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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 14:40:48 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Easy on Sat May 17 13:16:40 2008.

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Go conform yourself! :D

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 14:48:40 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 14:29:40 2008.

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I've been accosted by police and questioned numerous times but no, I can't say it's ever gotten this serious. I maintain Nilet isn't a troublemaker but perhaps needs to learn finesse, where he can assert himself and win the officer over rather than simply quote the rules.

BTW, Nilet, another railfan and I were pulled from a train in Philly and detained in a PA office for about 10 minutes. The 3 of us were courteous as was the officer who interviewed us.

Bob OTOH is simply Teflon; he never has any trouble :D

your pal,
Fred

PS Thanks for the compliment.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by AlM on Sat May 17 15:18:47 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 09:09:18 2008.

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Todays back ground checks will show way more than that you want companies to know, and the results are they take better candidates.


All he's ever gotten is a summons. That doesn't show up in a background check and doesn't need to be revealed on a job application.



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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 15:22:19 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by AlM on Sat May 17 15:18:47 2008.

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A violation doesn't show up in a background check. A misdemeanor that you are never actually charged with, let alone convicted of certainly doesn't show up.

If your parking tickets don't pop up in a background check, then my being accused of trespassing by a cop but never actually arraigned, let alone convicted certainly won't be a problem.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 15:28:22 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 14:40:04 2008.

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It's because you can run faster :D

your pal,
Fred

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat May 17 15:32:43 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 15:22:19 2008.

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Don't bet on it, don't burn you bridges till you cross them.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by randyo on Sat May 17 17:43:09 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri May 16 22:26:59 2008.

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It might be worth more that you think. 2 years ago while there was still technically a photo ban on the Boston T, I was taking photos and I let it be known that I was a visiting transit manager from NY. The operator on the trolley I was photographing just nodded, said nothing and let me continue taking pictures.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 17 18:11:53 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 15:22:19 2008.

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A violation doesn't show up in a background check. A misdemeanor that you are never actually charged with, let alone convicted of certainly doesn't show up.

Ahem...

Not So. To keep your nursing license valid *you* must report all charges other than traffic tickets, guilty or not, as soon as they are made.

Failure to do so will cause an immediate suspension of your license.

ROAR

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 18:47:38 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Fred G on Sat May 17 14:48:40 2008.

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I've never had any such problems except for the time I was walking on the AMTRAK ROW between Harris Tower and Harrisburg to see the PRR E-8s in the station. Still was only asked to get off the ROW and never detained or questioned.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Easy on Sat May 17 18:50:43 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 18:47:38 2008.

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Good for you, but that doesn't mean that the people that have had trouble didn't handle it well. But at some point when it happens 4,5, and 6 times maybe it's time to take a step back.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat May 17 20:22:51 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 18:47:38 2008.

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Were you authorized to be on the ROW?

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 17 21:09:14 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat May 17 20:22:51 2008.

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NO, hence I was "asked" to leave.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat May 17 21:14:24 2008, in response to ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Thu May 15 15:50:29 2008.

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Guy, i have one question, when you take photos, do you just take photos? or do you also jiggle around and jump or something. Do you rock back and forth or sway side to side?

Why exactly does this occur? Do you take pictures FREQUENTLY? Are you a shady guy? Do you have a beard?

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 17 22:29:26 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by randyo on Sat May 17 17:43:09 2008.

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Well that trolley operator was an idiot. Terrorists can claim to be visiting transit managers from NY, too.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 17 22:29:41 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Easy on Fri May 16 21:11:09 2008.

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I agree :(

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 17 23:15:40 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Sat May 17 10:28:24 2008.

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haha, Macs suck.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Easy on Sat May 17 23:41:02 2008, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Sat May 17 21:14:24 2008.

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lol

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun May 18 16:15:46 2008, in response to ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Thu May 15 15:50:29 2008.

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Maybe you should change your SOP. I know your not black or arab so you gotta be doing something wrong.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by randyo on Sun May 18 19:24:37 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 17 22:29:26 2008.

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True, but I had my TA pass and badge to show as proff and I always show it!

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 20:14:30 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by randyo on Sun May 18 19:24:37 2008.

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But the pass and badge could be fakes.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Railman718 on Sun May 18 20:17:59 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 20:14:30 2008.

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But the pass and badge could be fakes.

Not sure about the badge but you cannot fake our passes..


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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by aem7ac on Sun May 18 20:20:18 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 16 15:05:21 2008.

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Cops wouldn't charge him with something legal.

You'd be surprised.
Unless you're talking about the NYPD. Those guys are generally good (so far).


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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 21:00:17 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Railman718 on Sun May 18 20:17:59 2008.

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Why not? And how would a guy in Boston know how to tell the real from the fake?

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Railman718 on Sun May 18 21:05:31 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 21:00:17 2008.

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Because you cant fake our passses thats all im not going to get into the details.




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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 22:54:47 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Railman718 on Sun May 18 21:05:31 2008.

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Like I asked, how would the guy in Boston know about the detail that distinguishes the real from the fake?

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Bergit on Sun May 18 22:57:04 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 17 22:29:26 2008.

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Why was he an idiot if there is nothing inherantly wrong with photo taking?

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 23:17:25 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Bergit on Sun May 18 22:57:04 2008.

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Maybe I wasn't totally clear. The trolley operator initially stopped the photographer because he believed photography was wrong (because it is suspicious, in his mind, and could lead to an attack on the system, in his mind) and then when the photographer claims to be a transit employee from another city, the trolley operator says "oh ok, carry on". He's an idiot because if he really believes that photography is wrong and dangerous, then he shouldn't allow anyone to get away with it, because anyone can be lying about who they are.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Bergit on Mon May 19 00:02:18 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 23:17:25 2008.

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Maybe but there might be other factors involved. If a terrorist were going to target a Boston trolley, then it would be more logial that he'd have false Boston ID. He also may be familiar with NYCTA Ids, too. Of course, that's not a reason to violate the policy of the Boston System but that only makes the operator negligent and not an idiot.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 19 06:52:26 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Bergit on Mon May 19 00:02:18 2008.

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If a terrorist were going to target a Boston trolley, then it would be more logial that he'd have false Boston ID.

I disagree 100%. It would be a lot harder for the terrorist to pass of a fake Boston ID than it would be to pass off a fake NY ID.

He also may be familiar with NYCTA Ids, too.

He may be, but I don't think he'd be familiar enough to judge is one is real or fake.

Of course, that's not a reason to violate the policy of the Boston System but that only makes the operator negligent and not an idiot.

No, I think it makes him an idiot. That's my opinion.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Railman718 on Mon May 19 08:00:19 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 18 22:54:47 2008.

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All i said was our passes cant be faked,thats it.

I wouldnt know how a guy in Boston whould know.

Whould you know If a person from another agency in another state showed you A pass and a badge?

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 19 08:05:41 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Railman718 on Mon May 19 08:00:19 2008.

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I wouldnt know how a guy in Boston whould know.

That's what I'm saying!

Whould you know If a person from another agency in another state showed you A pass and a badge?

Exactly! That's my point! As such, you could present a fake NYCT ID to a guy in Boston and if the guy in Boston is like the idiot in the story, he'll assume it is real and allow the person to continue taking photos!!!!

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Railman718 on Mon May 19 08:31:28 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 19 08:05:41 2008.

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Ah!!

Ok i got you now no problem..

Kinda rough on the guy huh?

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 19 08:41:40 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Railman718 on Mon May 19 08:31:28 2008.

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Not at all. I'm just pointing out his hypocrisy and/or idiocy by, OTOH thinking photography is super suspicious and illegal and dangerous, but OTOH allowing some guy who says he is a transit worker (but who could have easily been lying) to take those photos. That's the kind of thinking that really could compromise the security of the system.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by Railman718 on Mon May 19 08:52:39 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 19 08:41:40 2008.

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I can totally understand that.

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Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops

Posted by randyo on Mon May 19 18:42:28 2008, in response to Re: You're gonna get locked up if you keep provoking the cops, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 19 08:41:40 2008.

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Like with police officers, there is something about a genuine transit worker that most other transit workers can usually spot. A genuine transit worker knows how to act in a safe manner around a railroad facility whereas a phony would not. Also in many cases, I dicuss certain operating differences between the two systems with these employess and that usually can separate the real deals from the phony baloneys.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 25 00:59:45 2015, in response to ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Nilet on Thu May 15 15:50:29 2008.

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Heh, what a classic.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Nilet on Wed Mar 25 01:55:53 2015, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 25 00:59:45 2015.

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I'll say. The city settled for $2,000.

I wonder how much the Empty-Yay would charge for a cab ride? I'd like to get a RFW video in HD this time.

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by WillD on Wed Mar 25 02:22:56 2015, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 25 00:59:45 2015.

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So you object to stalkers necroposting when it happens to be one of your many and varied ignorant screeds, but it's okay when you do it?

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Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter.

Posted by Nilet on Wed Mar 25 03:28:00 2015, in response to Re: ANOTHER Police Encounter., posted by WillD on Wed Mar 25 02:22:56 2015.

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Of course.

"It's OK when I do it" is the defining creed of the right wing.

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