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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 24 14:29:32 2015, in response to Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 22 08:36:57 2015. Thanks, everybody, for your help! |
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Posted by BMRR on Tue Nov 24 14:38:35 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Tue Nov 24 07:13:34 2015. Stef,Thanks for the info! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Nov 24 15:33:50 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 03:24:00 2015. Back in the early 1990s, during an MTA financial crisis (real or imagined, take your choice) there was a proposal to tun the Brighton exp from 207 St to Stl via 6 Ave and the Manny B and eliminate the Wash Hts 8 Av Exp. Although the train should more properly have been called either a B or Q the MTA planned to call the service the “A” since the line had achieved so much popularity due to the Strayhorn/Ellington tune that it would be unthinkable to do away with the A train even though the line would be technically mislabeled. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 15:44:26 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 24 15:33:50 2015. Orange A? |
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Posted by Stef on Tue Nov 24 16:46:41 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 24 15:33:50 2015. And that would explain the Orange A Route Bullet found on the R110B's signage....-Stef |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 16:55:59 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 24 15:33:50 2015. No sense of history, that would be like making the LIRR run from Brooklyn to Speonk and about as useful. :( |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 20:23:25 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Tue Nov 24 02:46:38 2015. Those old timers can still howl ass up CPW. I personally witnessed this on July 29, 2012 and their revenue run as an Abbott in May 2013 is the single BEST video clip of a CPW express DASH ever captured! They covered it in 6:07.Love those old timers! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 20:25:11 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Tue Nov 24 12:13:14 2015. All operable cars present and accounted for? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 20:26:01 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Nov 24 02:35:56 2015. Nah, Broadway.:) |
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Posted by Stef on Tue Nov 24 21:05:36 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 24 20:25:11 2015. !!!Should be interesting, especially with the Gift Shop in place at 2nd Avenue. -Stef |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 25 05:46:59 2015, in response to Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 22 08:36:57 2015. Nope. They were all canceled as part of the anti-railfan conspiracy to make the subway boring.If you don't believe me, then why are all the RFWs gone? And why are all the side windows painted black? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 25 05:47:37 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 Christmas season, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 23 10:46:17 2015. Dude, weren't you the Jewish supremacist?Now you're going the "it's a Christian nation" route? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 25 05:49:25 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 Holiday season, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 23 12:22:04 2015. I believe you were informed some time ago that my entire extended family and everyone I knew growing up exchanged gifts for Chanukah. You responded by declaring that this didn't count for poorly articulated reasons. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 25 05:52:12 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 Holiday season, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Nov 23 12:20:01 2015. Spider-Pig got this notion into his head that Chanukah presents don't count because he has arbitrarily decided to define them as "Christmas presents." Everyone I know who is Jewish but not miserably Orthodox exchanges Chaunukah presents, and that's across five radically different countries. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 25 10:45:40 2015, in response to Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Nov 22 08:36:57 2015. Note the Triplex...MTA New York City Transit, NY Transit Museum Ring in Holidays with Vintage Buses, Subways MTA New York City Transit, NY Transit Museum Ring in Holidays with Vintage Buses, SubwaysNovember 25th, 2015MTA New York City Transit and the New York Transit Museum are putting extra magic on the tracks with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s annual holiday tradition of rides to the past via its vintage fleet of buses and subway trains – and the chance for transit fans to buy museum merchandise at a special station pop-up shop. The holiday nostalgia fleet includes subway cars from the 1930s and buses from the late 1940s to the 1980s. The New York Transit Museum typically displays these vehicles during special events at the museum or around the city, but are offering these holiday nostalgia rides to the public for a limited time with the swipe of a MetroCard. Some vintage buses also will be on display at Union Square, Herald Square and at the Circle Line Terminal. For four consecutive Sundays in December, subway customers can catch the “Shoppers Special,” a train consisting of eight cars from the 1930s that ran along the lettered lines until the late 1970s. The cars, which were ordered for the Independent Subway System (IND), were the first subway cars to be identified by their contract numbers, hence the R1/9 designations. R1/9 cars, known as ““City-Cars,” have rattan seats, ceiling fans, incandescent light bulbs, and roll signs for passenger information. Their design of more doors that were also wider and faster, plus increased standing capacity to accommodate crowds, served as the model of modern subway cars, and their dimensions are identical to the latest R160 cars. They were retired from service in 1977. “For all intents and purposes, this was the first modern subway car and today’s subway fleets owe a lot to the design,” said Joe Leader, Senior Vice President of Subways. “They were basic, durable and offered the expected levels of customer comfort for decades after they were introduced into service. We continue to build upon this strong foundation with each new car design.” The “Shoppers Special” will run from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on December 6, 13, 20, and 27, making local stops on the 6 Av Line from Queens Plaza to 2 Av. The first run of the day departs from 2 Av, where a special museum pop-up shop will be open every Sunday during the holiday nostalgia rides. MTA NYC Transit is also putting a fleet of vintage buses on the M42 route for weekday daytime service between November 30 and December 18. The buses, which will operate between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., will only be available weather permitting. The vintage fleet will not operate in rainy, snowy or icy conditions. This year’s holiday nostalgia buses were manufactured by General Motors, Mack and Flexible, three major firms that no longer manufacture buses. “Seeing these vintage buses in service again is always a nostalgic event for many New Yorkers. My father and I drove some of these buses, which makes this an especially personal event for me,” said Darryl Irick, President of MTA Bus Company and Senior Vice President New York City Transit Department of Buses. “Each holiday season we offer a look back into the past with a holiday ride across 42nd Street.” VINTAGE FLEET HIGHLIGHTS: Subway Car No. 100: Manufactured by American Car & Foundry, this R1-type car was the first car in the initial order of 300 placed in service for the opening of the IND subway. Subway Car No. 484: Part of a 500-car order of R4 cars manufactured by American Car & Foundry. In 1946, this car received a retrofit of bulls-eye lighting and a public address system. Subway Car No. 1575: Originally manufactured as an R7, this car was sent to the American Car & Foundry factory and rebuilt as prototype of the next generation R10 subway car. Subway Car No. 6095: In 1925, the Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Corporation (BMT) introduced a three-car articulated unit called the D-Type Triplex. The design meant passengers could walk from one car to another in the unit through an enclosed passageway. They carried more passengers and had fewer moving parts, making them efficient and easier to maintain. Bus No. 2969: Manufactured by General Motors, this model TDH 5101 was specifically designed in 1949 for New York City. It features a double-width front door to expedite the loading and unloading of customers. This bus is known as the Jackie Gleason bus, as it is similar in style to the bus operated by Gleason’s character, Ralph Kramden, on the television show “The Honeymooners.” Bus No. 3100: Manufactured by General Motors in 1956, this model TDH 5106 was the first air-conditioned transit bus to operate in New York City. It had push-type rear exit doors, wrap-around rear soft seating, fluorescent lighting, and the air-ride suspension that is the standard on modern transit buses. Bus No. 6259: Manufactured by Mack Truck and Bus Company, model C49DT arrived to the fleet in 1956 and was in operation until 1969 in Staten Island and Brooklyn routes. The “DT’ in the model number stands for “Diesel Transit.” This model was delivered with cushioned seating but converted to hard plastic in the 1960s because of vandalism. Bus No. 9098: Manufactured by General Motors, this model TDH 5106 introduced the two-tone green color scheme of this era’s standard and was the first New York City bus equipped with sliding windows. These buses were the last order of “Old Look” style buses from GM for New York City Transit. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 25 10:54:08 2015, in response to UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 25 10:45:40 2015. Doesn't make sense. The article says the train will be 8 Arnines but the list at the bottom includes 3 arnines and 1 triplex which is only four. Even if they meant each section of the triplex as a car that still only equals six. I'm willing to bet it's the same as all the other years, at least I hope so. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 25 10:56:38 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 25 10:54:08 2015. The MTA is not known for providing effective communications. I suspect that the Triplex will be part of the program somehow this year, in a manner that makes logical operational sense. DJjazzyHammers was dropping hint-bombs a while back. |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 11:14:26 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Nov 25 10:56:38 2015. Me thinks the Triplex will probably be the designated GIFT SHOP at 2nd Av. It would stay behind while the 9's do their runs to Queens Plaza.While they list 6095 here, it could be a typo of sorts. 6112 has the modified electric portion for compatibility with the 9's. Unless there's some other plan in the works, 6112 will probably be out there. It seems to make some sense with the planned activities. The only other question I have is will the 9's be a shorter train? I'm unable to determine that. I envision seven 60 foot cars instead of the usual 8 as the D type would likely be part of the move from 207th St to 2nd Av. Doing some math --- 8 60 foot R9's plus 1 137 foot D type = 617 feet, 17 feet longer than a regular 600 foot revenue train; 7 60 foot R9's plus 1 137 foot D Type = 557 feet, would make the platform with no issue. Anyone else who knows more about this is welcome to chime in, as I am merely offering an opinion at this point. -Stef |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Nov 25 13:03:37 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 11:14:26 2015. The platform at 2ave is over 650 feet long. |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 13:07:20 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Nov 25 13:03:37 2015. Thanks for that clarification, my question was if the train would foul signals or switches at 2nd Av. You cleared that up!Cheers, Stef |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Nov 25 13:27:13 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 11:14:26 2015. I forget, but did 6095 receive those same modifications as well? Or was it just 6112? I noticed that on all trips and moves where the Triplexes and Arnines ran together, 6112 was always coupled directly to an Arnine.Just curious. |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 13:37:30 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Wed Nov 25 13:27:13 2015. The modification should only be on one end of 6112, IIRC.-Stef |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 16:08:16 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 24 15:44:26 2015. That’s what it would have been if the proposal had gone through. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 25 16:10:15 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 25 05:46:59 2015. What side windows are painted black? |
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Posted by collision post on Wed Nov 25 17:04:12 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 13:37:30 2015. Looks like freshly painted R9s for Sunday! The fake car (1575)is in the shop and only 1/2 painted! |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 17:24:39 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by collision post on Wed Nov 25 17:04:12 2015. Thank You for filling us in...So I'll stand by my previous thought. 7 R1/9's available for service plus 6112ABC. The RTO Supervisor in charge will take the whole train down to 2nd Av, and uncouple 6112ABC. Will be interesting to see... -Stef |
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Posted by BMRR on Wed Nov 25 18:39:13 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 17:24:39 2015. Stef,Is that for this Sunday only? |
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Posted by collision post on Wed Nov 25 18:39:28 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 17:24:39 2015. 1575 is blocking 6112. R9s look ready to go on 24 Track. |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 19:00:45 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by collision post on Wed Nov 25 18:39:28 2015. Change in plans for the gift shop? Guess we'll see Sunday.-Stef |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 19:05:40 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 19:00:45 2015. My bad, I'm getting my dates mixed up. D'oh!That should be....7 R1/9's available for the Billy Strayhorn Event. We'll see what happens when the Holiday Train runs for 12/6. -Stef |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 19:08:33 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by BMRR on Wed Nov 25 18:39:13 2015. I'm getting my dates mixed up! This youngster is having a Senior Moment??? Grr..That should be...7 R1/9's available minus 1575 for the Billy Strayhorn Event. After that, it'll be wait and see for the Holiday Train on 12/6. -Stef |
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Posted by jabrams on Wed Nov 25 23:09:12 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 25 10:54:08 2015. Slightly off topic, but how do passengers pay with metrocards on the vintage buses? |
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Posted by R32_3672 on Wed Nov 25 23:23:15 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by jabrams on Wed Nov 25 23:09:12 2015. the same way as any regular bus, they will have a farebox on them |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 26 09:15:32 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 25 10:54:08 2015. Doesn't make sense. The article says the train will be 8 Arnines but the list at the bottom includes 3 arnines and 1 triplex which is only four.The bottom says. "Vintage Fleet Highlights." I don't think it necessarily correlates to what will be running. |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Thu Nov 26 10:18:29 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by randyo on Tue Nov 24 15:33:50 2015. It did happen because of an asbestos problem. The (Q) ran R38s from 207th to Brooklyn. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 26 10:52:43 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 19:08:33 2015. I hope someone will be filming on the n/b platform at 81st as they race by. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 26 10:54:58 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by collision post on Wed Nov 25 17:04:12 2015. Poor old 1575 has been the butt of jokes for years. It's an R-10 wannabe. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 26 10:56:10 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by jabrams on Wed Nov 25 23:09:12 2015. Very carefully.:) |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 26 16:56:01 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by GojiMet86 on Thu Nov 26 10:18:29 2015. If I recall, at the time it did happen the trains were designated as Qs since it was only temporary. The MTA didn’t want to do away with the A on a permanent basis. The TA did something similar in the beginning of December 1962 when the 6 Av Line S/O 34/6 was compromised during the construction of the exp tunnels. No trains could be operated on 6 Av between 34/6 and W4 due to the subway infrastructure being weakened by blasting for the construction of the exp tunnels. The TA operated the 205 to Stl/Church via the 8 Av lcl as a DD which was a mislabel since while the train operated via 8 Av the signs clearly read “6 Ave Local.” To provide 6 Av service during rush hours a Concourse exp operated from Bed Pk to 34/6 as a “C” an again the trains were mislabeled since the signs read “8 Ave Express” even though the trains operated via 6 Ave. The AA/BB service patterns were reversed and the AA ran during rush hours while the BB ran during non rush, the exact opposite of the normal iND service patterns of the time. |
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Posted by Numbersix on Thu Nov 26 19:39:08 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Tue Nov 24 07:13:34 2015. There was a single R9 used as a gift shop parked at Brighton Beach in June. They'll probably try to squeeze it in on the same track as the holiday train for the foot traffic. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 26 23:19:37 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by randyo on Thu Nov 26 16:56:01 2015. Wasn't that due to a water main break? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Nov 27 14:01:35 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by randyo on Thu Nov 26 16:56:01 2015. The 1962 6 Av situation was due to a construction mishap during the construction of the 6 Av exp tracks. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Nov 27 14:14:04 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Numbersix on Thu Nov 26 19:39:08 2015. I doubt that the MTA would do that. It will probably keep the single museum shop car on the opposite track for safety reasons. |
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Posted by The Silence on Fri Nov 27 14:33:59 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Numbersix on Thu Nov 26 19:39:08 2015. judging by the wording of the article, it might be a D-Type. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 27 18:12:01 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Wed Nov 25 19:05:40 2015. Billy Strayhorn Event? |
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Posted by Stef on Sat Nov 28 01:56:46 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 27 18:12:01 2015. Billy Strayhorn would have turned 100 years old if he was still alive. 11/29 is his birthday."Take the A Train" should be on the Loudspeakers at WTC and 145. Very appropriate. -Stef |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sat Nov 28 08:00:26 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by Stef on Sat Nov 28 01:56:46 2015. :-)And thank you for your posts about the holiday train operations. |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Nov 28 16:54:05 2015, in response to Re: UPDATE --- Vintage subway cars for the 2015 holiday season, posted by jabrams on Wed Nov 25 23:09:12 2015. They were free last year. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Nov 29 22:44:42 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 Christmas season, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 23 18:54:16 2015. If that were true they'd run it on Saturdays... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 29 22:53:30 2015, in response to Re: Vintage subway cars for the 2015 Christmas season, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Nov 29 22:44:42 2015. Why? |
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