Avenue and 60th Street" when that's only a small part of the line in Manhattan? Why doesn't it say Whitehall, Canal Street, etc, and especially Broadway when the bulk of the BMT goes up Broadway. And why does it have To Manhattan and To Queens separately when most subway signage would say To Manhattan and Queens? |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 19:21:46 2018, in response to [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Wed Jul 4 13:40:49 2018. Can anyone FIGURE out what the words are on the sign below "To Queens" I can see the words 'STREET' AND 'JAMAICA' but can't make out any of the others. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 19:25:45 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 19:21:46 2018. FIGURE shouldn't have been in Caps - hah, hah!I'd just left the caps lock button on from describing the sign. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 5 20:36:53 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 18:46:08 2018. if mike Quill had been breathing into the cab, it would have exploded from the air/alcohol mixture! |
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Posted by qveensboro_plaza on Fri Jul 6 09:21:20 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 19:21:46 2018. “Transfer at Canal Street for Center Street Subway to East New York, Jamaica and Canarsie”In other words, the Eastern Division. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 6 10:32:03 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 19:19:38 2018. That LTV Squad does amazing work. Wish they would update their site more often.They may very well be the first to get behind the Cinder Block Wall and solve the last great mystery of the subways. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 6 11:13:42 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 6 10:32:03 2018. I believe I had them down there about 15 0r so years ago. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 6 14:44:12 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 6 11:13:42 2018. Does the MTA really know what's behind the Wall? Like whether NASA knows what is actually at Area 51? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jul 6 16:47:01 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jul 5 19:21:09 2018. It does make mention of changing at Canal St for the centre St Line. As for Whitehall, you couldn't get to Whitehall directly from Myrtle (Gold St) since Myrtle only accessed the Manny B, not the tunnel. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jul 6 21:46:33 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Elkeeper on Thu Jul 5 20:36:53 2018. LOL!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jul 6 21:54:48 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by qveensboro_plaza on Fri Jul 6 09:21:20 2018. Thank you!I like the old signage with the original names - gives the routes character, and citing the destination terminals or branch lines (like to Bay Ridge for example [on other signs that is]), gives a mental map/ association for the geography of that part of the city the line serves - and also makes these routes sound like "real" railroads. The "7", the "4", and the "N", just doesn't do it for me. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Jul 6 21:57:51 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by K. Trout on Thu Jul 5 12:49:54 2018. I don't remember which site (maybe a webpage about the Masstransitcsope? nycsubway.org?) but somewhere I saw a couple of pictures of part of the NB mezzanine pre-graffitee/ and debris. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 8 00:28:11 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Fri Jul 6 21:54:48 2018. I agree. When I first became a T/D in 1970, In the space on the train register sheet marked for “line” I would write the old BMT line name instead of the letter like “Brighton Beach Express” instead of “D,” or "West End” instead pf “B” etc. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Mon Jul 9 17:22:31 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:16:56 2018. It's sort of possible to see what appears to be a tiled wall where the SB platform was. Usually requires the train to be stopped or moving very slowly to allow your eyes to adjust, and being on an NTT with bright lighting helps.On a related note, Myrtle Ave clearly had walls between the local and express tracks like all other 4 Av local stations; when passing by Masstransiscope tiles can be seen on the wall to the left side of the train. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Jul 10 01:13:08 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 8 00:28:11 2018. say "West End Express" and you can hear/ see the AB's maybe rounding a curve somewhere along New Utrecht Ave. |
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Posted by subfan on Wed Jul 11 13:06:17 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by K. Trout on Mon Jul 9 17:22:31 2018. I've never been able to see tiles where the S/B PLATFORM was - only on the curtain wall side. The location is right where the track splits, with one track diving down on the left - you can see tiles above the ramp that's heading down. The track on the right is where the original platform was, but I've never been able to see anything there.subfan |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 12 09:22:28 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by subfan on Wed Jul 11 13:06:17 2018. Thank you!Observations are always welcomed. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jul 12 09:25:55 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:16:56 2018. Were is the Tunnelrat when we need him? Steve did a great deal of exploration in this area. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jul 12 09:26:04 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 5 15:16:56 2018. Were is the Tunnelrat when we need him? Steve did a great deal of exploration in this area. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by subfan on Thu Jul 12 12:47:17 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ?, posted by Express Rider on Thu Jul 12 09:22:28 2018. My pleasure.subfan |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 13 11:29:25 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ? (WHERE IS TUNNELRAT)?, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Thu Jul 12 09:26:04 2018. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW STATIONS THAT I HAVEN`T EXPLORED.`NUFF SAID. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Jul 13 18:41:24 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ? (WHERE IS TUNNELRAT)?, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 13 11:29:25 2018. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW STATIONS THAT I HAVEN`T EXPLORED.`NUFF SAID. Steve: Didn't you tell me that you explored the loop tracks north of Dekalb Avenue? Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 13 21:34:50 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTO] What Station Is this ? (WHERE IS TUNNELRAT)?, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Fri Jul 13 18:41:24 2018. yes I did,but I never got into gold st. |
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