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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:51:22 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 19:25:15 2016. LOL! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:51:37 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 18:21:44 2016. Bookmarked!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:52:00 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 16:29:12 2016. Omg LOL!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:52:34 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 16:22:04 2016. Pwn3d |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:57:10 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 26 19:31:06 2016. It was in the context of bringing a lawsuit against the MTA, which is "the state" in this case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:16:50 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:57:10 2016. Correct. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:18:14 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Oct 26 21:51:22 2016. IAWTLOL! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:22:40 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 19:25:15 2016. If a case is frivolous, it wouldn't go to trial, so your post makes no sense. And my personal opinion is better than yours. Damn right, it's better than yours, I can teach you, but I have to charge. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:23:51 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Oct 26 20:34:58 2016. Excellent post. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 02:27:24 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:22:40 2016. Is it frivolous, or is it based on some kind of principle that a government agency is allowed to make reasonable judgments, which may not benefit all people?I can imagine that one could come up with real evidence that of two essentially comparable apartments the same distance from a subway station, the one near the express stop has higher value. But a court might still rule that the case can't go forward because the government agency used its judgment to try to act in the interests of the people as a whole. This wouldn't necessarily mean the case was frivolous. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 02:31:26 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:16:50 2016. Thank you. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Oct 27 03:14:10 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Michael549 on Wed Oct 26 17:34:54 2016. Kinda steep...but you might be correct about his over reaching.However, I like him.. He makes no small plans |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 07:56:51 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 26 23:22:40 2016. Plenty of "frivolous" cases go to trial, and are thrown out immediately.Again, your labeling of this as "frivolous" will never be anything more than your opinion. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Oct 27 08:00:02 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 26 19:31:06 2016. The state is sovereign and cannot be sued without its consent.Many years back this consent was given or else the law was repealsed. IMHO FWIW : States could and should be sued, but no money awards could be forthcoming. ROAR |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:04:06 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 07:56:51 2016. Thrown out by whom? Do you even know what a trial is? As I've already said, my opinion is more authoritative than yours. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:05:39 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 02:27:24 2016. There's no cause of action for the MTA rerouting trains. Do you see anybody in Williamsburg suing over the pending L train shutdown? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:12:09 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:05:39 2016. I understand. But why not? People are really being economically damaged by the L train shutdown. It's not frivolous, in my understanding of the word. I would think there was a different doctrine that prevent suits, rather than frivolity. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:31:06 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:05:39 2016. That is a temporary and unavoidable shut down for rebuilding, as has happened to the Franklin Shuttle, and will also happen to the Myrtle Ave M line, not a permanent degradation in service, which is what the Hillside Ave local stops had for a while with the R in the late 1980's.We also know the TA has never known how to run the R service reliably. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:32:36 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:04:06 2016. No, your opinion is just an opinion. You are not lawyer or a judge.Cases get thrown out by judges in courtrooms all the time. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:34:10 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:32:36 2016. LOL! |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:34:51 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:32:36 2016. LOL. How do you know he's not a lawyer? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:37:19 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:34:51 2016. Because he would not be carrying on with zero information. Some of us were adults by then. I am not even sure he was born by 1988. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:38:21 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 08:04:06 2016. I agree with this post. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:39:54 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:37:19 2016. Wow, you are REALLY CLUELESS! How can you not catch all the hints and context clues about what SubChatters like Spider-Pig or I do for our occupation??? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:42:24 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:34:51 2016. Exactly. He's becoming a mini-bingbong or a maxi-BrooklynBus. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:44:34 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:39:54 2016. His use of the term "frivolious" does not constitute "hint" and "context clues", and still amounts to nothing. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:44:54 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:38:21 2016. Who cares. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:46:46 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:42:24 2016. Who are better than a clueless troll that you are. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:47:47 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:37:19 2016. But he isn't carrying on with zero information. He is expressing an opinion backed up by certain information. So are you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:50:34 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:44:34 2016. No, in many of his posts, not just this one.And it's not nothing. He's in a much better position to know than you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:50:56 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:44:54 2016. The people on the right side of history. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:51:07 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:47:47 2016. Oh, but he claims his opinion is so much more "authoritative" than mine. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 09:00:08 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Oct 27 08:50:56 2016. But you don't even know the history. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 11:22:56 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 08:51:07 2016. If, perchance, he were a lawyer, that would be a reasonable claim. How do you know he's not a lawyer? Did you ask him? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 11:37:50 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 11:22:56 2016. No. If he were, he'd have said so. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 11:43:14 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 11:37:50 2016. Why? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Thu Oct 27 12:29:07 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 26 19:26:26 2016. I'm not being cruel!I know that this is Halloween season where the dead get resurrected. So there the annual act of Wallyhorse bringing up the idea of extending the G-train to either Forest Hills or 179th Street. This is Halloween! This is Halloween! Halloween! Halloween! (Smile) Mike |
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Posted by Michael549 on Thu Oct 27 13:13:14 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by randyo on Wed Oct 26 16:54:30 2016. Simply additional information:1990s and 2000s changes: When the IND Archer Avenue Line opened on December 11, 1988, E service was rerouted along to Jamaica Center–Parsons/Archer, and the R was extended to replace the E to Jamaica–179th Street.[9] The extension to Jamaica was short-lived, and the R was cut back on September 30, 1990 outside of rush hours,[10] and then during rush hours in October 25, 1992 to 71st–Continental Avenue in favor of making the F local between 71st Avenue and 179th Street at all times, eliminating express service along Hillside Avenue.[11][10] Copied from Wikipedia - R (New York City Subway service) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 15:01:13 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 08:12:09 2016. In order to sue and survive a motion to dismiss by the defendant, the lawsuit must be based on some existing legal principle. IOW, there has no to be some statute, constitutional provision, precedent, etc. based on which you are suing. There is none here. Now, I could be wrong, and there could be a valid cause of action, but Mr. V has not stated it. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Oct 27 15:27:46 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 15:01:13 2016. OK, thanks. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 15:32:05 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 15:01:13 2016. There has TO be not "no be." |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:11:56 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 15:01:13 2016. The realtors use "express" service to Manhattan as a selling point and also how long it takes. They also mention the LIRR taking 17 minutes.There are several references to the locale of the express subway stops and the LIRR trip time. So trip time matters in selling real estate. Swap out the E or F for the R, and their commute time climbs 10 minutes, or they transfer at FH, adding to trip time, to resume their express train journey. They can claim they lost a selling advantage, took too long to sell, and had to lower the price, or else their property did not go up in value as much as it could have had they not messed with the service. These are currents example: https://www.redfin.com/NY/Unknown/10740-Queens-Blvd-11375/unit-8D/home/108866932 "Lovely Sunny 1Br, Commuter's Dream: Express Subway Stop Same Corner" http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/realestate/28living.html?_r=0 |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 27 16:31:23 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:11:56 2016. The realtors use "express" service to Manhattan as a selling pointAnd like all selling points, they come and go. Your house overlooks the bay until they build something tall between your house and the bay. Your house is one block from the supermarket until the supermarket goes out of business. They can't sue the supermarket for going out of business. If there is community opposition to modifications in subway service, that's one thing, but the realtors have no case. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 16:32:30 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 27 16:31:23 2016. Exactly! Thank you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 16:32:57 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:11:56 2016. So what? Where is the MTA's liability? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:35:49 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 27 16:31:23 2016. But the government isn't doing that. That is private commercial entities.One reason New Jersey is having so much trouble building dunes on the shore like parts of Fire Island has is that it would block their view of the ocean and the homeowners are raising hell, and yes, lawsuits. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:39:10 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 16:32:57 2016. Degrading their property value, or so they would say.It is a known fact today that property values near local stops are lower than at express tops, all else being equal. I read that in one of the northern Queens newspapers last month. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 27 16:44:29 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:35:49 2016. But the government isn't doing that. That is private commercial entities.It doesn't matter. If a private entity has the right to do something that reduces home values, why shouldn't the government, which has much more power than a private entity? The homeowners in NJ angry about losing their view and/or home value: these are not the realtors that we are discussing, and anyway we need to see their success rate with their litigation before we can assess the legal implications. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 27 16:47:12 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by Joe V on Thu Oct 27 16:39:10 2016. So let's just ask: is degrading property value, without otherwise breaking any laws, a crime? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 27 16:48:53 2016, in response to Re: Queens Boulevard during (L) shutdown, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Oct 27 16:47:12 2016. Slow down there. Nobody's talking about crime. |
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