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erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months

Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018



Tel Aviv - Israel’s long-awaited high-speed rail between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem won’t open until September or October 2018, despite an official opening date at the end of the March, Israel Railways announced on Wednesday.

The rail line – which has been under construction for years – would halve the arduous, traffic-congested route to a speedy 28 minutes between the two cities. But Israel Railways has yet to receive the safety go-ahead for the project.

“Not all the regulatory approvals required for the operation of the line for commercial use of passengers…have yet to be received,” Israel Railways said in its filing to the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange on Wednesday morning. “Such operation is expected to be postponed by six months, subject to the receipt of all such approvals.”

As recent as January, Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz continued to claim that the train would open on schedule.

Gil Yaakov, the head of riders advocacy group “15 Minutes,” blasted the delay and said that the government was already not doing enough for mass transit users.

"The delay in the opening of the high-speed rail line obliges the Transportation Ministry to provide solutions for public transportation passengers who are stuck in traffic jams on the way to Jerusalem," said Yaakov.

“The insistence of Minister Yisrael Katz not to allocate a [special] public transportation lane [for buses] on the Jerusalem-Tel Aviv highway is puzzling,” Yaakov said, adding: “The travel times in public transportation in Jerusalem are long and do not encourage public transportation.”

The high-speed rail line is the first of its kind in Israel, with construction costs tallying some NIS 7 billion ($2 billion).

Earlier this week, Israel Railways said that test runs would begin on the line. Yet, construction is still ongoing and a Globes report from Sunday indicated that utility poles still hadn’t been placed on one of the train bridges.

The Ministry of Transportation did not have immediate comment as of press time.

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Posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:04:33 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

Dropped the J!

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed Feb 21 15:28:58 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

Israel Railways said in its filing to the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange

Israel Railways is a privately-owned company? They expect to make a profit on this service?

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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 21 17:10:10 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

It's 40 miles from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv. You don't need no "high-speed rail" to get there in 28 minutes.

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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 21 17:53:33 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

Israel finally knows what NYC type project delays feel like.

It will be a major time saver when it is up and running. It will be a sure fire popular service.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 22 23:49:17 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Feb 21 17:53:33 2018.

Stick to what you know. Israel knows full well what "NYC project delays feel like", the Jerusalem Light Rail suffered all sorts of delays before opening with little fanfare due to the amount of criticism that a grand opening would have garnered. The New Tel Aviv Central Bus Station took nearly 26 years to build. Terminal 3 at Ben Gurion Airport also opened way behind schedule. No one is actually surprised by this news.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 22 23:52:31 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by italianstallion on Wed Feb 21 17:10:10 2018.

Um, take a look at the geography between the two cities and you'll see why you need high speed rail. There are two natural routes out of Jerusalem to the west. Highway 1 sits in one of them and was recently expanded to three lanes in each direction for the entire length from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. The bus between the two cities is scheduled to take 55 minutes but the trip can take much longer if there is bad traffic, especially on the uphill to Jerusalem. The train uses the other route, taking a winding route through the mountains that was constructed by the Ottomans. This route carries few passengers and takes about 90 minutes to travel between the two cities, and now requires changing trains in Beit Shemesh. Trains are limited to less than 40 KPH for much of the trip between Beit Shemesh and Jerusalem due to the many curves along the way.

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Re: Jerusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months

Posted by transitbuff on Fri Feb 23 15:24:14 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

Terrorism prevention is also a factor in this delay.

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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Feb 23 15:43:56 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 22 23:49:17 2018.

At least you got a new bus station, look at the insane cost of the new PA Bus terminal.

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Posted by Italianstallion on Fri Feb 23 21:32:23 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 22 23:52:31 2018.

Thanks for the information.

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 24 10:06:00 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

Is there a reason that you did not spell out Jerusalem?

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Re: Jerusalem-Tel Aviv High-Speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 24 11:33:54 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 24 10:06:00 2018.

Probably a typo.

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Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 24 13:16:00 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 24 10:06:00 2018.

I cut and pasted the headline and didn't see I had missed the J until after I posted.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 24 13:42:44 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 24 13:16:00 2018.

Of course, the UN, the EU and others want the Js out of Jerusalem.

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Feb 24 18:21:35 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 24 10:06:00 2018.

I am surprised that little attention has been paid (so far) to the routing of this line in the Jerusalem area. As I understand it, the line goes outside the boundaries of the "Green Line" (internationally recognized borders of Israel) in some places. So any "two-state solution" will now have to modify those borders to keep the rail line within the borders of Israel, almost like the Gadsden Purchase was made to get the proposed route of the Southern Pacific within the boundaries of the U.S. Of course, such a "solution" becomes more and more unlikely every day anyway, but little attention has been paid to this rail line as a factor. It's an impressive achievement anyway.

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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Feb 24 18:40:26 2018, in response to erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dave on Wed Feb 21 10:03:55 2018.

How far is it from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 24 21:22:36 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Feb 24 18:40:26 2018.

40 miles

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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 24 21:22:36 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Feb 24 18:40:26 2018.

40 miles

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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Feb 24 22:14:27 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by italianstallion on Sat Feb 24 21:22:36 2018.

Ok. 40 miles in 28 mins should do great esp as I'd imagine there's a lot of traffic between the two cities.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Feb 25 00:29:10 2018, in response to Re: Jerusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by transitbuff on Fri Feb 23 15:24:14 2018.

Source? I've heard nothing of the sort.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Feb 25 00:32:52 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Feb 23 15:43:56 2018.

You call that new? The Tel Aviv CBS is a POS that I and others purposely avoid if we can. Both terminals are horrid but at least PABT isn't home to a bat cave that's now a declared nature preserve.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Feb 25 00:35:14 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Feb 24 18:21:35 2018.

I think some European companies got sued over this. It's only a few hundred meters of uninhabited land but apparently that matters a lot to some people.

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Re: Jerusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 25 12:32:13 2018, in response to Re: erusalem-Tel Aviv High-speed Rail Opening To Be Delayed Six Months, posted by ftgreeneg on Sat Feb 24 22:14:27 2018.

The increase in average speed to 85.7 mph would be welcome on any system.

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