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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 27 18:00:17 2017 3rd Rail Fire |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 27 19:15:45 2017, in response to Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 27 18:00:17 2017. Not very flattering comments. :-(Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 27 19:45:14 2017, in response to Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 27 18:00:17 2017. If they'd gone with overhead, this wouldn't have happened. I mean, it could very well have been a downed wire incident at the exact same time and place, but it wouldn't have been a third rail fire :). |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Mar 27 20:58:32 2017, in response to Re: Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 27 19:45:14 2017. In that case, perhaps the train would not have been able to make a reverse move. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Mar 27 21:51:48 2017, in response to Re: Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 27 19:15:45 2017. From CT. What do you expect.Them lily left libs up there want purrfect service for cheap dollars. ROAR |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Mon Mar 27 22:19:08 2017, in response to Re: Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 27 19:45:14 2017. If it had been a diesel it wouldn't have needed either ;-) |
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Posted by menJop on Tue Mar 28 01:01:31 2017, in response to Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 27 18:00:17 2017. What language was that article written in? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 01:53:01 2017, in response to Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Mar 27 18:00:17 2017. That does it. Time to convert everything on Metro-North to overhead wires once and for all. Great excuse to build it all the way to Rensselaer so that Amtrak can finally use ACS-64s on the Empire Service trains. Also no fumes in GCT anymore. Metro-North will have to use ALP-45DPs on the Waterbury, Danbury and Wassaic trains though. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 28 07:34:41 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 01:53:01 2017. You cannot put wires in GCT: The overheads are too low.ROAR |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Mar 28 10:37:37 2017, in response to Re: Metro North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Steamdriven on Mon Mar 27 22:19:08 2017. and it still would not ave been allowed thru interlocking since after fire the damaged third rail needed repair. so train would still need to back up at restricted speed (15 mph or less) all way back to Woodlawn (about 6 miles) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 28 15:23:35 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 28 01:53:01 2017. Like wires are never downed in storms or by tangling with the catenaries. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 28 18:19:58 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 28 07:34:41 2017. Actually, wires just might clear in GCT since there either are, or at least were, overhead 3rd rails that were used to pore the electric locos incase that got gapped going over the many slip switches in the terminal area. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Mar 28 20:22:37 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by randyo on Tue Mar 28 18:19:58 2017. Catenary wire will not clear in park avenue tunnel and 12.5 Kv needs about two foot above the train.the overhead third rail used in GCT and melrose tunnel only needed 2 or 3 inches as it was 660 volt DC |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 28 20:33:51 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by randyo on Tue Mar 28 18:19:58 2017. You just might be right. With the height of the NH equiptment with their resister cover humps on top of each car having no problem fitting into GCT, wire might just fit. AS far as the overhead 3d rail used to power engines over long 3d rail track level switch gaps all those years ago, last time I looked, its still there.Who knows, it might still be energized. The folks I knew that I could have asked have retired too. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Mar 28 20:51:51 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 28 20:33:51 2017. all overhead third rail is gone, after E10b's were retired there was no need for it anymore. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 28 21:27:09 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Mar 28 20:51:51 2017. OK Thanks. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 00:06:11 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Mar 28 07:34:41 2017. Something tells me they may not be, and in fact may have better clearance than in NYP. And tunnel clearances under Park Avenue are (IIRC) almost close to those of the North River Tunnels, and not unfixable if need be. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 10:47:22 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by italianstallion on Tue Mar 28 15:23:35 2017. The kind of storms that down the wires would drown the third rail. Wires and third rail are equal victims of tree limbs or even whole trees in such storms. Advocating 100% dieselization, are you? Third rail is not for high-speed operation, remember; max is about 100 mph.Besides, there is a wonderful modern invention called the chainsaw. That generally keeps tree limbs from being in places where they could foul a track or wires. Is this just another expression of your continued hatred of trains, ultimately? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Mar 29 11:05:11 2017, in response to Re: Metro-North 3rd Rail fire, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 10:47:22 2017. Stop being a troll. |
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