|
|
| VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY (1403726) | |
 |
|
| Home > SubChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
|
| (1403733) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Evan on Fri Jul 29 11:13:42 2016, in response to VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jul 29 10:35:30 2016. Thanks for the videos.Even if the TMNY track were perfect in that section, electric operation or not, all movements would still be under restricted speed due to the presence of pedestrians and automobiles. Its been estimated that the repair of the track in that quarter-mile section is $780,000, being its in a brick-lined public thoroughfare. |
|
|
| (1403737) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by MR RT on Fri Jul 29 11:37:54 2016, in response to VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jul 29 10:35:30 2016. Decades ago there was one spot inside for these two cars (1349/1362).1362 was in the better condition (roof), so it stayed outside and in now essentially gone :-( The restoration of 1349 was basically done by one person, no longer at the museum. Wheel re-profiling kept it out of service. As luck would have it we were using out wheel lathe on New Orleans 850 and a couple of other cars. 1349's wheels were done too. I've operated both serviceable El cars, 1227 & 1349, but Hurricane Sandy has put them out of service again. |
|
|
(Sponsored) |
iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
|
| (1403759) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by chud1 on Fri Jul 29 14:19:37 2016, in response to VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jul 29 10:35:30 2016. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these 2 videos.chud1. :)..... |
|
|
| (1403769) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 29 15:09:40 2016, in response to VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jul 29 10:35:30 2016. Very nice! |
|
|
| (1403808) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 29 20:32:06 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by MR RT on Fri Jul 29 11:37:54 2016. Next to run will be SIRT-388,,you failed to mention this MR RT.WE-44 |
|
|
| (1403809) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 29 20:33:45 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 29 20:32:06 2016. WHEN---------- PIGS----------FLY! |
|
|
| (1403811) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 29 20:35:00 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 29 20:33:45 2016. go catch a bank robber or something Flat Foot,,WE-44 |
|
|
| (1403816) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 29 21:05:32 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 29 20:35:00 2016. been there,done that. |
|
|
| (1403824) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 29 21:58:16 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 29 21:05:32 2016. Was it MR RT.??WE-44 |
|
|
| (1403825) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jul 29 22:24:31 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 29 21:58:16 2016. records are sealed,but for some handle time........ who knows what might be revealed. |
|
|
| (1403889) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Jul 30 17:10:52 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by MR RT on Fri Jul 29 11:37:54 2016. That's a shame. I hope 1227 and 1349 get fixed and put back into service.BTW, is it possible to restore 1362? |
|
|
| (1403979) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 31 13:11:49 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Jul 30 17:10:52 2016. Wouldn't be nice for Branford to donate 1362 to NYTM for restoration? |
|
|
| (1403981) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 31 13:42:09 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 31 13:11:49 2016. nytm doesn`t do restorations,nyct does. |
|
|
| (1403995) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 31 15:54:39 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 31 13:42:09 2016. Nyct on behalf of. |
|
|
| (1404036) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 31 19:23:31 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 31 13:11:49 2016. That may help out the existing NYTM BU set by giving it an additional motor in the consist. |
|
|
| (1404055) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Stef on Sun Jul 31 20:59:02 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 31 13:11:49 2016. The el car roof could be a problem?-Stef |
|
|
| (1404059) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 31 21:05:32 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Stef on Sun Jul 31 20:59:02 2016. NO,IT WOULD BE TRUCKED IN. |
|
|
| (1404072) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 00:51:12 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jul 31 21:05:32 2016. Truck what to where?Folks seem to forget that Subway Tunnel ceilings are rather low. A car like 1362 may not clear the overhead in some spots. There was a reason for chopping the roofs of the Q Cars. And no, I wouldn't want to keep this BU stored outdoors. It has been abused by the salt air for eons --- enough of that. Wouldn't want 1362 to get a "trim" by running in the underground! -Stef |
|
|
| (1404096) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 1 10:20:00 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 00:51:12 2016. Unfortunately the roof would be compromised. I would think they could preserve the original roof for historical reasons, unless it's pretty much trashed already. |
|
|
| (1404100) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Aug 1 10:28:29 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Evan on Fri Jul 29 11:13:42 2016. You're welcome. |
|
|
| (1404103) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Aug 1 11:28:53 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 00:51:12 2016. TO CONEY ISLAND YARD WHERE THE RESTORATION WOULD TAKE PLACE. |
|
|
| (1404107) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 11:54:24 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by TUNNELRAT on Mon Aug 1 11:28:53 2016. Coney Island Overhaul hardly does restoration on the Museum Fleet these days, 207th St does the lion's share of the work now.-Stef |
|
|
| (1404111) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 1 12:32:23 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 31 13:11:49 2016. Wouldn't be nice for Branford to donate 1362 to NYTM for restoration?1362 looked like it was picked clean, the last time I saw it. Bill Newkirk |
|
|
| (1404115) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by randyo on Mon Aug 1 13:17:39 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 00:51:12 2016. One of the reasons the Q’s roofs had to be lowered was because they rode higher on the IRT Composite trucks that were installed for 3 Av el use than they rode on their original trucks. When the Qs were transferred back to Myrtle in 1958, the TA chose to retain the Composite trucks rather than transfer the trucks from the BUS that were being scrapped. |
|
|
| (1404128) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Mon Aug 1 15:35:25 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 1 13:17:39 2016. Hello Rando ---That story is an "old tale" and not accurate. BMT Wooden EL Cars (gate cars) could run thru the older BMT subway tunnels that were built to clear the one foot higher (than steel subway cars) EL Car roofs - just like the roofs of the BMT Tunnel from the Willy B Bridge to Delancey Street to Chambers Street. If you look at the Q Types (photos of them in service) and more so the 3 car retro BU Gate cars --- NOTE that the end two Motor cars of the 3-car-consist use the IRT composite trucks, but the MIDDLE Trailer car still uses its original BU Peckham Truck. And NOTE that ALL car floors and anticlimbers line up evenly between the middle trailer car and the two end motor cars. So the Composite trucks did not make their cars higher than the middle trailer car on its original BMT trucks !! The Q's ran on Myrtle from May 1958 with their high clerestory roofs thru the early 1960's retaining their high roofs. It was in the very early 1960's that all the Q's had their roofs lowered in gradual consists over about 2 years, until the whole fleet was done. If I recall correctly, there was major tunnel and routing work at the BMT Dekalb St Subway Station and massive junction area -(was it the late 1950's - very early 1960's ?) - and in this major new tunnel work something new was built (a new overhead tower perhaps, I don't recall what exactly now) that caused the newer rebuilt tunnel roofs to be rebuilt lower to the rails so they thus then only cleared steel subway car roofs. I was told decades ago that the Dekalb interlocking route was the way Myrtle EL gate cars got to Coney island - including the Q types when they went to Myrtle in May 1958. It was because of THAT new lower clearance at Dekalb station and junction rebuilding, that the Q's could no longer clear the tunnel roofs. I would ask some of our BMT Historians still remaining here to jump in provide more extensive details about the nature of that massive Dekalb Junction and routing reconstruction. |
|
|
| (1404141) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 1 18:39:39 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 11:54:24 2016. Kudos to them, then!:) |
|
|
| (1404158) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Express Rider on Mon Aug 1 22:39:42 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Mon Aug 1 15:35:25 2016. Interesting. Thanks!Always appreciate your posts. |
|
|
| (1404159) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by Stef on Mon Aug 1 23:22:54 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Aug 1 12:32:23 2016. Some parts went to 1349 as part of the rehab of that car.Glad I was able to help a former project leader get that El Car rolling after many years. -Stef |
|
|
| (1404248) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Wed Aug 3 06:55:37 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Mon Aug 1 15:35:25 2016. Hello Express RiderYou are welcome, and thank you also. Also, if you find and look at old photos of BMT EL Gate Cars (and 1300 series motor gate cars operating up to May 1958) on the BMT Myrtle Ave. EL, in shots taken from the center island wooden platforms on the ancient older lower Myrtle portion, you will note HOW MUCH HIGHER the end open platforms were located along the edge of the somewhat lower wooden-plank station platforms. Meaning you had to STEP UP about 2 inches onto the gate car end open-platforms to enter the EL car. Also, Photos of BMT EL gate cars at the Park Row Station and Sands Street Station had and show the same height variance issue ! I do have photos of these situations which clearly show the height difference at these (and Myrtle) stations. So when the Q-types went to Myrtle in mid-1958, the A and C end motor cars having IRT Composite trucks, and the B trailer center car having its original BU Peckham trailer trucks (with it's 31' wheels) -- all cars sat at the same car to car floor and anticlimber height evenly. And thus, their side-entry-door floor-sills and the car floors were just as high and equally so, above the wooden station platforms, as were the end open-platforms and car floors as the BMT 1200, 1300 and 1400 motor gate cars (all having their original BMT Trucks) that operated the Myrtle EL line years before the Q's arrived in April-May 1958. Regards - Joe F |
|
|
| (1404251) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 3 07:22:56 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by chud1 on Fri Jul 29 14:19:37 2016. Thank you! |
|
|
| (1404382) | |
Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
|
|
Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Aug 4 09:24:19 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 29 15:09:40 2016. Thanks! |
|
|
