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Posted by localacrosstheplatform on Sun Mar 1 14:12:09 2015, in response to No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 1 14:02:39 2015. Hasn't been done for awhile (at least in the 2.5 years I've lived in the city).Interesting though! |
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Posted by R32_3672 on Sun Mar 1 15:49:16 2015, in response to No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 1 14:02:39 2015. $$$$ |
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Posted by The silence on Sun Mar 1 15:50:04 2015, in response to No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 1 14:02:39 2015. They did that during the South Ferry project which shut down the whole manhattan IRT south of Chambers save the Clark branch.It was usually a shuttle from Essex to Prospect, but the M is currently using the middle track at Essex the shuttle used to use. also, now that Broadway-Lafayette/Bleecker has a transfer in both directions, you can just take the D there both ways or the Q at Canal or USQ. |
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Posted by BrooklynTrain on Sun Mar 1 16:01:03 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by The silence on Sun Mar 1 15:50:04 2015. Why run empty J shuttles that had about 5 people per train? Most people weren't aware of the J, and of those that were, preferred the express D, N or Q to Atlantic. The J weekend shuttle was a complete failure. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 1 16:18:17 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by The silence on Sun Mar 1 15:50:04 2015. In addition one transfer that was very important south of Brooklyn Bridge was the set of transfers at Fulton Street between the A and C trains and the #4 and #5 trains. This transfer enabled Brooklyn and and east side of Manhattan connections between those lines.Well the new transfer at Jay Street-MetroTech between the R and the A, C and F trains, and then the transfers between the #4 and #6 trains at Canal Street, Union Square, and in midtown - means that it is possible to accomplish an alternative journey. The advent of the unlimited Metro-Card, and the years long weekend goings-on at the Fulton Street transfer station meant that many had to learn alternative pathways. Of course, there is the feeling that the TA would prefer that many folks forget that there ever was a way to travel via the Nassau Street line and southern Brooklyn. Mike |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 1 16:48:08 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 1 16:18:17 2015. For the decades that the the Essex-Christie connection was in dis-use, was it ever used for a weekend GO ? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 1 20:45:24 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Joe V on Sun Mar 1 16:48:08 2015. I'm sure that other folks will mention the use of the Essex-Christie connection for the re-routed D-trains during a short period when the Manhattan Bridge was under repair.Mike |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Mar 1 22:30:26 2015, in response to No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 1 14:02:39 2015. The Nassau Street cut is out of service for a long-term G/O, I believe. Possibly Sandy-related. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Mar 1 22:35:28 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Mar 1 22:30:26 2015. Whats the description of the G/O as it says on TENS? |
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Posted by zac on Sun Mar 1 23:42:20 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by BrooklynTrain on Sun Mar 1 16:01:03 2015. It was just too obscure to be useful. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 2 06:38:51 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by BrooklynTrain on Sun Mar 1 16:01:03 2015. Why did they run them as separate shuttles anyway, rather than extending the regular J trains south from Chambers St?Anyway, the Broad St.-Montague tunnel connection is out of service "long term", as G1Ravage points out. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 07:10:14 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Mar 2 06:38:51 2015. There are also clearance issues which the TA is keeping secret and no one here is talking about.Someone who works for the TA and was on Cuomo's inpspection train told me at the Model Train Show in Rutgers that an Arnine suffered a gash in its roof while moving through the Montague Tunnel last fall. As a result, R32 and R42 are also banned. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 10:52:46 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 07:10:14 2015. "that an Arnine suffered a gash in its roof"Isn't it simpler just to type "R-9". ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 12:29:48 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 10:52:46 2015. Oh but then I will get abuse that it was an R1 or R4 or R6. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 12:39:16 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Joe V on Mon Mar 2 12:29:48 2015. Not if you got them correct. For the record, most employees usually referred to them all as R-9s |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 2 22:54:05 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Mar 2 12:39:16 2015. They used to be called R-1/9's. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 23:20:30 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 2 22:54:05 2015. On the signage. Those of us who worked there called them arnines. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 00:03:10 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Mar 2 22:54:05 2015. Was that for all 4 months of your rail career, Walter? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Mar 3 00:06:26 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Dj Hammers on Sun Mar 1 22:35:28 2015. "Sandy related repair work." |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 00:07:55 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Mar 2 23:20:30 2015. Was that for all four months of your transit career, mitty? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 00:09:22 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 00:03:10 2015. Sorry, response not meant for you, |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Mar 3 01:08:29 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 3 00:07:55 2015. Hi, Uncle Leo. How's the hamburger? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 3 11:15:53 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by BrooklynTrain on Sun Mar 1 16:01:03 2015. In the summer when they would be held up at DeKalb they made an awesome air-conditioned waiting area for the arriving Brighton train across the platform.(They also made DeKalb Ave much hotter). |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Mar 3 13:39:39 2015, in response to No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Mar 1 14:02:39 2015. That did used to be the standard practice in such instances. But they haven't done it since the Brown M was abolished.Although I have no way of knowing this for sure, I think it's because they want the public to forget that a connection exists between the Nassau Street Line and the Montague Tunnel- they're afraid of a clamor to re-establish regular service there. My theory, anyway... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Mar 3 13:44:02 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Mar 1 22:30:26 2015. Do you know if the repairs are actually underway, or considering that there's no revenue service there, have the repairs been "deferred"...? |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Mar 3 13:47:01 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Mar 3 13:44:02 2015. That connection is very convenient to have even without revenue service, just in terms of GOs and train movements. A short, seamless link from the Eastern Division to the Southern Division. I think it's more essential than the Chrystie St Cut was when it went unused. I hope they take care of it. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Mar 3 15:17:44 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 1 20:45:24 2015. Yes, during the early 1980s. It sure didn't seem short during my commutes from Brooklyn to NYU.--Mark |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Mar 3 17:19:14 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Mar 3 13:39:39 2015. Public clambering can be quelled very easily buying a technique employed by one of the old time NYCTA schedule makers. Whenever a local politician would call to inquire about adding or increasing service, the S/M would simply reply that while it could be looked into, providing such an increase would jeopardize the existing fare structure. Nothing would ever be a heard about it again. |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 3 22:16:16 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by randyo on Tue Mar 3 17:19:14 2015. That, or they could use the G-to-Forest-Hills approach— print it on the maps and signs, and then cancel the service by GO. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Mar 4 08:39:29 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 3 22:16:16 2015. But they were able to get away with that on the G because that was during off-peak hours. They wouldn't be able to do that with a rush-hour service, which is presumably when a J extension to south Brooklyn would run. |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Mar 4 10:30:42 2015, in response to Re: No (J) Train to Prospect Park?, posted by MainR3664 on Tue Mar 3 13:39:39 2015. Maybe, but in over four years since the M was rerouted to 6th Ave, I haven't really seen or heard much clamor about restoring a Nassau-Montague service, outside of here on Subchat and (to a lesser extent) on Second Avenue Sagas. It may be that there really wasn't that much of a demand for that service, so it was easily expendable when the MTA had to cut services back in 2010. |
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