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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:24:52 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 25 18:50:02 2015.

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Fun fact: There have been thousands of studies of acupuncture.

Collectively, they prove it's a complete sham with no effect whatsoever. However, there have been so many studies done that some of them show acupuncture as being effective by chance alone.

After all, if you compare Treatment X with a placebo, even if Treatment X is completely ineffective, there is a small chance that the experimental group will do better than the placebo group by random chance. In a well-designed experiment, the odds of such a fluke are low— but if you repeat the experiment enough times, those low chances add up.

Because acupuncture is so over-studied, you can easily find one or two studies which contain such a fluke to "prove" it's effective even though it clearly isn't.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:29:52 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 25 18:59:53 2015.

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Placebos don't work— that's sort of the point.

You use a placebo which you know doesn't work to control for biases, such as people changing their habits because they're in an experiment or people reporting improvement of subjective symptoms to meet perceived expectations that they "should" be getting better or experimenters judging subjective symptoms based on their own belief that the treatment "should" be working, or some aspect of the experimental procedure creating a confounding variable (eg, the extensive monitoring of test subjects has an effect on their condition independent of the thing being studied).

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:31:41 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 09:33:25 2015.

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You don't know ESP is bullshit, you believe that it is.


And who has claimed Randi's million dollars?

ESP is bullshit and this fact is obvious. Facts are not subject to belief.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:33:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:51:42 2015.

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There could well be aliens that have visited Earth but are good at hiding from the public but not that good.

It's really not that plausible. Space is big— whatever alien life may exist is hundreds or thousands or millions of light years away and manned interstellar travel is likely impossible.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:34:52 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 12:03:19 2015.

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Sleep paralysis is a really funky thing.

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:35:43 2015, in response to BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:08:39 2015.

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Hey, it's less insane than believing the Second Avenue Subway will ever be completed.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Dec 2 05:56:07 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 1 20:06:19 2015.

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Off topic , but many years ago on two nights in a row, I had a dream I drove a city bus at least three blocks. I pulled over ,picked up passengers, the whole deal.

In my 73 years this earth, I have never driven a bus.


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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 09:44:52 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:29:52 2015.

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I thought that psychological effects were real. If not, then I stand corrected.

See, when someone posts something convincingly scientific, I change my mind. Pseudoscience doesn't change my mind.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 09:46:27 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:33:34 2015.

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It's more plausible than some of the claims of paranormal phenomena, that's not saying much, though.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 2 12:25:46 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:51:42 2015.

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I've been interested in these UFO stories for awhile and I do believe in the sightings of UFO's made by professional's ....... police chasing glowing disc's over county lines at night in all kinds of weather removing that they were chasing Venus or the Moon, millions of people around the world can't all be having hallucinations in describing some of these objects cruising at high speeds and suddenly making ninety degree turns or stopping and hovering. Karl

One case I do believe in is the Japan flight 1628 over Alaska :

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread444757/pg1

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 16:43:22 2015, in response to Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:35:43 2015.

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Good one!


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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 17:55:46 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:00:50 2015.

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I don't agree that ESP and psychic powers have been debunked, although I would agree that the vast majority of those who claim psychic powers are charletons who are just profiteering off gullible individuals.

If all of them were crooks, how do you explain the fact that many police departments employ the use of psychics to find missing people. They must be producing some results.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 17:58:17 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Dec 2 05:56:07 2015.

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No one said that all dreams are prophetic and dreams usually represent symbolism anyway, so driving a bus could have represented something else entirely.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:01:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:01:48 2015.

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In your opinion alliens do not exist. No one said they are living on Earth. That I don't believe. My analogy does not fail.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:09:25 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:07:29 2015.

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If you want to find out about specific cases, I am sure you can look them up if you make the effort. Years ago there was one thing called research which required time and effort. Today people are lazy and all they want is instant gratification. They press a button called Google, or Wickipedia, and they assume if Google doesn't have it or Wickipedia doesn't have it, it never happened. If I was really interested in this subject which I am not, I would spend the time to do real research.

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:11:28 2015, in response to BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:08:39 2015.

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That is the exact reason why people are afraid to come forward and do it only after they have nothing to lose.

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:13:40 2015, in response to BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:08:39 2015.

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Peoplenwho once insisted the world was round instead of square were also once thought insane.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:16:35 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 30 18:57:52 2015.

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There have just been too many cases and it has been going on for like thousands of years. It just can't be dismissed.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:21:16 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:24:52 2015.

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I once had sciatica for three months and underwent no treatment. The next time I had it, I underwent acupuncture and the scatica went away in two months, so I believe it did help somewhat. Also, when I asked the therapist how many visits it will take, she said 12. and the pain did go away after 12 visits. So I don't believe it is a sham.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:23:44 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 1 06:51:12 2015.

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And what did I say about the phones needing power and what was I wrong about?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:29:06 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 09:30:32 2015.

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I did ask what a CO was before and you responded I was clueless. It may have not been phrased in tere form of a question but my intent was clear somdont lie now and say I never asked before yesterday. You and Terrapin have been totally insulting in this thread.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:30:23 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:21:32 2015.

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I do have many friends here. They are writing to me privately. They just don't want to deal with you two.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:39:04 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 17:55:46 2015.

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I find police departments using psychics to be an outrage. Anyone responsible for such a horrible thing should be fired immediately. It is a waste of the taxpayers' money and wastes resources that could be used on actually solving crimes.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:39:05 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:50:14 2015.

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Really? REALLY? Is that you professional opinion? Can you name five things that BrooklynBus has spoken intelligently about? Because SheepsheadBites seemingly disagrees and they fired him. The TA seemingly disagrees as he didn't last long as the "head of Bus Planning" after such a supposedly promising start to his career. Surely he's never spoken intelligently about dirt roads, as he has been amazed to see so many of them out west. Surely he's never spoken intelligently about the installation of bus stop signs, as he was confused about who installs them. I can go on and on. I've read many of his posts. Have you? Can YOU say anything intelligent and accurate about BrooklynBus's posting history here? If not, then why are you acting all high and mighty like you know what's going on here? Because you clearly don't. Here's an idea - why don't you try reading this thread from the VERY BEGINNING and see what really happened? I mean, don't you find it at least a little bit odd that no respected long-time members of this forum are rushing to BrooklynBus's defense? That should tell you something.

You don't know why I was let go from Sheepsheadbites because I do not even know.

I previously explained why I was transferred from Planning, and if you do not want to believe it, that is your problem, not milne.

Stating I was surpised to see so any dirt roads out west makes me ignorant. It does not make me unintelligent. You apparently do not even know the definition of those two words. How intelligent does that make you?

And how was I confused about who installs bus stop signs? I have always maintained it was DOT.

And Larry, thank you for trying to help me and I understand your reasons for not wanting to participate with these clowns.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:40:03 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:01:34 2015.

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Yes it does fail. You claim they have visited Earth.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:40:34 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:50:14 2015.

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Ignore previous post. Error in italucs

Really? REALLY? Is that you professional opinion? Can you name five things that BrooklynBus has spoken intelligently about? Because SheepsheadBites seemingly disagrees and they fired him. The TA seemingly disagrees as he didn't last long as the "head of Bus Planning" after such a supposedly promising start to his career. Surely he's never spoken intelligently about dirt roads, as he has been amazed to see so many of them out west. Surely he's never spoken intelligently about the installation of bus stop signs, as he was confused about who installs them. I can go on and on. I've read many of his posts. Have you? Can YOU say anything intelligent and accurate about BrooklynBus's posting history here? If not, then why are you acting all high and mighty like you know what's going on here? Because you clearly don't. Here's an idea - why don't you try reading this thread from the VERY BEGINNING and see what really happened? I mean, don't you find it at least a little bit odd that no respected long-time members of this forum are rushing to BrooklynBus's defense? That should tell you something.

You don't know why I was let go from Sheepsheadbites because I do not even know.

I previously explained why I was transferred from Planning, and if you do not want to believe it, that is your problem, not milne.

Stating I was surpised to see so any dirt roads out west makes me ignorant. It does not make me unintelligent. You apparently do not even know the definition of those two words. How intelligent does that make you?

And how was I confused about who installs bus stop signs? I have always maintained it was DOT.

And Larry, thank you for trying to help me and I understand your reasons for not wanting to participate with these clowns.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:41:37 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:09:25 2015.

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I have no interest in researching specific cases. These pseudosciences have already been thoroughly debunked. Until such time as a legitimate scientist reopens the issue, I can safely ignore any paranormal claims.

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:41:53 2015, in response to Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:11:28 2015.

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LOL!

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Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:42:22 2015, in response to Re: BrooklynBus actually believes in alien abductions, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:13:40 2015.

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No, they weren't. Give one example of this. You'll find none.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:42:49 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 08:20:23 2015.

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I did ask although it might not have been in a question form. My intent was clear thatt I wanted to know what CO meant.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:43:48 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:16:35 2015.

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That is bullshit. Alien abductions only go back as far as humans have known more about space. Before that, people believed in succubi and incubi.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:44:11 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:21:16 2015.

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Correlation doesn't imply causation.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:47:05 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:30:23 2015.

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Although I have been unnecessarily rude, people who support you despite your admission that you believe in aliens are inherently disreputable. I don't need the respect of fools. I am respected by the smart people here.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 2 18:47:40 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:39:04 2015.

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Is it possible that some psychics are actually clever interrogators? They ask questions and notice body language and other things about the responder that the average detective doesn't notice? They might not even be aware of their technique.





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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:54:32 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:42:49 2015.

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Looks like I was right. You first asked what a CO was on November 29. I did initially laugh because you had been discussing the issue up until that point as if you know, and then you admitted that you didn't. I did answer you within about 1 day of that, so that's not much of an issue.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 2 19:22:02 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 2 02:33:34 2015.

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Well for us Earthlings yes it is, but for more advanced intelligent and far advanced civilizations it's as common as our flights from one continent to another, and whatever propulsion systems they may have we are still decades if not further away. Karl

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 2 19:26:35 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 2 19:22:02 2015.

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So you think the Special Theory of Relativity is wrong?



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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 2 22:08:05 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 1 22:07:29 2015.

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LOL!
As someone who makes a pretty decent living on making this stuff appear REAL,shame on you for casting aspirations upon his well thought out
Synopsis.
You,on the other hand,have shown a not so rare talent for heaving large ammounts of bullshit mixed with hypocrisy.
Its a damn shame,how social media,and all of it pigs managed to become so critical of others and their beliefs only
Just because They are too stupid to understand it.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 2 22:18:45 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 00:25:41 2015.

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Yet..,You believe in the God.
You believe in the Sabbath,
Something Pigs pokes fun at,being the extremely liberal he is.
FUNNY how that simple notion,make your whole IAWtP somewhat foolish.

But then again,you haven't been known for substance,have you...more like the annoying fly in the room that keeps coming back no matter how much you swat at it.
Bzzzzz.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Wed Dec 2 22:28:15 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 1 21:46:34 2015.

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This post is just as funny and hilarious as watching "Airplane".

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 2 22:31:18 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 08:50:14 2015.

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Anyone with a shread of common sense would see your Whole post as bullshit.
You are a plague here.
Period.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Dec 2 22:33:14 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Dec 1 09:22:32 2015.

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You are a disgrace to your kind.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Wed Dec 2 22:38:52 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 2 19:26:35 2015.

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Any superior intelligent species who has most likely millions of years of technology has found solutions to do whatever it takes to visit other planets and solar systems, Einstein most likely wasn't the only genius in the universe as evidence to these objects seen by millions of people all around the world. Karl

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:45:03 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:09:25 2015.

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You have NO idea how the internet works. Ask a 6 year-old to show you sometime.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:47:12 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:23:44 2015.

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You said they would keep working because they don't need Con Ed power. You were wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!! GdDAMIT WHY AR YOU SO DENSE AND WHY CAN'T YOU FOLLOW A THREAD WITHOUT GETTING LOST!?!?!?!?!?

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:47:44 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:29:06 2015.

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Nope. You were just wrong. Plain wrong. Dead wrong. Ding dong.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:48:08 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:47:05 2015.

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Great post!!!!!!!

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:48:47 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:30:23 2015.

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I call shens. And if anyone from here is writing to you in support of you, they are most likely not so bright, just like you.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:54:56 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Dec 2 18:40:34 2015.

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"You don't know why I was let go from Sheepsheadbites because I do not even know."

LOL! I'll give you 5 guesses.

"I previously explained why I was transferred from Planning, and if you do not want to believe it, that is your problem, not milne."

You're not trustworthy with facts, so of course we won't believe you. And that's your problem, not mine. You're the one with the problem with facts. Besides, the reason you gave is pretty dumb.

"Stating I was surpised to see so any dirt roads out west makes me ignorant. It does not make me unintelligent."

Wrong, it makes you dumb for admitting your ignorance in public. Whenever I realize that I'm ignorant about something, I have enough intelligence NOT to tell everyone that I am ignorant!!!!

"And how was I confused about who installs bus stop signs? I have always maintained it was DOT."

You asked if it was CEMAUSA and then when told it was not, you said that's what you thought but you wanted to be sure. So why bother asking then

"And Larry, thank you for trying to help me and I understand your reasons for not wanting to participate with these clowns."

We all understand his reasons. It's just that we also know that his reasons are stupid and wrong.

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Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 2 23:55:24 2015, in response to Re: Today is fifty years since the big northeast blackout, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 2 18:54:32 2015.

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