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Happy 50th Birthday |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014   |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 09:39:09 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. Only 50 years old? I thought it was older. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Fri Nov 21 12:01:29 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 09:39:09 2014. Nope. The other three bridges, connecting to New Jersey, date from the 1930's. Small wonder that Staten Island, where I lived 1982-3, had, at least to me, a New Jersey state of mind.Bob |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Nov 21 12:17:44 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. Beautiful, but not worth the $16 toll! |
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Posted by BMT Standard on Fri Nov 21 12:27:40 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. I remember crossing it 3 times on the day that it opened.Once by car (eastbound, I think that we went to New Jersey through the Holland Tunnel and came back via Staten Island), and then later that evening a round-trip bus ride from 95th St/4th Ave subway station. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 12:36:00 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Nov 21 12:17:44 2014. I have receipts from when the toll was 50 cents. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Nov 21 14:24:49 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. Moar pix here!--Mark |
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Posted by MR RT on Fri Nov 21 14:43:43 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Nov 21 14:24:49 2014. Non if would only FINISH that damm road in SI to the bridge |
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Posted by chud1 on Fri Nov 21 15:31:03 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. OUTSTANDING!chud2. :).... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 16:12:57 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. No rails, so offtopic.Although IIRC, the alternate PRR line that never got built that was supposed to diverge at Rahway NJ to cross Staten Island en route to Manhattan had plans for a suspension bridge between SI and Brooklyn. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 21 18:57:46 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. It reminds me of that Robert Moses scumbag. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 20:07:13 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Joe V on Fri Nov 21 18:57:46 2014. Amen to that! Planners were kickin around the idea of connecting the BMT 4th Ave subway to the then SIRT over the VZHe screamed long & hard that he didn't want any rapid transit,subway lines on the bridge. Of course, another fight that he won. BTW I remember the NY State DMV issuing license plates with the VZ as the first two letters on plates issued in Staten Island when the bridge opened. Useless trivia, but what the hell! |
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Posted by Renee gil on Fri Nov 21 21:01:35 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. Happy 50th Anniversary! |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 22 00:03:19 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. Happy Birthday to my favorite bridge! :)    Don't worry, I was not driving when the last two pics were taken :) |
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Posted by renee gil on Sat Nov 22 06:59:57 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by GIS Man on Fri Nov 21 12:01:29 2014. Bayonne Bridge opened in November 1931, while both the Outerbridge Crossing & Goethals Bridges opened in 1928. |
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Posted by renee gil on Sat Nov 22 07:02:04 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. The lower deck of the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge opened in June 1969. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Nov 22 10:09:29 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by MR RT on Fri Nov 21 14:43:43 2014. What should be finished is the Korean War Veterans Parkway, but politicians are too lame-brained, cheap, and cowardly to get that accomplished. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Nov 22 10:11:23 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 16:12:57 2014. Agreed-- not a happy birthday for rail travelers in Staten Island. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 22 16:05:50 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Nov 22 10:09:29 2014. The environmentalists stopped that one due to the possibility of some rare species of birds being deprived of their home. Birds and other animals are smarter than many humans and they would simply have relocated to either side of the completed parkway like the residents of Bay Ridge did when the access road to the V/N bridge was built through their neighborhood. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 22 16:08:07 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 20:07:13 2014. When I was in the 8th grade, my class was shown a slide show about the proposed lower deck of the GWB and the Narrows Bridge (the official name had not been decided on yet) and at the time it was indicated that both would have rapid transit on them. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sat Nov 22 19:02:18 2014, in response to Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Train Dude on Fri Nov 21 09:31:08 2014. The last hurrah for Robert Moses. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 22 22:02:15 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 22 16:08:07 2014. And could still if any MTA officials were serious about expanding transit. |
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Posted by pd11604 on Sun Nov 23 01:10:58 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 22 16:08:07 2014. I recall that too. The common thought at the time was that the lower level of the VZ would carry a train |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 23 04:22:18 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 22 16:08:07 2014. Anyone who knew Robert Moses knew that he would never allow trains on his bridge. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 23 04:23:58 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Nov 22 22:02:15 2014. No chance. The approaches needed to put subway lines on the bridge would die quick deaths due to NIMBYism. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:00:23 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Nov 21 09:39:09 2014. Opened November 21, 1964. There were humungous traffic jams caused by sightseers. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:01:30 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Nov 21 12:36:00 2014. I still remember when the toll on the Lincoln Tunnel was 50 cents one way. Then around 1969 they started collecting tolls in one direction only. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:13:59 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Nov 22 00:03:19 2014. I've ridden across the VZB twice - on July 21, 1965 (my first subway ride was a few hours later) and July 8, 1967 en route to JFK to meet my cousin, who was flying in from Paris. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:16:00 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by renee gil on Sat Nov 22 07:02:04 2014. IIRC that lower level was built along with the rest of the bridge, but wasn't put in service until '69. I've always been curios as to how much work needed to be done. Was it paved along with the upper level, or was the roadway poured just before the lower level opened? |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 10:35:19 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:16:00 2014. on a sadder note,when they were pouring concrete on the Brooklyn stanchon a worker fell in.3 other workers tried to save him and are forever intombed there.once a year there is a ceremony to commerate this tragic event.a boquet of flowers are placed on the waters. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 23 11:30:13 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 10:35:19 2014. I heard that story too. It was even mentioned by John Travolta in the movie "Saturday Night Fever"I also heard that the story is BS. The bouquet of flowers is placed on the waters for all of the workers who met an untimely death during construction & not just for the "entoumbed" |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 11:58:50 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 23 11:30:13 2014. the story is not bullshit,check it out on line.I remember when it happened,made all the news media. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 13:12:44 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:16:00 2014. I'm sure it was completed at the same time but wasn't expected to open until 1975. The sheer volume of traffic forced the earlier opening. The GW was built with the provision for a lower deck if the future called for it which it obviously did. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 13:42:06 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 13:12:44 2014. the l/l of the GWB was also designed for rail traffic. |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Nov 23 13:47:00 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Nov 23 10:16:00 2014. At the time of the bridge opening in 1964, the lower level was also complete except for street lights. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Nov 23 15:18:10 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 13:42:06 2014. the l/l of the GWB was also designed for rail traffic. .Your referring to Martha? Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 23 17:17:06 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 11:58:50 2014. "Of the three worker deaths during the construction of the bridge, one occurred when Gerard McKee, 19, fell through a gap where a portion of the chicken wire sidewall had been removed from a catwalk. The handsome, well-liked son of a veteran "boomer" (a bridge construction worker), he had followed his father into the risky trade. McKee slipped off the catwalk and was hanging by one hand when spotted by another worker, Edward Iannelli. Tragically and ironically, the dangerous nature of heavy construction and bridge-building had sealed McKee's fate: Iannelli's left hand had been permanently mauled in a previous bridge construction accident, and Iannelli was unable to drag McKee back to safety. When McKee finally lost his grip, the wind tore the shirt from his back as he plummeted nearly 300 feet to the water below."From Wikapedia...No mention of anyone being buried in concrete anywhere. Like I said, the "Buried in Concrete" story is bullshit |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sun Nov 23 17:49:52 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Nov 23 15:18:10 2014. Apparently if there was a Signora Verrazano her name is lost to history |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 17:57:03 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 23 17:17:06 2014. try the daily news |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 18:44:56 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 17:57:03 2014. You prove it. Find the reports from the internet that day. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Nov 23 19:14:20 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 23 04:23:58 2014. Not only that, I’m not sure if the bridges could support the weight of heavy rapid transit trains especially the V/N the construction of which was more directly under the control of Moses. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 19:25:02 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 18:44:56 2014. no.believe it or notI don,t care. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 20:04:03 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by randyo on Sun Nov 23 19:14:20 2014. Well each anchorage of the Verrazano can withstand the pull of a quarter of a billion pounds so I don't think that is an issue. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 20:05:50 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 19:25:02 2014. 10_4 |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Nov 23 20:25:32 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 20:04:03 2014. When the crooked pols (are there any others?) don't want to provide rail transit, they can usually find consultants who will write a scary report claiming that the bridge can't support rail. One fine example was a report generated when BART DIDN'T WANT to go over thye Golden Gate Bridge which had been engineered to accept underslung trackage. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Nov 23 23:41:10 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Nov 23 20:25:32 2014. I believe it that the pols will do that. But we know better. |
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Posted by renee gil on Sun Nov 23 23:55:12 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sun Nov 23 19:25:02 2014. it's false then.... |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Tue Nov 25 13:06:00 2014, in response to Re: Happy 50th Birthday, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Nov 23 15:18:10 2014. Yeah, he is :)--Mark |
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