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[PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017 
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Dan on Sat Oct 14 09:26:47 2017, in response to [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017. Amazing how they used to rebuild the system in those days. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 10:02:31 2017, in response to [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017. Still waiting for this station's replacement... tick... tick... tick... |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Oct 14 10:07:23 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Dan on Sat Oct 14 09:26:47 2017. With no interruption in service! |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 14 10:57:14 2017, in response to [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017. Just imagine that still being there, rebuilt for cars like the R12 and later, but now with NTTs. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat Oct 14 14:21:12 2017, in response to [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars.chud1. :)..... |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 14 15:09:11 2017, in response to [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017. It’s interesting that the express station at 42/2 was built as a conventional single level 2 island platform station instead of a 2 level station like the ones on 3 Ave. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 14 15:16:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 14 10:57:14 2017. When the 1939 World's Fair closed on 10/27/1940, ridership on the remaining part of the 2nd Ave el, from Queens to Chatham Square plunged, except for rush hours. After 5/19/1941, all Mom-Sat service from about 9:30PM-12:30AM and all Sunday service ended. Although construction supplies were limited by WWII, LaGuardia's developer friends finally persuaded him and the City to shut it down. Their propaganda was that the steel from the el would be better served for the War effort. They got their wish on 6/13/1942, when it closed down. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 16:36:42 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 14 15:16:28 2017. "...the steel from the el would be better served for the War effort."Propaganda indeed. There was no other source of steel? I have never been a fan of sacrificing the long term in pursuit of the short term, and this is an example of horrible myopia. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 14 18:56:45 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Dan on Sat Oct 14 09:26:47 2017. Now they shut the Jamaica el down on weekends so they can park a work train someplace and dick around with 2 stations on one side. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Oct 14 19:23:53 2017, in response to [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Oct 14 09:21:26 2017. I'm amazed they made investments in this line when it had only 14 years left to live... |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 20:57:08 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by MainR3664 on Sat Oct 14 19:23:53 2017. Apparently, investing in dying lines wasn't all that uncommon. The LIRR Rockaway line was elevated only about 20 years before its demise, and so were the abandoned portions of the Staten Island Railway. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 14 21:36:15 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 16:36:42 2017. My guess is that, with the 2nd Ave el gone, their property holdings would increase in value. The developers went so far as to make sure that the City Council's Brooklyn members, who usually voted along the same lines as their Queens counterparts, voted to take down the el. The Queens politicians were thrown under the bus! I don't know the details about who got to Laguardia, who wanted the lower 2nd Ave el kept, until work would begin on the lower part of the SAS. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 14 22:55:11 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by MainR3664 on Sat Oct 14 19:23:53 2017. But I'm sure at the time they did not foresee it closing in 14 years time. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 15 07:35:14 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 20:57:08 2017. LIRR thought since way before WWII that they would eventually palm off the RBB to the subway system. It was Robert Moses who saw to it that the Liberty Ave - White Pot Park segment got abandoned. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sun Oct 15 12:49:07 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 16:36:42 2017. there actually is a serious market for steel these days that was made before 1945, to use in machines that have to be radiation sensitive. Everything made since has been sufficiently irradiated through the increase of general background radiation from the testing of atomic weapons that the reading would be off. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Oct 15 17:39:33 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 14 22:55:11 2017. If I recall from reading my NYCTS history, the third tracking of the 2 Av El was done a lot earlier than 1928, more like 1915. Why there seems to be a bumping block made of crossties on the exp tk, I don’t know. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 15 20:18:12 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by randyo on Sun Oct 15 17:39:33 2017. Agreed. This is well after the 3rd track was installed. Note the red flag on the express track, it looks like they are simply doing maintenance. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 16 07:22:34 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 14 20:57:08 2017. The loss of the North Shore and South Beach portions of SIR saddens me greatly. I think the Robin Road trestle is STILL hanging on, by the way. |
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Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 16 07:23:56 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] 2nd Ave Elevated At 42nd St., posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 14 22:55:11 2017. Probably not. You'd think somebody would have said- "hey- let's not junk a line we just overhauled!". Alas... |
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