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Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 11:45:56 2014

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I found this on the net and instantly recognized this as an old LIRR coach retired in the 1990's. Any idea where in Pennsylvania this is, and what the story is with it?

http://abnf.co/PA-abandoned_train_pictures_in_pa.htm















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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 27 11:58:03 2014, in response to Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 11:45:56 2014.

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Are there multiple cars from the LIRR or are the photos from only one car?

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 27 11:59:05 2014, in response to Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 11:45:56 2014.

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Any idea where in PA this was taken?

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 12:21:47 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 27 11:58:03 2014.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 12:22:01 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 27 11:59:05 2014.

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I wouldn't be asking if I knew.....

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by R30A on Thu Mar 27 12:53:07 2014, in response to Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 11:45:56 2014.

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They're all over the country!

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Mar 27 14:18:41 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by R30A on Thu Mar 27 12:53:07 2014.

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Exactly where?

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 14:53:20 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by R30A on Thu Mar 27 12:53:07 2014.

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I know but this is in Pennsylvania. Was wondering if anyone knew any info on these.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by sloth on Thu Mar 27 18:16:33 2014, in response to Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 11:45:56 2014.

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It might be Honesdale, on the now defunct Stourbridge line. Then again, it might not be...

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Mar 28 01:48:01 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by sloth on Thu Mar 27 18:16:33 2014.

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I was thinking outside of Cressona

-w-

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 28 08:56:52 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Mar 28 01:48:01 2014.

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There's a name on the station, but it's hard to make out.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Mar 28 12:11:50 2014, in response to Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 11:45:56 2014.

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Oh yes, they installed M-1 seats and those chintzy rug walls just before the end.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 28 16:38:28 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Mar 28 12:11:50 2014.

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That wasn't "just before the end", they ran with those rug walls and M1 style seats since at least the 70's or 80's.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 28 16:46:24 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 28 16:38:28 2014.

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I've never been on these things. Their interiors looked a lot like Comet I's, more modern than I had thought. They were originally built as MU's in the 50's, IIRC.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 28 16:50:52 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 28 16:46:24 2014.

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They were. They even ran in Staten Island when they were MUs.

I was on them for a ride between LIC and Jamaica. GP38-2 at the east end and Alco at the west end. They should've kept cabs on the cars and rebuilt the Alcos with HEP instead.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Mar 28 19:38:25 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 14:53:20 2014.

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I was going to guess Jim Thorpe.

Either way, just north of the Jim Thorpe train station there is a little yard that stored a bunch of old SEPTA cars. Don't know if the cars are still there. They're not visible from the street. You have to trespass or take the museum train to get into the yard.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 28 20:04:40 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 28 16:46:24 2014.

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The only thing remotely modern was the seats... and I promise you they were nothing like Comet Is. Square windows, storm doors that would wedge half open, and negative shock absorbers (I'm pretty sure they amplified bumps). The weird wood panel in the middle of the car. The single column of lights that would blink out for minutes at a time. No PA. View of the track below through holes a baseball could roll through.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Mar 29 14:42:26 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Mar 28 16:46:24 2014.

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They were refurbished some time in the 70's or early 80s with the M1 like seats. They were great. I used to rarely sit inside them, as the vestebules were a blast to ride in, especially in low platform territory where the doors would be open. And the best had to be the last car on Montauk trains that didn't have an engine on the back. All open. The new trains destroyed my LIRR railfanning, as these coaches may have been rolling disasters for the commuters, they were a railfan's dream.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Mar 29 15:06:06 2014, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 28 20:04:40 2014.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Feb 28 18:05:55 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Mar 28 08:56:52 2014.

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Buckingham Valley

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 28 18:28:18 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Mar 29 14:42:26 2014.

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I rode then from time to time from Oyster Bay & Montauk & they had a very bouncy ride, especially, over grade crossings. Often wondered if they bounced so high & just luckily the truck landed right on the rails on the way down. They had a "feel" about them thats missing from todays trains, like the sound of the brakes applying with the shoes squealing & hissing, or the buffer plates crunching together with every bounce. Little things that moved over for progress. I guess.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 28 18:57:22 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 28 18:28:18 2015.

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The did not have many coil springs, and they had the Pennsy influence of leaf springs on their Commonwealth trucks, which ordinarily run very well.

It looks like they have at least primed the other 2 cars. The patch over the door pocket corrosion is removed.

They bounced plenty on LIRR grade crossings and switches, but not on MN's on their crossings (on fan trips). When run 65 MPH over Nassau Interlocking and crossings, the truck would bottom out under you.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 28 19:04:23 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Mar 27 12:22:01 2014.

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owned

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by R30A on Sat Feb 28 20:28:55 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 28 20:04:40 2014.

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They had a distinct smell. Some combination of rust, urine, electrical fire, and peanut butter.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 28 20:54:36 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by R30A on Sat Feb 28 20:28:55 2015.

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Why are you responding to an almost year old post?

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Feb 28 21:13:37 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by R30A on Sat Feb 28 20:28:55 2015.

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Yes! That's exactly the smell too!!!!!

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Feb 28 21:14:23 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Feb 28 18:28:18 2015.

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Yes....they had a distinctive bounce and squeak.

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Feb 28 21:15:05 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sat Feb 28 18:05:55 2015.

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Thank you! Took almost a year...lol

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 28 22:05:22 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 28 20:54:36 2015.

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Well, Dave, we did set a precedent with the 1937 Willets point photo!

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Feb 28 23:17:15 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 28 20:54:36 2015.

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Why are you asking him?

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Dave on Sun Mar 1 08:01:51 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Feb 28 22:05:22 2015.

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Good point...LOL!

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Re: Abandoned LIRR Train

Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 1 18:21:57 2015, in response to Re: Abandoned LIRR Train, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Feb 28 21:14:23 2015.

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The PT75 "Zip" cars did not squeak, but bounced all the moreso to make up for it.

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