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Posted by heypaul on Tue Mar 3 17:29:32 2015 A proposal to charge each subway customer crossing the Manhattan & Williamsburg Bridges a 10 cent surcharge is being considered. The surcharge would be collected by a fare collection agent pushing a cart with a Johnson D Type farebox. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 3 17:46:13 2015, in response to East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by heypaul on Tue Mar 3 17:29:32 2015. I don't think ten cents is enough. It should be three dollars to match the roadway toll with EZ pass. That will ensure the trains don't become too crowded by drivers who will take the train instead.And the three dollars should be paid in quarters or dollar coins since the Johnsons don't accept dollar bills. Anyone without the correct coins should be given a $100 summons for fare evasion. |
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Posted by heypaul on Tue Mar 3 18:20:24 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 3 17:46:13 2015. Excellent Thinking!!! A $3 subway toll will keep car owners from flocking to the subways and bursting the seams. Come to think of it, we should also impose a toll on all subway tunnels leading into Manhattan as cheap customers will take the R, F, A, CC,L , #7 and GG train into Manhattan. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Mar 4 02:18:18 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 3 17:46:13 2015. Anything to support the auto-lobby cause, eh? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 5 10:05:59 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by heypaul on Tue Mar 3 18:20:24 2015. How do I get on that "GG" or "CC" to ManHattan, and whattabout the return trip fare? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Mar 5 10:36:05 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by WillD on Wed Mar 4 02:18:18 2015. And if East River Bride tolls are put in place, you are saying hte subways wouldn't become more crowded? I know a bus every 30 minutes through the Battery Tunnel should be able to handle all the extra traffic. Wasn't that the MTA's plan last time? They didn't even offer to add any more trains if I remember correctly. The fact is more trains are needed today (and there is room in the shoulder periods because we are running less trains today than in the 1960s) and they are not being run.The MTA chairman said it himself that he remembers when you couldn't get into the first Lex express during rush hours, and now you have to miss four trains to get on. So how many will you have to miss when more are diverted from cars to the trains? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 5 13:40:03 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 3 17:46:13 2015. Wow...Hundred dollar fine for not having change. So,are you Willing to go to court over a constitutional slight? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 5 17:40:20 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 5 13:40:03 2015. Why not. A favorable decision would impact all transit agencies and the alleged fare evader could probably sue for a lot of money! By the way the case could probably be tried in federal court since it involves a federal issue. |
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Posted by heypaul on Thu Mar 5 17:51:56 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 5 10:05:59 2015. "How do I get on that "GG" or "CC" to ManHattan" |
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Posted by j trainloco on Thu Mar 5 18:10:22 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Mar 3 17:46:13 2015. The point of congestion pricing is not only to raise revenue, bit also to encourage use of mass transit. You're proposing a policy that flies in the face of that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 6 07:09:16 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 5 17:40:20 2015. How is it a federal issue? |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Mar 6 08:20:28 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Mar 5 10:36:05 2015. They didn't even offer to add any more trains if I remember correctly.If you're speaking of the 2008 plan, they actually did. I'm about to head to work, but I'll post a link to the report later. But I do agree that if this passes, that extra service needs to be in place on Day 0. |
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Posted by northshore on Fri Mar 6 09:44:00 2015, in response to East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by heypaul on Tue Mar 3 17:29:32 2015. Drivers are not going to give up their cars to ride in a subway. Besides most are from the suburbs and don't ride subways to begin with. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 6 10:15:58 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by northshore on Fri Mar 6 09:44:00 2015. When it costs them, they will. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Mar 6 14:31:35 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Mar 5 10:36:05 2015. And if East River Bride tolls are put in place ...Now just hold on a minute ... East River Bridge tolls are one thing, but tolling East River Brides is just unconstitutional. If you're going to do that, be sure to toll Harlem River Brides, too!! --Mark |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Mar 6 16:17:52 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 6 07:09:16 2015. The law defining “legal tender” is a federal law. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Mar 6 19:06:31 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Mar 6 14:31:35 2015. Congestion Pricing would have tolled traveling Manhattan streets below 60th. Nothing unconstitutional about that. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Mar 6 20:05:46 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Mar 6 14:31:35 2015. In addition, we have to pay tolls for mail order brides, as well! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 7 10:11:49 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by randyo on Fri Mar 6 16:17:52 2015. Which has nothing to do with any of this. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 7 11:23:20 2015, in response to East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by heypaul on Tue Mar 3 17:29:32 2015. PROPOSAL OF LION:CLOSE THE DAMN BRIDGES! Trucks, Beese, and Taxis only. Have correct EZ-Pass or enter exit ramp. People who actually live in the CDB with a parking place can have EZ-Passes that access these bridges, all others, take the Tunnel, Pay Full Fare, do not pass go, do not collect $200. FEED THE LION! ROAR |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 7 13:51:07 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Mar 7 10:11:49 2015. Actually it does. If the fare is over $1.00 and the fare boxes on the buses are incapable of accepting dollar bills, then the agency is technically violation of federal law since if a passenger boards and offers legal tender and the operator in the form of the farebox refuses to accept it then a violation on the part of the agency attaches. |
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Posted by Outside the Box on Mon Mar 9 10:35:38 2015, in response to Re: East River Bridge Tolls May Impact Subway Customers, posted by northshore on Fri Mar 6 09:44:00 2015. Not really. The LIRR, MNCR, NJT, and the commuter buses handle the vast majority of suburban commuters into Manhattan. There are many who transfer at Atlantic, and some at Hunters Pt, to the subways.There is a way to reduce rush hr traffic in Manhattan. Increase HOV Bus Lanes, and institute Commercial/Truck Lanes on the non toll bridges. For example: Current condition on Queensboro Bridge: AM Peak: 2 HOV lanes + 2 car lanes (upper level) & 2 general traffic lanes (lower level) in peak direction. Change to 2 HOV Lanes + 2 car lanes (upper level) & 1 HOV-Bus lane + 1 Truck/Commercial lane (lower level). It would encourage car pooling and taking commuter buses. It faster to implement than CBTC on IND Queens Blvd Trunk. |
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