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Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016

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Tens of thousands of dollars in contributions were donated to the Trolley Museum of New York over a period of who knows how many years, and this is the result, illustrated below.
Now, they’ve brought up a PATH car and want to spend 60k on a structure just for that car. And what about that wooden BMT Q? Let it rot under the tarp!
We were told electrification would cost 50k. So that comes last? Maybe they have hidden funds. Or they expect more grants. A misallocation of priorities and resources seems to be written policy into TMNY’s Charter. There is no other way to explain these pictures. One thing is certain: donating money to TMNY is much like flushing it down the toilet.

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WHITCOMB DIESEL
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PCC 1000?
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THE NEVER FINISHED R-16 SIDE PANELS
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AND R-16 BATTERY
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AND NOW THE TROLLEYS AT TMNY:
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In this photo below, TMNY has a trolley that runs on a gas engine of some sort or another, and they couldn’t find a simple mechanic to fix just this one thing.
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That’s the shower stall behind the plywood to the left of the trolley.
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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by The silence on Fri Jan 1 07:29:07 2016, in response to Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016.

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For the past few days, you've shown nothing but petty additude. You still expect us to believe you're the wronged party after all this?

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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:44:23 2016, in response to Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by The silence on Fri Jan 1 07:29:07 2016.

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Petty attitude is a two way street, but you're only looking in one direction as you cross...

A postscript to those pictures: they were all taken during one of my volunteering trips in 2014.

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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by chud1 on Fri Jan 1 08:17:47 2016, in response to Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016.

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5 drooling stars out of 5 droolig stars for these pictures.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Dave on Fri Jan 1 13:54:58 2016, in response to Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016.

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How about taking your pissing party off line?

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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 1 14:51:15 2016, in response to Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016.

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Damn son...
Is it that serious for you?

Is this some ploy to discredit the place...
Come on man...all this does is make you look like a spiteful evil vindictive person.

Why dont you chill with the smear war..

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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 16:11:30 2016, in response to Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by The silence on Fri Jan 1 07:29:07 2016.

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He's a pathetic loser who was kicked out of the group. Now he's trying to hurt them. I've already spoken to Mike Hanna about him. All he does is look for someone to listen and keeps talking and taking. Autism at its finest.

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Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 16:13:53 2016, in response to Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016.

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Grow the fuck up. You were kicked out of the museum. Stop trying to make yourself out to be the victim. As a matter of fact, I am sending in a donation to the museum as we speak.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 17:23:16 2016, in response to Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 16:13:53 2016.

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What is your name?

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 18:24:53 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 17:23:16 2016.

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Fuck you, that's my name. Things didn't go your way, so you resort to this? You're a pathetic loser. It's no wonder you were kicked out of there. You had no issue with any of this stuff when you were there. Now it's a problem? Fucking hypocrite.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 19:04:32 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 18:24:53 2016.

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I have finally figured out who you are: Arjun Lal. Here is how I know it is you:

You used my Facebook name, which you would not have known unless you were part of the volunteering group. Further, you display familiarity with my doings up there, which you would not possess unless you were up there with us.

Second, it was YOU who initially broke the misinformation last week with the false allegation of theft. That means you had to be part of the “secret-secret” volunteering page, because that is where this allegation was made in July. They were only a small group. Nobody else was privy to that accusation. Publicly proclaiming false accusations such as this exposes you to tort liablity.

Third, I compared your previous written statements here with my memories and knowledge of each other member of the group. Having done so, it was immediately clear to me that, from your writing style and affect, your profile perfectly matches Arjun’s. His weak, immature and hypersensitive character matches your writing style, as does your penchant for making false statements.

You never contacted Mike Hanna. That is a demonstrably false statement. Mika Hanna doesn’t give out his personal information to foamers, much less conquestors, and he does not go online.

If in fact you contributed to TMNY, there will be publicly accessible records on file containing this information . TMNY is a non-profit, and its lists of contributors are to be made available for public disclosure.


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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 19:32:27 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 19:04:32 2016.

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Incorrect. Let's face it, Arjun isn't smart enough to post here. Try again, Bobby.

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Re: non profit donors

Posted by Evan on Fri Jan 1 19:42:09 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 19:04:32 2016.

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Only private foundations and political organizations may be required to list their donors. TMNY being a public non-profit has no such requirement. Even Schedule B of form 990, which lists significant donors, is kept confidential by federal law.

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Re: non profit donors

Posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 19:52:14 2016, in response to Re: non profit donors, posted by Evan on Fri Jan 1 19:42:09 2016.

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Evan, don't feel into this idiots bullshit. Just look and him as you'll know he isn't quite right in the head.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Strike_Mark on Fri Jan 1 19:57:51 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 19:04:32 2016.

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Lol, what a clueless nitwit!

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Re: non profit donors

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 20:11:14 2016, in response to Re: non profit donors, posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 19:52:14 2016.

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Let's have a look at you. Pic?

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by arli3835 on Fri Jan 1 21:20:18 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 19:04:32 2016.

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While I agree that TMNY is a nearly-irreperable mess, you're not much better Robert. If you truly cared about the cars, you wouldn't do this. This just leads to them getting scrapped.

I'm not sure why you have such an obsession with Arjun Lal. Yes, he is not an innocent person and has participated in numerous questionable actions, but you need to hop off of his dick.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 21:39:09 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by arli3835 on Fri Jan 1 21:20:18 2016.

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It is obvious that priya12 is Arjun, this is not even debatable. He was the one who first raised the fake stealing charge and then plastered my name all over the place. He did the same thing with Brian Camacho, he went on the guy's Twitter feed and plastered that here. Lal has that immature trait. If he goes around repeating lies and then pinning my name in public to those lies, then I know how to respond.


There is no chance of those cars ever getting scrapped. If it came down to that choice, they will simply be transported to NYC. Best thing that could ever happen to them.




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Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jan 1 21:46:28 2016, in response to Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 07:22:40 2016.

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Where are these guys the rest of the year? Why must you air out your dirty museum laundry here? Someone strike up the 76th Street Orchestra and drown them out!

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 21:46:30 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 21:39:09 2016.

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You're a terrible detective, Bobby.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 22:04:13 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by priya12 on Fri Jan 1 21:46:30 2016.

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Yeah, I don't think so. You gave yourself away with your first post last week, and the more you wrote, the more obvious it became to me that you are Arjun Lal.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 1 22:13:20 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 22:04:13 2016.

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I hope you guys realize, that with all this silliness, you're just making more of us all that more determined to sign up at TMNY to help out and reach into our pockets. You're defeating your own purpose with all this.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 22:14:10 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 1 22:13:20 2016.

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Fine, go ahead.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by arli3835 on Fri Jan 1 23:23:58 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Fri Jan 1 21:39:09 2016.

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So far, you've just posted circumstantial evidence with no proof whatsoever. I have seen Arjun's style of writing, it is nowhere near as sophisticated.

Robert, just quit while you're ahead, or MORE museums will also disinvite you from their activities...

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TMNYbots

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 1 23:38:12 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 1 22:13:20 2016.

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Maybe it's reverse psychology

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Re: TMNYbots

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 00:09:13 2016, in response to TMNYbots, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 1 23:38:12 2016.

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I know a few in Kingston, and no ... this isn't how they play.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 02:27:41 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by arli3835 on Fri Jan 1 23:23:58 2016.

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That's no problem! I am finished with volunteering, especially with the railfan community. I had no idea railfans were this kind of folk. I went to TMNY because I like subway cars and trolleys as it is one of my hobbies. That was why I contributed time out of my day and money out of my pocket and look at the thanks I got: slandered as a thief, and then had my full name plastered all over the place as a thief by this priya12. (Oh, btw, priya, Arjun and Lal are all Indian names. Cirumstantial? Ok. It's enough.) priya12's writing closely resembles what Arjun talked like.

This site's webmaster will also be held to account for not taking down the allegations of thievery associating it to my name. You can put up opinions and call each other names, but making accusations of criminality? Terrapin Station allows things like this to be published?



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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 02:42:53 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 02:27:41 2016.

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FWIW, you get to see what foamers are like pretty much every day here. :(

An ungrateful lot, and for the peace and sanity of those who have to RUN those trains, they got their window taken away. :)

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 02:58:07 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 2 02:42:53 2016.

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Yes, I have noticed that. When I started riding the nostalgia trains, I did not understand why the crews were always aloof. Now I do.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 2 08:50:13 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 02:27:41 2016.

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This kind of stuff is what brought down the old SubTalk back in the day.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by AlM on Sat Jan 2 09:55:22 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 2 08:50:13 2016.

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Yes, but Dave Pirman had a higher anxiety level about it. I don't think Larry has to worry about a libel suit directed against him, even though Dave Pirman did worry. And if Larry did worry, he could make this thread disappear without a trace.





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Re:ef

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 2 11:19:07 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 2 08:50:13 2016.

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Maybe having an OTTalk board might have saved it.

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Re:ef

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 2 12:27:30 2016, in response to Re:ef, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jan 2 11:19:07 2016.

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Maybe.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 12:52:54 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 02:27:41 2016.

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Stop blaming the regular posters and webmaster here! What REALLY pissed me off about you spineless losers is that you chose Christmas Day to launch your venom. Really, that's all you have to do on Christmas Day, no matter what you may believe in? You made your arguments and showed us your pics. Isn't it time for you to leave us alone?

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 2 13:26:10 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 12:52:54 2016.

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Fully argreed upon.
This nonsense is stupid beyong the usual stupid that goes on here.
Its Seriously time for it to come to an end...before someone gets hurt over it.
Yes..it can happen.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 14:03:07 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 2 13:26:10 2016.

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Hurt? These pathetic losers are too afraid to settle this like real men.
They were probably home alone on Christmas Day, so, after their take-out meals or Christmas TV dinners, they decided to e-mud each other. Trouble is, they chose this site because it allows such nonsense!

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 2 15:51:54 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 14:03:07 2016.

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It a crying shame,too.



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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 19:07:37 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 12:52:54 2016.

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WTF DOES CHRISTMAS DAY HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING????? WHY IS CHRISTMAS DAY MORE SPECIAL THAN ANY OTHER DAY?????

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 19:12:30 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 02:27:41 2016.

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Terrapin Station allows things like this to be published?
Sadly, I do, especially if it is a true story.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 2 20:13:08 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 19:12:30 2016.

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So, you do actually admit that you administer this site?

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 20:41:37 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 19:12:30 2016.

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Wait a minute, let me be clear here: you consider their allegations against me a true stiry?

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 21:07:41 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 19:07:37 2016.

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For some of us it is a holy day. Just like the ones that you have- and I respect!

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jan 2 21:17:34 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 21:07:41 2016.

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he has sunk to a new low of sleaze.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Jan 2 21:17:41 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jan 2 21:07:41 2016.

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he has sunk to a new low of sleaze.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by AlM on Sat Jan 2 21:35:24 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 2 20:13:08 2016.

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Read carefully. He didn't admit or claim anything of the sort.



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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 21:58:14 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 20:41:37 2016.

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Wait a minute, let me be clear here: you consider their allegations against me a true stiry?
No, I consider this a true STORY, which is what you were referring to:

You were kicked out of the museum.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 21:58:58 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 2 20:13:08 2016.

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What do you mean by "actually" and "admit" and "administer"?

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 21:59:15 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by AlM on Sat Jan 2 21:35:24 2016.

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I said stuff.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 22:07:28 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by AlM on Sat Jan 2 21:35:24 2016.

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He used the qualifying statement "especially if they're true" in the same sentence when answering my question. That is a very suggestive sentence when written that way, ripe with implications. Explain what you mean by that statement, Terrapin Station. If you have formed judgments (or not formed them), make yourself clear.

Remember, McGinty posted here that the president gave me keys but that I was not "forthcoming" to HIM about that. That is NOT theft. He also didn't mention that pantywaist conquestor Arjun Lal (priya12) as having taken his own keys from the office without knowledge of the president, and that ALL museum keys were in the office. And I have other evidence that McGinty was aware of me not stealing keys. Yet, here I see my name tarnished. Not Arjun Lal, possessor of other transit property, and keeper of his mommy's 9pm curfew in her basement (he told me that personally while we were up there). He is still part of that group though. That is the same bs mentality that led to the equipment up there being what it is now. You wanna donate there? Feel free to waste your money. I am THROUGH with TMNY. But please remove my name from the subject lines of the threads.

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Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY

Posted by ren on Sat Jan 2 22:13:41 2016, in response to Re: Robert Edward Nowakowski (Re: Pictures from TMNY, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 2 21:58:14 2016.

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Even that is not true. I was disinvited out of their stupid group, never kicked out of the museum. I left the museum with the others on my own. I can visit the museum anytime I wish, if I wanted to (I no longer care to), Mike Hanna himself told me that a few weeks ago during the Shopper's Special.

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