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Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by chud1 on Sat Mar 28 10:40:49 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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5 droolimg stars out of 5 drooling stars for these video's.
chud1.
:).....

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 28 10:49:47 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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very interesting video. Thank you.

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 11:16:14 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Mar 28 10:49:47 2015.

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You are quite welcome.


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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 14:13:17 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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Great videos!

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 28 16:50:52 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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That train of R-10s was not an Abbott - it was double Abbott!

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 28 21:33:03 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 28 16:50:52 2015.

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I took a look at it and is definitely an Abbott.

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 28 21:47:08 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 28 16:50:52 2015.

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If it was a rush hour train signed with WASH HTS-168 ST, then it would have been a double Baker (BB).

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:12:56 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by randyo on Sat Mar 28 21:33:03 2015.

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Then why was its northern terminal listed as 168th Street and not 207th Street? I also think it was an AA.

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Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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Thanks.

The film seriously misrepresented how the student got from Staten Island to his destination. How did he get to school using only a bus and train? If this film was manufactured in 1961, the Verrazano was not open yet (it opened in 1964) so there would be no bus service directly to Manhattan. Thus, he would have to take the Ferry to get to Manhattan. And unless he lived in St. George, he would have to either take a bus or the SIRT to get to the Ferry Terminal, unless he wanted to take a rather long walk.

And once he got to Manhattan, he would either have to take another train or walk to the nearest A train station, which, if I'm not mistaken, is Broadway-Nassau (now Fulton Street). And if he's getting on in Manhattan, I assume he's going uptown. And if he's getting on at Broadway-Nassau, why are the people from the Bronx and Queens also getting on there?

Something's wrong here.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Mar 29 07:30:41 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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Thanks, Mitch. I know very little about New York, so what you point out may be a gross error. Chalk it up to "movie magic", like all that stuff people find wrong in every transit movie.

:) :)

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Fulton Frank on Sun Mar 29 08:46:31 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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That Miss Raymond was hot.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 29 09:29:49 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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If this film was manufactured in 1961, the Verrazano was not open yet (it opened in 1964) so there would be no bus service directly to Manhattan.

At the risk of getting horribly off topic, were there buses over the Bayonne Bridge through the Lincoln or Holland Tunnel?



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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 29 13:35:21 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:12:56 2015.

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The exterior scenes of the train clearly shows a single A on the route sign although the end destination sign is unreadable. Since the interior scenes only show one destination sign reading 168 St, it’s more likely that the sign was improperly set either by vandals (yes, they had them even back then) or possibly left over from a situation where that car was assigned to the AA/BB which was common around then and merely not properly changed back when the train was placed back in A service.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 29 13:37:22 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by AlM on Sun Mar 29 09:29:49 2015.

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I’m not entirely sure but there may have been some Jersey company buses that ran from SI through Bayonne and Jersey City and through the Holland tunnel..

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 29 20:23:21 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by randyo on Sun Mar 29 13:35:21 2015.

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You can't go wrong with R-10s in any event.:)

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 29 20:38:08 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 28 21:47:08 2015.

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Yep.

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 29 20:38:27 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 28 21:47:08 2015.

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A Bob Barker, as it were.:)

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by INDviaCulver on Sun Mar 29 22:30:25 2015, in response to Daily Miracle (1961), posted by TransitChuckG on Sat Mar 28 08:08:26 2015.

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WOW!!!! Haven't seen this film since the late 70's on a school trip to the Transit Museum!!!! And I ALWAYS wanted to see it again! I distinctly recall the scene with the "BB" R-10 train, and the part where the wheels were having flat spots taken out. However, I swear there is a missing scene with a "QT" train arriving at an underground Station. Funny how the narrator says how the trains are not crowed during non-rush hrs at that time. Some lines TODAY are ALWAYS standing room on some parts of the route!!!

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 30 00:01:27 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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Remember that they kept making the point of having someone from each of the five boroughs - so they needed SOMEone from SI....a - excuse the expression, especially considering the kid's heritage - token Staten Islander.

Even accounting for early 60s tokenism. having the black kid coming from Staten Island, is kind of laughable, and was probably even more so back in 1960-61...

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 30 00:01:27 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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Remember that they kept making the point of having someone from each of the five boroughs - so they needed SOMEone from SI....a - excuse the expression, especially considering the kid's heritage - token Staten Islander.

Even accounting for early 60s tokenism. having the black kid coming from Staten Island, is kind of laughable, and was probably even more so back in 1960-61...

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Mr. Night Train Show on Mon Mar 30 15:44:55 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by randyo on Sun Mar 29 13:37:22 2015.

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There was very little bus transportation from Staten Island to New York. The Hudson Bus Company ran the Red & Tan 99S route from Perth Amboy thru Staten Island/Bayonne/Jersey City to the PABT but this was never more that 5 round trips all day. I believe one of the IBOCs from Bayonne ran some service from the Port Richmond area into Journal Square but memory is not guaranteed on this.

Getting to NYC was a train or bus ride to the ferry. Even after the bridge opened there was the R-7 to Bay Ridge Brooklyn, but it was a few years until the X9 started running from Great Kills Park into NYC via the Bridge/Gowanus/Battery Tunnel.



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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 31 01:51:08 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Mon Mar 30 00:01:27 2015.

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You know...the ignorance you displayed is astounding.

I'll have you know,my aunt,has lived on Staten Island since coming to NY from Christ Church..in 1958.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 31 07:29:25 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 31 01:51:08 2015.

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He's not ignorant. And you watch your language!

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by milantram on Tue Mar 31 22:39:46 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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That's called artistic license. Something today's journalists have learned well. How to stretch the truth to make it fit a soundbite. Bah…

I, too, was mystified how each one of the narrator's quarries all managed to get together shoehorned into in one subway car-an R10, to boot!

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Re: Daily Miracle (1961)

Posted by Q4 on Wed Apr 1 12:50:27 2015, in response to Re: Daily Miracle (1961), posted by INDviaCulver on Sun Mar 29 22:30:25 2015.

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Can someone please tell me what was the name of the Bus Depot they showed in Part I?

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 1 15:52:46 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Mar 31 07:29:25 2015.

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Had to be, to make such a claim without factual evidence, other than his own bigotry.
My Aunt has lived on Pell st since the mid 50s...as well as giving birth to her children,all born on Staten Island during that time.

That makes Him and You,a fool.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 2 21:33:58 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by milantram on Tue Mar 31 22:39:46 2015.

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Very carefully.:)

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Apr 2 21:44:45 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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Maybe he swam.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by merrick1 on Fri Apr 3 07:21:01 2015, in response to Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by Mitch45 on Sun Mar 29 07:20:51 2015.

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I think they ignored anything that wasn't operated by NYCTA. They mention a fleet of 2000 buses. It seems to me that they didn't count the private bus companies.

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Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961))

Posted by GonzoUSN on Fri Apr 3 19:05:37 2015, in response to Re: Thanks But There's One Thing... (Re: Daily Miracle (1961)), posted by merrick1 on Fri Apr 3 07:21:01 2015.

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I agree with Merrick1. The TA CHOSE to ignore the Ferry since it was run by the Marine and Aviation Dept. and Maybe our Queens rep had to take a private bus to the train.

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