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That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017

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http://channel45news.com/2017/04/the-mta-is-considering-extending-c-train-service-to-lefferts-boulevard/

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 30 17:00:13 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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If I'm reading that right, Grant Ave-Lefferts Blvd folks will have to
take either a C local all the way in, and for express trains change to an Express A at either Euclid or Rockaway Blvd.
That will not sit well with Ozone Pk patrons who would lose their one seat express ride to Downtown

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Apr 30 17:12:29 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Stupid prank website.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by AlM on Sun Apr 30 17:15:33 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Posted 29 days late.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Joe V on Sun Apr 30 17:47:40 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Union Tpke on Sun Apr 30 17:12:29 2017.

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Yet is has been debated so many times on this chatboard over the years.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 30 18:10:16 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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April Fools joke on the wrong end of the month.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by randyo on Sun Apr 30 18:17:30 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 30 17:00:13 2017.

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As will still be making all the stops between Rocky Blvd and Euclid so the only stations affected would be Oxford, Greenwood and Lefferts. I would assume that on midnights, the As would only be running to Far Rock with Rock Pk continuing to be served by the shuttle. I actually doubt that the Cs will operate overnights to 168 St but will probably replace the current A shuttle between Euclid and Lefferts.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Apr 30 18:19:41 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 30 17:15:33 2017.

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You took the words right out of my mouth.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 30 20:46:39 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by AlM on Sun Apr 30 17:15:33 2017.

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Next year's April Fools:

M to Forest Hills on weekends.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 20:54:30 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Apr 30 18:10:16 2017.

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Still funny.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Apr 30 21:11:02 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 30 17:00:13 2017.

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You missed where it said "Create Prank".

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Dan on Mon May 1 08:46:11 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Nice try. ;-)

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Nilet on Mon May 1 08:53:40 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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TEAR DOWN LEFFERTS BLVD!

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 1 11:42:34 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Nilet on Mon May 1 08:53:40 2017.

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And extend it to JFK.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by SLRT on Mon May 1 11:48:45 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Nilet on Mon May 1 08:53:40 2017.

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Don't joke. They might.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 1 12:05:31 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by SLRT on Mon May 1 11:48:45 2017.

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What if they replace it with Lefferts Avenue?

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by AlM on Mon May 1 12:06:49 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by SLRT on Mon May 1 11:48:45 2017.

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How do you tear it down? It's already at street level.


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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by MATHA531 on Mon May 1 16:44:17 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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I don't know if it's meant tongue in cheek since it really makes a lot of sense for a variety of reasons. The A to either Far Rock or Rock Park is more or less the train to the plane. I don't know if there are operational difficulties or whatever or if the people using the Lefferts branch are more politically connected but simply from an outsider looking in, it really is sort of a no brainer.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 1 18:01:22 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by MATHA531 on Mon May 1 16:44:17 2017.

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The website is a prank website.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by B1bus on Mon May 1 18:48:27 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 1 18:01:22 2017.

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Yes, Channel 45 news?

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Transportation Hub on Mon May 1 19:54:45 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Which channel is channel 45 news? This is a joke.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by 3-9 on Mon May 1 22:19:57 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Haha. Maybe they'll route it through 76th Street. :-)

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon May 1 22:30:17 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Transportation Hub on Mon May 1 19:54:45 2017.

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This is a joke

More like parody.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 2 01:14:43 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 30 17:00:13 2017.

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Yeah.
You've didn't see rhe fine print.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 2 01:15:25 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 30 17:00:13 2017.

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Yeah.
You've didn't see the fine print.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 2 11:38:34 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by AlM on Mon May 1 12:06:49 2017.

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The same way you tear down the East River, of course.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 2 11:58:54 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Edwards! on Tue May 2 01:15:25 2017.

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OK. My bad. You got me. I missed that!
But prank or no prank, I've worked with the MTA suits for the last 10 years of my Railroad career & an Idea like that would be a typical bonehead suggestion that someone would make with a straight face.
Like merging the LIRR & Metro North into one Railroad, with one name & dropping the LIRR identity, which was the true dealbreaker right there. That didn't quite work out & most likely never will.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 2 12:40:47 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 30 20:46:39 2017.

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M to Forest Hills on weekends.

You would have to call that the Wallyhorse Local. :-)

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 2 12:42:52 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Prank website aside, would this be a good idea to be implemented ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by AlM on Tue May 2 13:09:30 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 2 12:42:52 2017.

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No.

Costs lots of extra money (more A trains, more C trains). Pisses off almost half the Queens ridership of the A train.

If it's more airport service that's desired, extend the C to Howard Beach and leave the A alone.



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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by R30A on Tue May 2 14:26:41 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by MATHA531 on Mon May 1 16:44:17 2017.

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Lefferts Boulevard itself is BY FAR the busiest station past the Rockaway Boulevard split. The only other station which comes anywhere close is Far Rockaway itself.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by AlM on Tue May 2 16:15:51 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by MATHA531 on Mon May 1 16:44:17 2017.

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simply from an outsider looking in, it really is sort of a no brainer.

No it isn't. Far Rockaway is a lot longer a distance than Lefferts, and that branch doesn't have many more riders than Lefferts does.

It is way more efficient to use limited resources short-turning half of A trains at Lefferts.

If you want more trains to the plane, send the C to Howard Beach. People who get on a C there can switch to the first A that comes at Rockaway Blvd or Euclid.



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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Tue May 2 16:44:05 2017, in response to That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Apr 30 16:20:49 2017.

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Chris, I know that I'm late responding, but man you are wrong on so many levels. LOL, LOL, LOL. How's everything going?

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 18:36:09 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by AlM on Tue May 2 13:09:30 2017.

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when you consider the dwell and relay time of a train at Euclid vs. sending it to Lefferts, you won't need many more trains.

When calculating run times on the C, you have to include the relay time too. That's wasted time.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 18:46:49 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by R30A on Tue May 2 14:26:41 2017.

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yeah.

If the day ever comes that the C goes to Lefferts, you'd have to have a few A train put-ins and drop-outs at Lefferts during rush hour.



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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by AlM on Tue May 2 18:51:41 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 18:36:09 2017.

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you won't need many more trains

LOL. You won't need many more C trains. You'll need a lot more A trains.


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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue May 2 19:01:34 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by AlM on Tue May 2 16:15:51 2017.

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Send every other C to Howard Beach, otherwise Far Rock riders would rebel: C headways would be better than Far Rock headways if all C's were sent to Howard Beach.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by AlM on Tue May 2 19:58:58 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue May 2 19:01:34 2017.

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Sure, that sounds good too.


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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 2 20:24:46 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 2 11:58:54 2017.

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Like merging the LIRR & Metro(-)North into one Railroad, with one name & dropping the LIRR identity

Dropping the "Metro-North" name as well, which itself got rid of the "Central" and "New Haven" identities. They wanted to call it all the "MTA Rail Road".

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 2 20:25:22 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 18:46:49 2017.

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Let's send the C to Far Rockaway/Mott Avenue instead.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 20:46:14 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 2 20:25:22 2017.

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Against the wall? LOL!



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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 2 20:46:33 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 18:46:49 2017.

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When the "E" ran express to the Rockaways, during rush hours, the TA put in 3 AM trains from Lefferts Blvd.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 2 21:03:46 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Elkeeper on Tue May 2 20:46:33 2017.

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When the "E" ran express to the Rockaways, during rush hours, the TA put in 3 AM trains from Lefferts Blvd.

Interesting. I'm guessing put-ins from Pitkin Yard.




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Re: Extending the C To Lefferts

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue May 2 21:15:32 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Apr 30 17:00:13 2017.

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Prank or not, it's something that could easily be done:

Those who want the (A) can make a same platform transfer anywhere between Rockaway Boulevard and Euclid. Sure, some would hate losing a one-seat ride, but the overall benefits (including more trains to/from Lefferts in the first place) outweigh losing their express ride.

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Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter.

Posted by fdtutf on Tue May 2 21:23:26 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by AlM on Mon May 1 12:06:49 2017.

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They tore down the original surface station here and replaced it with an underground station, so why not?


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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by jimmymc25 on Tue May 2 22:00:50 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 2 20:24:46 2017.

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Heh....I forgot about that one.


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Re: Extending the C To Lefferts

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 2 23:02:07 2017, in response to Re: Extending the C To Lefferts, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue May 2 21:15:32 2017.

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Easy or not, If they ever extended the C to Lefferts as the sole service there, that would be a death sentence to the Liberty Ave El east of Rockaway Blvd. Riders would not put up with a one seat local ride that would take forever to get downtown or changing to An A from the Rockaways, freezing their assess off on the "same" platform at Rockaway Blvd or Euclid Ave in the winter for the express they are used to having all along.
Ridership would nosedive, the MTA would say abandon ship & justify its abandonment a/c low patronage.
Its been done time & time again over the years. Ruin the service or fail to upkeep to make riders vanish & say its time to rip it down.
Last time they tried that was with the Franklin Shuttle. Luckily the locals voiced loud enough & the line was saved & re-built. No such luck with Myrtle Ave & 3d Ave Bx. lines as a few examples.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 2 23:06:12 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 2 12:42:52 2017.

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No, unless somehow you can get a third service to take over the local stops between Hoyt and Euclid.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 2 23:18:41 2017, in response to Re: Pedestrians aren't the only ones who matter., posted by fdtutf on Tue May 2 21:23:26 2017.

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Could you please stop changing thread titles to that one? Thanks.

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Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd

Posted by Q Brightliner Harry on Wed May 3 01:04:50 2017, in response to Re: That is great news, the C train being extended to Lefferts Blvd, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue May 2 19:01:34 2017.

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That is a great idea! I hope some decision-maker is paying attention.

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