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Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY |
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Posted by JOE @ NYCMTS - NYCTMG on Mon Aug 1 15:35:25 2016, in response to Re: VIDEOS: BMT EL car 1349 ride at SLTM and a Trolley Ride at the TMNY, posted by randyo on Mon Aug 1 13:17:39 2016. Hello Rando ---That story is an "old tale" and not accurate. BMT Wooden EL Cars (gate cars) could run thru the older BMT subway tunnels that were built to clear the one foot higher (than steel subway cars) EL Car roofs - just like the roofs of the BMT Tunnel from the Willy B Bridge to Delancey Street to Chambers Street. If you look at the Q Types (photos of them in service) and more so the 3 car retro BU Gate cars --- NOTE that the end two Motor cars of the 3-car-consist use the IRT composite trucks, but the MIDDLE Trailer car still uses its original BU Peckham Truck. And NOTE that ALL car floors and anticlimbers line up evenly between the middle trailer car and the two end motor cars. So the Composite trucks did not make their cars higher than the middle trailer car on its original BMT trucks !! The Q's ran on Myrtle from May 1958 with their high clerestory roofs thru the early 1960's retaining their high roofs. It was in the very early 1960's that all the Q's had their roofs lowered in gradual consists over about 2 years, until the whole fleet was done. If I recall correctly, there was major tunnel and routing work at the BMT Dekalb St Subway Station and massive junction area -(was it the late 1950's - very early 1960's ?) - and in this major new tunnel work something new was built (a new overhead tower perhaps, I don't recall what exactly now) that caused the newer rebuilt tunnel roofs to be rebuilt lower to the rails so they thus then only cleared steel subway car roofs. I was told decades ago that the Dekalb interlocking route was the way Myrtle EL gate cars got to Coney island - including the Q types when they went to Myrtle in May 1958. It was because of THAT new lower clearance at Dekalb station and junction rebuilding, that the Q's could no longer clear the tunnel roofs. I would ask some of our BMT Historians still remaining here to jump in provide more extensive details about the nature of that massive Dekalb Junction and routing reconstruction. |
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