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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 7 20:21:44 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat May 6 22:49:47 2017. More frequent service. Lefferts trains run on 15-20 minute off-peak headways. The C runs at 10-12. That being said, I'm sure Lefferts Blvd riders will bitch about having to ride a local no matter what. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun May 7 20:39:59 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 7 19:00:03 2017. In NYC, expresses don't whiz by. In fact, the local whizzing past the express is not uncommon. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 7 20:50:18 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun May 7 20:39:59 2017. Coming south to midtown:- D vastly outperforms the B. - 4/5 ditto vs the 6. - 2/3 vs the 1. Even for A/D vs B/C from 125 to 59 usually the express saves some time. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 7 21:37:10 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun May 7 18:54:05 2017. When standing, even if the express takes the same amount of time it is better. The reason being, the doors open less, and sometimes you will have long stretches where only one side opens. No repositioning to worry about.If you're on a local there's really no good door to lean on, unless the door motor is broken. This is why IMO local trains should use R46-style cars with plenty of extra seats, while express trains make more sense to have the R160-type seating. If you're sitting the extra 5-10 minutes and extra times the doors open aren't really a problem. If standing it's torture. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun May 7 21:49:36 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 7 21:37:10 2017. "If you're on a local there's really no good door to lean on...Leaning on the doors is both dangerous and prohibited on both express and local trains. |
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Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Mon May 8 02:28:49 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by AlM on Sun May 7 20:50:18 2017. "-D vastly outperforms the B"That may depend on time of day. I have found the opposite of what you state to be true. The two times I was going southbound at 6:00 PM, the D express I was on got passed by two Cs and a B between 125th and 59th. I should have gotten on the B at BPB and stayed on. |
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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Mon May 8 14:35:26 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 7 20:21:44 2017. But that's off-peak. What about rush hours? Rush hours is a different story, as the A runs much more frequently then. Not to mention that you'd have the A expresses and C locals merging in a third location (Euclid). |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 8 15:03:28 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 7 20:21:44 2017. There are only 3 stops from Lefferts to 96th St-Rockaway Blvd. They can change there for "A" express from the Rockaways to the City. Add a few more rush-hour "A" trains from Lefferts, like they used to do with the "E" express, years ago. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon May 8 16:34:22 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 8 15:03:28 2017. Yup...like they did with the E,and what they do now with the 5 rush hour A to Rock Pk. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon May 8 23:19:03 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by AlM on Sun May 7 20:50:18 2017. I've found that local stops usually add about 30 seconds each to the running time, a little more in rush hours if they are crowded. So the A in Brooklyn will typically save about 5 minutes over the C (the 9 local stops skipped would make it nominally a 4.5 minute difference). 10 minutes max if all the stops are jammed, which seems unlikely. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 9 01:21:18 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon May 8 23:19:03 2017. Even more time with these stupid automated announcements on tech trains.They have to reduce the duration of these automated announcements at some stations. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue May 9 02:25:22 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon May 8 23:19:03 2017. a little more in rush hours if they are crowdedQuite a bit more in rush hours if they are crowded. A rush hour 6 from 14th to 42nd can easily take 3-4 minutes more than the 4/5. From BB to 125th you are talking about a lot of extra time. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 9 13:05:02 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Edwards! on Mon May 8 16:34:22 2017. Five sounds like a good number of AM rush hour put-ins from Lefferts, too! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 9 14:30:36 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 9 01:21:18 2017. I don’t think that the automated announcements have any effect on how long the C/R wants to keep the doors open. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue May 9 18:04:37 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun May 7 19:00:03 2017. Exactly. The express may only save a few minutes, but it feels much faster. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Wed May 10 11:02:39 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 9 01:21:18 2017. They have tried doing that, dropping the "This is a" intro to the announcements on some trains, for example. Do the rules require that conductors allow the full announcement for each station to play before closing the doors? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed May 10 13:22:18 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Dyre Dan on Wed May 10 11:02:39 2017. Yes. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Wed May 10 19:38:53 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun May 7 20:21:44 2017. Currently the Lefferts operates on a 16 minute headway during off peak hours so that's not such a big improvement especially since the train would be local or you have to transfer to an express. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed May 10 19:58:30 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed May 10 13:22:18 2017. That's not what Randyo said. Who's right? |
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Posted by fastlane on Wed May 17 20:34:38 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017. Its about time they thought about the idea of sending the C train to Lifters Blvd. Also change the A to Rockaway Park to the H train. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 17 22:46:22 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by fastlane on Wed May 17 20:34:38 2017. Make sure you know who "they" are first. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 18 16:48:24 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by fastlane on Wed May 17 20:34:38 2017. No need for a separate letter for Rock Pk A trains since both branches are identical for the majority of their routes. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 18 17:31:43 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by randyo on Thu May 18 16:48:24 2017. Is that why they got rid of the "9" designation for one of the two flavors of #5 trains ?I'd make the Diamond , and give each of the 3 Shuttles their own designation, (H, P, 8). |
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Posted by Michael549 on Thu May 18 20:25:29 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Joe V on Thu May 18 17:31:43 2017. "Is that why they got rid of the "9" designation for one of the two flavors of #5 trains ?"Since when was the #5 ever had a variation that could be called #9? In previous fantasy maps by Wallyhorse and others - the #5 line also had variation signage called #10, the #6 line had variation signage called #12, and the #7 line variation signage called #11. Just wondering. Mike |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 19 01:54:16 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Michael549 on Thu May 18 20:25:29 2017. I believe the 6 Express was to be the 8,not 12.The 12 was a Lenox Flatbush version of the former 3 line route before the terminal switch. The 13 was the Dyre New Lots version of the 2,and the 10 is the White Plains Road Lexington ave Thru Express. |
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Posted by gbs on Fri May 19 02:39:21 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by randyo on Thu May 18 16:48:24 2017. Why do the Bx40 and Bx42 have different route numbers? They are identical for most of their routes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 19 11:02:10 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by gbs on Fri May 19 02:39:21 2017. They used to be the same route number IIRC. Split up due to confusion at the southeastern end, or so it looks to me. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 19 13:17:44 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 19 01:54:16 2017. Actually, the 8 was the post war number originally given to the Astoria Line when the IRT ran there and later assigned to the Bx portion of the 3 Av El. The original 9 was used on the Dyre Ave shuttle before it was reassigned to the Bway skip stop. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri May 19 13:26:21 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Joe V on Thu May 4 10:41:28 2017. Probably has something to do with the crappy A service itself. You have to wait for the infrequent shuttle, and hope it connects with the infrequent A, as opposed to taking the Q53 directly to Liberty Avenue where you have a choice of any A train.In any case, here's an idea: How about the A remains the same during rush hour (when the Lefferts & Far Rockaway branches all run somewhat frequently individually) but the C is sent to Lefferts off-peak, with A service split up among the Rockaways and the shuttle eliminated? The only problem is that reverse-peak service isn't as good as peak service (those Rockaway Park A trains are peak-direction only) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 19 15:22:59 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by randyo on Fri May 19 13:17:44 2017. Maybe I ought to do a prank page where the 9 becomes the 9th Avenue subway. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri May 19 17:18:53 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Michael549 on Thu May 18 20:25:29 2017. I've seen early photos of bright red R28's or R33's signed for "9". |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 19 17:53:11 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by randyo on Fri May 19 13:17:44 2017. I know.Im talkin about the extra routes signage on the R62 cars... |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri May 19 20:28:42 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 19 15:22:59 2017. Why not? Just look at the mileage we got out of 76th Street! |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 20 07:15:50 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Fri May 19 13:26:21 2017. Rock Park can't justify all those A's. It has 20% of the ridership of the Far Rockaway branch. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sat May 20 15:07:47 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Joe V on Sat May 20 07:15:50 2017. Here are the subway station annual ridership rankings for 2015 along the "A" [and "S"] lines from Euclid Avenue going outward,Euclid Avenue = 146 Grant Avenue = 239 80th-Hudson = 313 88th-Boyd = 365 Rockaway Boulevard = 279 104th-Oxford = 404 111th-Greenwood = 390 Lefferts Boulevard = 226 Aqueduct Racetrack = 383 Aqueduct-North Conduit Avenue = 412 Howard Beach-JFK = 359 Broad Channel = 421 Beach 90th = 413 Beach 98th = 418 Beach 105th = 420 Beach 116th/Rockaway Park = 417 Beach 67th = 386 Beach 60th = 385 Beach 44th = 419 Beach 36th = 416 Beach 25th = 402 Mott Avenue/Far Rockaway = 301 Annual Subway Ridership - MTA Facts & Figures. -William A. Padron ["IND"] |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 20 15:47:02 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by William A. Padron on Sat May 20 15:07:47 2017. Rank does not tell ridership. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 21 18:13:17 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Michael549 on Thu May 18 20:25:29 2017. When I saw the 9 in use for the Dyre shuttle, the mainline service that went to Dyre was the 7 Av Exp (#2). I believe the number was intended only for use by the shuttle and not any of the mainline services that went to Dyre. |
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