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LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 08:54:06 2015

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Montauk Branch Customers
Delays Posted: 03/30/2015 8:13AM

The 5:39AM train from Montauk due Long Island City at 8:44AM is operating 12 minutes late due to congestion caused by the derailment of a freight car west of Wyandanch Station.

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Wyandanch isn't on the Montauk Branch. I could understand if the derailment was in the vicinity of Beth interlocking but it's not.
The same message is posted for a train on the Port Jeff Branch.


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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Mar 30 09:07:23 2015, in response to LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 08:54:06 2015.

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I guess that train normally uses the Central branch but because of the derailment, it will remain on the Babylon branch.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by Andy on Mon Mar 30 09:36:58 2015, in response to LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 08:54:06 2015.

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Could be that Jamaica is more congested than usual because some trains are not in their normal slots, because Ronkonkoma trains are all delayed at Wyandanch due to the derailment. This particular Montauk train hits Jamaica at about 8:20 AM, height of the AM peak.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 30 09:53:42 2015, in response to LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 08:54:06 2015.

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I imagine the derailed freight care could have backed up several KO trains and when it was cleared, they had more trains to push through Beth and then through Hicksville.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by The silence on Mon Mar 30 09:57:58 2015, in response to LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 08:54:06 2015.

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Congestion caused by the derailment, not the derailment itself. If a train is blocking Beth interlocking, then the 5:39 is screwed.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 10:31:33 2015, in response to Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Mar 30 09:07:23 2015.

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But Wyandanch isn't near the Central branch.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 30 10:47:51 2015, in response to Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 10:31:33 2015.

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Near enough. Read some of the other responses.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 30 11:12:38 2015, in response to Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 10:31:33 2015.

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Yeah, but maybe it would take 12 minutes longer on the Babylon Branch than the Main Line.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 30 11:42:36 2015, in response to Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Mar 30 11:12:38 2015.

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Probably not, unless the train was held up while they decided ow to fit it in. Many diesels that go west of Babylon take the Babylon branch anyway.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 12:18:18 2015, in response to Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 30 09:53:42 2015.

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Another good reason for putting in a second track.

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Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?

Posted by R2Chinatown on Mon Mar 30 16:20:00 2015, in response to Re: LIRR: Can somebody explain this?, posted by nostalgia on Mon Mar 30 10:31:33 2015.

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I just checked the Montauk timetable on line. The 5:39 does run through the Central branch. So we can assume that the train was re-routed over the Babylon branch to reduce main line congestion or it went via the Central Branch and was delayed by congestion caused by eastbound trains tying up the main line so the LIRR couldn't use the Eastbound track for westbound peak service.

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