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7 Line Extension Opening |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015 The 7 Line Extension will open September 13, 2015 |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Jul 20 14:37:29 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. Woo-hoo! |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 15:18:12 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by italianstallion on Mon Jul 20 14:37:29 2015. For sure |
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Posted by Beebo on Mon Jul 20 16:08:59 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. O boy, my birthday! :-) |
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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Mon Jul 20 16:11:58 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. I'll believe it when I ride it. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Jul 20 16:23:00 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. Excellent! |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Jul 20 17:26:54 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. Eggs Sale Ant |
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Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 20 17:27:07 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. 16 years after the moon was blasted out of Earth's orbit. :-) |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Jul 20 17:52:11 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Jul 20 16:23:00 2015. On a semi-related note, on this, the 142nd day of March 2015, the elevator connecting the street level and mezzanine of the 61st Street-Woodside station, and Platform A of the LIRR Woodside station, returns to operation.Way to stay on target, folks! |
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Posted by milantram on Mon Jul 20 19:09:45 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. Excellent! I'll celebrate by being in Portland for the opening of the Orange Line MAX to Milwaukie (Clackamas County), over the new Tilikum Crossing Bridge.New York could learn from Portland, which not only sets realistic schedules for its rail projects, but also brings them in on time and under budget. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jul 20 19:34:54 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 15:18:12 2015. Better to say, "For sure???". |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Jul 20 20:37:00 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. Erev Rosh Hashanah. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Mon Jul 20 20:48:46 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Jul 20 20:37:00 2015. Indeed |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 20 21:01:07 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. I can hear the borough commander right about now: "Well, it's about f---ing time!" |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 20 21:01:53 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by milantram on Mon Jul 20 19:09:45 2015. Same as Denver. |
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Posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 22:02:02 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Jul 20 20:37:00 2015. May it be a new beginning. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Jul 20 22:15:36 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 22:02:02 2015. 5/10 |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Jul 21 08:35:08 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 20 21:01:07 2015. 7 line Extension |
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Posted by Q4 on Tue Jul 21 10:27:33 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 20 17:27:07 2015. "16 years after the moon was blasted out of Earth's orbit. :-) "Good one LOL. |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jul 21 15:42:26 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Jul 20 21:01:07 2015. Planned long after the SAS and opening sooner! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Tue Jul 21 21:53:17 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Jul 20 17:52:11 2015. Edit: Nope. Have to wait until at least March 154th. Then again, it might not open until the 184th. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Jul 31 08:52:42 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. A. S. Beck!For those too young to remember, this means "Seeing is believing". Bob |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 09:58:17 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. They should open it on September 11. Take back the day! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jul 31 10:57:59 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jul 20 17:27:07 2015. That was an underrated program. The first season had some very solid episodes, like The Black Sun. That was one of my favorites. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 31 12:31:43 2015, in response to 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 14:23:05 2015. Thank you.I should be there. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jul 31 15:23:00 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Jul 20 17:52:11 2015. Well, I've heard the problem with that elevator is that the mechanism keeps getting shorted out by urine. Pretty hard to keep something going if the um, "customers" keep pissing on it... |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 1 15:17:58 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 31 09:58:17 2015. I think they usually do these on Sundays because Sunday is technically the start of the calendar week (I know for a lot of what I do it's based on the seven-day week being Sunday-Saturday). Also, doing it on 9/13 will give the new station THREE DAYS before it gets tested for full use since the two days after (Monday 9/14 and Tuesday 9/15) are Rosh Hashanah. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 1 16:42:37 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 1 15:17:58 2015. What’s interesting about the suggestion to open on 9/11 is that many years age each division had a different starting date for its payroll week and the IRT’s was Friday. Under that system 9/11 would have been the date for the start of the new pick and the opening of the new extension. Actually, the extension could be open the Sunday before with trains discharging passengers at T/Sq, running light to 34/Hudson and opening to the public on 9/11. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sat Aug 1 18:31:56 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Aug 1 15:17:58 2015. Rosh Hashanah is not a holiday for subway service purposes. It will see full train usage on Monday.The station will most likely see limited ridership numbers until the towers start to open, outside of major Javits events. (I can just see a sea of Cosplayers en-route to NY Comicon on the 7) |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 2 02:03:56 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The Silence on Sat Aug 1 18:31:56 2015. What I meant was, it would not see a full passenger strain until Wednesday 9/16 because of Rosh Hashanah. Obviously, those are normal weekdays for train purposes but ridership is lower because of many people who observe the start of the Jewish New Year. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 2 02:08:07 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 1 16:42:37 2015. Yes, but doing that there would be pressure to open it earlier (and I mean two weeks earlier on August 30) so that it would be open ahead of the start of the US Open Tennis Championships on August 31 (this year, for the first time since 2007 the tournament barring weather issues will end on Sunday 9/13). |
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Posted by The silence on Sun Aug 2 02:13:29 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 2 02:03:56 2015. No, it will probinly be just another day Monday. The city's observant Jewish population is not as high as you think it is, and what reason would any of them have to use that station to begin with?There is not much over there at the moment. |
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Posted by The silence on Sun Aug 2 02:15:54 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 2 02:08:07 2015. That's not a sufficient reason. What pressure would an event in queens place on 34th street. You could host the open just fine if Main Street was closed, let alone a station at the other end of the line. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Aug 2 04:19:42 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 2 02:15:54 2015. IAWTP!chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun Aug 2 09:38:34 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Aug 2 02:03:56 2015. Lower ridership for Jewish people as I'm one of them is Yom Kippur on September 23. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Aug 2 09:51:05 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by caine515 on Sun Aug 2 09:38:34 2015. Public schools are closed, normal school days have higher ridership citywide. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Aug 2 11:42:02 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 2 02:13:29 2015. I read somewhere that observation of the Jewish holidays is highest at Passover and the High Holidays (Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur). Only the very unobservant don't mark these holidays in some fashion. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:32:46 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 2 02:13:29 2015. The city's observant Jewish population is not as high as you think it isYes it is. What are you talking about? Manhattan will be relatively empty on the first day of Rosh Hashanna. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 2 15:36:16 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:32:46 2015. My rough estimate has been that about 25% of traffic of all types is missing on the first day of Rosh Hashanah or on Yom Kippur. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Aug 2 15:37:00 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 14:32:46 2015. Jewish population is estimated at close to a million, but a large part of that number are not considered "observant". That is not especially relevant to these holidays, even those who are not regular worshippers often attend services. Ever been to a church on Christmas or Easter? Looks pretty different than a typical Sunday. Even quieter for daily services. The fact that many businesses are closed, and schools are closed, takes a great number of people off the systems regardless of their religious affiliation. Many people who are not observant in almost any aspect of Judaism will take off from work for any number of reasons. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Aug 2 16:08:03 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Aug 2 11:42:02 2015. I had a few Jewish friends who probably never saw the inside of a synagogue but when it came to Passover and the High Holidays, they did observe. It’s the same with many of us Christians. Many of us don’t go near a church except on Christmas and Good Friday/Easter. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:32:48 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by pragmatist on Sun Aug 2 15:37:00 2015. Many people who are not observant in almost any aspect of Judaism will take off from work for any number of reasons.Exactly. "Observant" has nothing to do with it. Plenty of non-observant Jews take off from work on the first day of Rosh Hashanah. So as I said, The Silence is completely wrong. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Aug 3 05:29:25 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The silence on Sun Aug 2 02:13:29 2015. You forget that public and many private schools are closed that Monday and Tuesday (I believe only Catholic schools are open those days). That by itself eliminates a LARGE chunk of traffic, especially at morning rush hour those two days (and also Yom Kippur, Sept. 23).This has to be a tricky start to the school year in NYC because you have Labor Day on it's latest possible date, the 9/11 anniversary at the other end of the week and Rosh Hashanah the following Monday. |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Aug 3 10:15:05 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 2 21:32:48 2015. the idiot can't use common sense, so why should I even bother talking to him about the fact that I'm discussing the traffic load on ONE STATION that is currently practically in the middle of NOWHERE.go eat a ham and cheese sandwich, ya asshat... |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Aug 3 10:16:19 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Aug 3 05:29:25 2015. yes, but how many of them will be traveling through 34th street? there is no traffic generation there aside from the high line and the javits center at the moment. |
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Posted by The Silence on Mon Aug 3 10:27:17 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by pragmatist on Sun Aug 2 15:37:00 2015. let's put it this way. Wallyhorse is insisting that due to the Jewish holidays, the station will see lower traffic.My point is 34th street/11th is not near enough to large, consistent, traffic generation in general at the moment, and that how much effect could anyone's holiday have on that fact? Wally's assertion is they have three days before full traffic, mine is that have a good two to three YEARS. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Aug 3 11:28:51 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Aug 3 05:29:25 2015. School up here starts on Sept. 2 - Wednesday. They go three days, then have Labor Day weekend, comeback Tuesday the 8th, and then have the 11th and 12th of for Rosh Hashana. Not to mention the families who will take the kids out of school to travel the Friday before Labor Day.#asinine |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Mon Aug 3 12:08:51 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by northshore on Mon Jul 20 15:18:12 2015. Ferrr shurrrr. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 3 13:16:35 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The Silence on Mon Aug 3 10:15:05 2015. the idiot can't use common sense, so why should I even bother talking to him about the fact that I'm discussing the traffic load on ONE STATION that is currently practically in the middle of NOWHERE.He has some common sense, as evidenced by his correct understanding of how the Jewish holidays affect subway ridership. YOU don't understand that. What Wally has trouble with is applying that correct understanding to any practical purpose. go eat a ham and cheese sandwich, ya asshat...Listen you anti-Semitic fucktard: you're completely wrong about everything in this subthread. 1. There are way more Jews observing Rosh Hashanah than you think, and apparently way more Jews that make up the weekday daytime population of Manhattan than you think. 2. Population counts, transit ridership counts, and transit ridership patterns will be much different than on a normal non-federal holiday weekday. 3. There are plenty of people who may otherwise use the new 7 station but won't because of Rosh Hashanah. 4. There are plenty of people who may otherwise use the new 7 station but won't because of Rosh Hashanah. Seeing as you are stumped on 3 and 4, I'll give you an example: B&H. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Aug 3 13:50:45 2015, in response to Re: 7 Line Extension Opening, posted by The Silence on Mon Aug 3 10:16:19 2015. And a smattering of construction folks on the Hudson Yards Project that currently come into the Bus Terminal and hoof it, or take the local buses. I would imagine the station gets its first big test whenever the next big Javits event is scheduled. |
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