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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Sep 2 02:12:57 2015, in response to By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 20:14:31 2015. It's all fun and games until the wind stops blowing. Then it's time to choose between paying the Putin and firing up the gas turbines, or just not running trains. And as wind turbines have an availability factor of around 1/3rd or so, I'm not sure how that counts as being ahead of anything. |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 2 04:01:29 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by WillD on Wed Sep 2 02:12:57 2015. The Dutch have nice breezes and are really old hands at spinning vane technology. They can draw power from wind below 3 kmh. And some of their spinners are underwater. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 2 06:44:51 2015, in response to By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 20:14:31 2015. It is physically impossible for wind farms to power ANYTHING 100% of the time. They probably mean there is enough wind power generating capability to theoretically power the entire railroad system....when the wind is blowing. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 2 08:17:49 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 2 06:44:51 2015. Anything state-owned is powered by politicians' wind 100 percent of the time. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 2 13:14:13 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 2 06:44:51 2015. Wrong. What they mean is that based on how much wind actually blows and how much electricity is thus actually generated, the entire RR can be powered by wind. There's nothing theoretical. It's actual. They know how much electricity the wind farms generate on an average daily basis. That accounts for when the wind isn't blowing. |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 2 13:26:24 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by WillD on Wed Sep 2 02:12:57 2015. I think the Dutch will have a better recovery rate than the TA has with dynamic braking. :=) |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 2 13:57:04 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 2 04:01:29 2015. There's no way you can provide consistent voltage from a purely wind source. |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 2 14:45:18 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 2 13:57:04 2015. There's no way you can provide consistent voltage from a purely wind source.LOL! Wrong. What they mean is that based on how much wind actually blows and how much electricity is thus actually generated, the entire RR can be powered by wind. There's nothing theoretical. It's actual. They know how much electricity the wind farms generate on an average daily basis. That accounts for when the wind isn't blowing. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 2 15:45:37 2015, in response to By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 1 20:14:31 2015. Why do you hate trains? |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 2 18:22:11 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 2 13:57:04 2015. Actually, you can do that effortlessly. It's the CURRENT that will vary, the "Amps". Voltage regulator technology is so 1930's. :) |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Sep 5 03:52:38 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by terRAPIN station on Wed Sep 2 14:45:18 2015. But that doesn't necessarily equate to an environmentally friendly policy. If the railroad's peak demand period and the period during which wind power is at its maximum do not align, and chances are they will not, then NS's purchasing of 1.4 TWh merely means they're subsidizing a reduction of dispatchable base load power for non-dispatchable power. That really just makes the ratio of base to peak demand that much deeper, and could ultimately result in greater emissions by using dirtier peaker plants. |
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Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Sep 6 22:50:13 2015, in response to Re: By 2018, Dutch Rail Will be Fully Powered by Wind ~33% of the time, posted by WillD on Sat Sep 5 03:52:38 2015. I never said it was an environmentally friendly policy. I was just showing how Chris is wrong, as usual. |
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