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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 00:44:38 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 25 20:07:55 2017. ???Where? You always actually have to turn your head to the left to make sure there isn't a car directly next to you. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Dec 26 03:12:08 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Dec 22 20:35:17 2017. that narrow twisty strip of crap is reallly sscarry to us westerners.In contrast, it's probably one of the most fun highways to drive on in the NYC area. Designwise, it's not too far off early era Autobahns in Germany, and I've felt rather comfortable driving on it at 85-90 mph. Mind you, I drive a Mazda... |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Dec 26 06:44:26 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 25 13:53:08 2017. Exactly. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Dec 26 06:45:13 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 25 19:44:20 2017. Wrong. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Dec 26 06:45:23 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 25 20:07:55 2017. Agreed!! |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 07:36:08 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 00:44:38 2017. That is true. |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Tue Dec 26 07:48:11 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by randyo on Mon Dec 25 17:14:35 2017. Seeing a slice of your own car in the mirror is comforting, but it means you're missing a slice to the side, and that slice is often the one you need to see for a lane change. Mirrors are an aero drag, so they're just big enough and not more.You don't need to see your own car in the mirror, because if you're driving it, your car is most certainly there. Instead, adjust the side mirrors so that they view an area starting about a foot outside your car. U can test this out in a parking lot to get comfortable. If there's something 8 inches from your side, less than 2 feet wide and that sneaks up without showing otherwise, you're being tracked by a flying ninja assassin and are scr-wed anyway. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Dec 26 08:00:05 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 25 19:44:20 2017. Those are the "old" rules. The "new" ones are as others have said, wide side mirrors.That said, if you have either of: 1. Secondary blind spot mirrors, or automatic detection (that little yellow light that comes on when a car is in the blind spot) 2. No rear view (e.g. tall passengers/cargo in back, or a van) the old rules (see a tiny bit of the vehicle) are still the way to go. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 09:11:21 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Dec 26 08:00:05 2017. But if you have wide side mirrors, which I agree are very beneficial, shouldn't you still just see a tiny bit of your car to make sure your mirror isn't maladjusted? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 09:18:23 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 25 13:53:08 2017. My gauges are dark without headlights on. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 26 09:40:10 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 07:36:08 2017. I agree. I do the same thing. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 09:48:36 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 26 09:40:10 2017. One of the few things in driver ed taught that was of some use. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:30:12 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 00:44:38 2017. That is untrue, If you tilt your mirror out, you will actually see the car next to you, which you won’t if you see part of your car. Think about it for a second. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:30:27 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 07:36:08 2017. It is not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:31:01 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Dec 26 09:40:10 2017. I disagree. Stop doing that. Start adjusting your mirrors by checking for overlap between the wing mirrors and the central mirror. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Dec 26 10:31:52 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 25 20:07:55 2017. LION adjusts mirror to see who is next to himI have found that I can see the guy behind me in the rearview, and then before he is lost in that mirror, he is in the side mirror. You need to know EXACTLY who is hiding behind your B post at all times. It only takes a slight movement of your head to see everything that is behind you in the side view, much better than trying to turn around every time you want to change lanes. ROAR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:34:12 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 09:18:23 2017. Why do you assume that what’s true for you is true for anyone else when your car is much older than other cars on the road? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:52:21 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:31:01 2017. There are blind spots don't matter how you position your mirrors. You will just trade off one for another. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:53:35 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:30:27 2017. Yeh it is. You do not strike me as someone who is professionally driver-ed trained. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:56:39 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:34:12 2017. Why don't sop being a nit-picking pain in the ass and a pest. I have been driving for 40 years, and no accidents, nor moving violations. I know a thing or two more than you do.We were talking about driver in disk with headlights off unless you hi-jacked the conversation., and that applies to you as much as everyone else. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Dec 26 10:57:23 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Dec 25 15:37:33 2017. All true, but based on what I know about people and the frequency of accidents, I get the sense that this logic is not always flowing through the driver who needs to break, or else the driver is not fully aware of the situation. I am not good at spotting drivers to note if they are distracted. . .I'm only focused on vehicle and vehicle position/behavior while I'm driving, and while I will make moves that require drivers to break lightly to avert a collision, I don't think I can be as aggressive as most. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:09:37 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:52:21 2017. The method I use/advocate causes smaller and less consequential blind spots. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:11:30 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:53:35 2017. What is “professionally driver-ed trained?” Someone who took high school driver’s ed? I took that, and I’m sure more recently than you. But I used to adjust my mirrors like you until someone who I’m certain is a better driver than you taught me otherwise. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 11:13:28 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:30:12 2017. But then how do I know I don't accidentally have my mirror tilted too far out, so that I have a blind spot if a car is to my left and just behind me? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 11:15:31 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:11:30 2017. The only otherwise is more mirrors, like a van. If you have those fine, if not, you have blind spots and decided to disregard them. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:16:17 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:56:39 2017. Experience is no substitute for knowledge, and you have shown yourself to be devoid of the latter.I haven’t driven a car without auto-headlights since 2007, so I almost never turn the headlights on or off, but when I do turn them off, one way I notice them off (since it’s not a habit like it used to be), is that the instrument panel is unusually bright. This has been true in rented cars and borrowed cars also. So it’s quite clear that you were wrong about instrument panels being unreadable when the headlights are off. No wonder R2D2 thinks you’re bingbong. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 11:16:22 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 11:13:28 2017. Every vehicle has blind spots don't matter what you do. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:18:44 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 11:13:28 2017. You have to compare the views between your main mirror and the wing mirrors to ensure that from left to right, it portrays a complete picture. It would be a bad idea to adjust the mirrors in an empty parking lot or one filled with identical cars. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:20:20 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 11:15:31 2017. I haven’t disregarded them: My blind spots correspond to areas where I can see over my shoulder without turning my head. Exactly where mirrors are less needed. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Dec 26 11:20:54 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 10:30:12 2017. Does this method catch bicycles (always) too? If so I'm game. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 11:25:59 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:18:44 2017. Ah. My car isn't in a totally safe place when I am not driving it. So it is possible (and sometimes happens) that my mirrors have been readjusted in my absence. Since I don't want a mirror adjusting ritual each time I get into the car, I'd rather stick with a system that I know is OK. |
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Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD |
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Posted by Bzuck on Tue Dec 26 11:26:19 2017, in response to Amtrak Derailment in Washington, posted by Bob Andersen on Mon Dec 18 11:24:38 2017. If you wish to discuss how to drive a car on the highway please start a new thread in the off topic board. This thread was started to discuss the Amtrak derailment in Washington. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:26:32 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Dec 26 11:20:54 2017. There’s still a blind spot, but it doesn’t require turning your head. It hardly requires glancing; the blind spot monitor LED is completely redundant. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:29:28 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 11:25:59 2017. Except that it’s not OK. Think about how some newer cars have a blind spot monitor LED. If the mirrors are adjusted properly, such LED gives you no added information (personally, I wouldn’t fully trust a sensor anyway). |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 11:54:24 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 11:16:17 2017. Do you have any reading comprehension at all or are you just a snot ?I said we WERE tailing about headlights and tail lights in the first half hour after sunset TO BE SEEN, which has NOTHING to do with dashlights. I also said I have no dashlights when me headlights are off and can hardly see the dash when it is dark. I know my car - YOU DO NOT. No wonder I think you are as dense at R2D2. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 12:45:51 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 11:54:24 2017. Hey idiot, you clearly said “That means they cannot see their dashbaord gauges either.” Now you’re denying it? You said nothing about your own instrument panel until called on it.You might know your own car but you do not know others and in this case your car is not representative. |
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Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 12:46:46 2017, in response to Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD, posted by Bzuck on Tue Dec 26 11:26:19 2017. It’s clearly moved on. Start a new thread about the derailment if you want. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:11:30 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 12:45:51 2017. Stupid,We WERE also talking about headlight and tail lights, yet you cannot let go of this dashboard situation. I am now convinced you are incapable of focusing on that. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 26 13:13:19 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 10:53:35 2017. The AAA drivers safety course agrees with me and Spider-Pig. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 26 13:15:03 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by AlM on Tue Dec 26 09:11:21 2017. Why? As you adjust them, you see less and less of your car. Once you see none of your car, you can stop adjusting. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:19:39 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:11:30 2017. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP! And it was spurious at that.I see no need to focus on the headlight topic. It was an irrelevant aside anyway. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 26 13:20:03 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Steamdriven on Tue Dec 26 07:48:11 2017. Absolutely. AAA agrees. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:23:08 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:19:39 2017. Nothing about "spurious" that is true for some cars, but you were too dumb to understand it it still true. I see plenty Taurus's and old Hondas, Volvos, and Toyotas around.You see no need to probably because you drive around at dusk with your tail lights off. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:25:11 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 26 13:15:03 2017. You can do all that, and I want a view of the entire lane next to me, but still leave a blind spot. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:27:06 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:23:08 2017. Since you drive a wildly obsolete car, and I’ve pointed out my experiences from a variety of cars made in the last 20 years, I am going to assume I’m right unless I hear reliable testimony otherwise. You are not reliable.You have no evidence that it’s only “some cars.” And I see that you’ve now backslid; what ever happened to your claim that you never brought up instrument illumination? |
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Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 26 13:28:01 2017, in response to Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD, posted by Bzuck on Tue Dec 26 11:26:19 2017. What happened to this thread is what used to be called "thread drift". Its been an accepted practice here for a long time, at least since I discovered this place. Anyway, the moderator here don't seem to mind. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:28:13 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:25:11 2017. Why would you want that if you expect to be a safe driver? |
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Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:29:03 2017, in response to Re: Amtrak Derailment in Washington - STOP USING THIS THREAD, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 26 13:28:01 2017. It would be better if he moved the thread or at least this branch of it. I have seen it done. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:32:57 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:27:06 2017. I just told you I see plenty of cars over 20. There were still 200,000 such cars in NJ when they eliminated emission testing a year or so ago. Not a significant percentage, but still plenty of them. You are NO expert in telling us what specific cars over 20 have such illumination with headlights off. |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 26 13:35:34 2017, in response to Re: Train was going 80MPH in 30MPH zone, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 26 13:28:13 2017. So you don't want to see the lane next to and behind you in the mirror to you before you change lanes. Evidently, you drive like a mole. |
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