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The SAS is here, sorta |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016 http://gothamist.com/2016/05/26/behold_new_subway_map_includes_seco.php |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 27 07:18:37 2016, in response to The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016. A Q train that no longer reaches Queens? |
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Posted by Stef on Fri May 27 07:20:03 2016, in response to The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016. It's here for sure, RTO now lists the Second Ave Line in the GO Section.The CWR Train is being utilized for rail installation on S1 (Brooklyn Bound) Track between 72 and 96th Sts, while the Track Geometry Car will be doing its rounds on S2 (96th St Bound) from Lexington Av to the end of the line. Second Avenue isn't electrified yet. -Stef |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 27 07:37:29 2016, in response to The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016. Heh. It doesn't show the W as terminating at Whitehall. That should be good for about 1,000 posts here. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 27 07:48:14 2016, in response to The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016. I read the Gothamist article- neat. So I figured I'd check out the official MTA site. I went to the "maps" tab, and got a 503 error- "out site is currently unavailable".Then I went back about 2 minutes later- the site is back up, and shows the actual existing service pattern. I guess some of the bosses thought better about showing service that does not actually exist, and I caught them in the moment of making the switch. Enthusiastic as I am about the SAS, I don't think it's smart to show service that doesn't exist in any form yet. Of course, in the 1970s old maps were left in place for years on trains and in stations- so in 1977 or so, some folks may have gone looking for the MJ...but I digress. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri May 27 11:45:40 2016, in response to The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016. Around Christmas I took a stroll on Second Ave and the Entrances for 96th Street was already built with escalators and all. I can only imagine how far along it is now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 12:05:53 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by AlM on Fri May 27 07:37:29 2016. Yes, it does. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri May 27 13:05:34 2016, in response to The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri May 27 06:51:45 2016. "It's on the map. It's on the god-damned map!" (Speed, 1994)--Mark |
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Posted by zac on Fri May 27 16:43:04 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by MainR3664 on Fri May 27 07:48:14 2016. I remember maps with the 3rd Ave el, and other long gone els, in the 60s. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 27 17:01:04 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 27 07:18:37 2016. Until the W was eliminated, the Q didn’t go to Queens at all either. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 17:10:51 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by randyo on Fri May 27 17:01:04 2016. It did from 1989 to 1998, 1999 to 2001 and briefly in 2001. Only that last one was via its proper route on Broadway. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri May 27 18:07:56 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 17:10:51 2016. But prior to 2001, the Q services were temporary due to the Manny B construction. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 18:13:26 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by randyo on Fri May 27 18:07:56 2016. Yes, true. Also the post-9/11 routing to Forest Hills. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 27 18:50:02 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 12:05:53 2016. I don't see a yellow W square near Whitehall like I see brown J and Z squares. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri May 27 18:54:49 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri May 27 11:45:40 2016. Escalators? Oh no! They'll hold opening day up another hundred years! |
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Posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:39:24 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 17:10:51 2016. Some 1995 Queens Q's went via Broadway too! |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri May 27 20:46:55 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri May 27 18:54:49 2016. which is why I despise overly deep tunnels. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 21:06:14 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by AlM on Fri May 27 18:50:02 2016. There's a link on that page to a full map. It has the W square below where the smaller map cuts off. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 21:06:45 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:39:24 2016. Yes, I remember that and have the special map! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sat May 28 00:05:53 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri May 27 13:05:34 2016. "I'm just goin' out to see duh place," he says. "I like duh sound of duh name... Bensonuhoist, y'know...""How d' yuh know deh was such a place," I says, "I got a map dat tells me about all dese places." "Wit dat, he pulls out of his pocket ... a big map of duh whole goddam place ... Mahked out ... Canarsie an' East Noo Yawk an' Flatbush, Bensonhoist, Sout' Broooklyn, duh Heights, Bay Ridge, Greenpernt - duh whole goddamn layout ... right deh on duh map. ... I was down in Red hook just last last night," he says... I says, "You stay away from deh." ... he says, "What's wrong wit it?" ... "Oh nuttin'. Yuh might get lost down deh dat's all." ... he says, "... I wouldn't get lost. I got a map..." ... duh guy asks me ... how long would it take a guy to know duh place ... "You ain't neveh gonna get to know Brooklyn," I says. "Not in a hunderd yeahs." ... he says, "but I got a map to help me find my way..." "Map or no map ... yuh ain't gonna get to know Brooklyn with no map, " says. ... I've t'ought about dat guy a t'ousand times since ... Walkin' ... t'roo Red Hook ... an lookin' at his map! I wondeh ... if he's still wanderin' aroun' in duh subway ... wit his little map! ... It'd take a guy a lifetime to know Brooklyn t'roo an' t'roo. An even den, yuh wouldn't know it all. - from "Only The Dead Know Brooklyn" Thomas Wolfe (1936) |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat May 28 01:07:47 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 27 18:13:26 2016. Also the post-9/11 routing to Forest Hills.Best Q train caused by the most depressing reason ever... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 28 11:22:30 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by R30A on Fri May 27 20:39:24 2016. I remember that. At times the Manhattan Bridge was completely closed to all subway trains, so Q trains ran via tunnel and express up Broadway. I rode on one such train, an R-68 consist with the half cab facing out on one of the lead motors. Great RFW view! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 28 12:24:29 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat May 28 01:07:47 2016. true,indeed.Makes you wonder why it wasnt continued. Much better than the present R service. It sucks. Why shouldn't the R be moved to 96th st when it opens? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 28 12:32:37 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri May 27 13:05:34 2016. "Speed", one of my favorite movies. Sandra Bullock looked great "driving" that fishbowl. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat May 28 14:24:38 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Edwards! on Sat May 28 12:24:29 2016. Why shouldn't the R be moved to 96th st when it opens?SAS has to be from the express tracks, so it makes little sense to have the Q and R swap tracks at 42nd St for this to work. N to 96th St, Q to Queens, and R to Astoria could work except for the whole "no yard" problem for the R... |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat May 28 15:01:50 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by TransitChuckG on Sat May 28 12:32:37 2016. IAWTP!chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat May 28 17:27:20 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by zac on Fri May 27 16:43:04 2016. Yes, they had 1948 maps up for decades. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat May 28 21:44:28 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat May 28 14:24:38 2016. A result of the incompetence of the MTA planners in not also connecting the local tracks at 57 St with the 63 St Line especially since the physical infrastructure is there for it! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sun May 29 01:21:45 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by italianstallion on Sat May 28 17:27:20 2016. I remember seeing them too. After they started removing the maps, I was able to buy one from the TA at 370 Jay for under $10. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 29 19:15:34 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by randyo on Sat May 28 21:44:28 2016. There are no impediments to doing so in the southbound direction, at least. I think there's some buildings in the way of the northbound trackway, though. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 29 19:45:04 2016, in response to Re: The SAS is here, sorta, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun May 29 19:15:34 2016. If that are there, they were put there recently and can and should removed. |
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