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Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014           Designed by: PentagramImages: MTA's twitter, 2AvSagas New York's biggest subway hub opened Sunday in lower Manhattan — a vital link between the new World Trade Center and the rest of the city. The Metropolitan Transportation Authority inaugurated the $1.4 billion Fulton Center, a transit complex where many subway lines converge. "Welcome to the station of the 21st century," engineer Michael Horodniceanu, president of MTA's Capital Construction who led the work, told a gathering of transit and political officials, including Sen. Charles Schumer and Rep. Jerrold Nadler. Officials said the transit and retail hub will serve as Lower Manhattan's next great public space — encased in a glass-and-steel shell with a soaring, light-filled atrium. It also includes retail and office space. The federal government funded 90 percent and the state the rest of the project, which fills 180,000 square feet of new retail and office space, plus five old stations that were refurbished and linked. The center will accommodate up to 300,000 daily riders using the 2, 3, 4, 5 subway lines, plus the A, C, J, Z and R. A 350-foot tunnel was built leading to the World Trade Center's Santiago Calatrava-designed transit facility and the PATH commuter train to New Jersey. That tunnel will open sometime next year. After a decade of work following the destruction of the World Trade Center area and flooding from Superstorm Sandy in 2012, "we made it," Horodniceanu said. - AP |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:25:17 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. At the press conference, MTA has given out Fulton Center MetroCards and Fulton Center MetroCard holder to press and some visitors. |
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Posted by The ORION Kid on Sun Nov 9 17:25:22 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. Not open really they just let the media in today. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Nov 9 17:40:57 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars for these pictures.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Sun Nov 9 18:35:01 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. so the in fare control connection to the R will be open |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 9 18:46:17 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. It really isn't fully complete without the tunnel to PATH. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 9 18:58:26 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Nov 9 18:46:17 2014. Says you. And you're usually wrong. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Nov 9 19:28:24 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. nice photos |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 9 19:29:21 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. Ugh, I've had it with the stainless steel, polished metal look. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 20:17:27 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Union Tpke on Sun Nov 9 18:35:01 2014. No. That will be outside fare control. Those pics imply as much. |
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PIX 11 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 20:28:21 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. |
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ABC 7 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 20:31:29 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. |
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Posted by The Silence on Sun Nov 9 21:28:05 2014, in response to ABC 7 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 20:31:29 2014. Must be my inner foaming, but every time the use a Breda car as a lead in, I want to punch a wall. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 9 22:17:49 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 9 19:29:21 2014. Yeah, bring back the grimy cement walls. |
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Re: ABC 7 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Nov 9 22:35:02 2014, in response to Re: ABC 7 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by The Silence on Sun Nov 9 21:28:05 2014. I know what you mean...Using a LAMTA subway car frame,while talking about our system is sort of a slap in the face. I know they have plenty of stock footage.. why not use that? |
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Posted by The silence on Sun Nov 9 22:35:15 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. One detail I would like them to finally clarify is how the names work.IE, effective 5AM tomorrow, the entire station complex is now "Fulton Center" and that will be the name on signs, train announcements and maps? Or is Fulton Center just the entrance/mall structure and the station areas remain Fulton Street? Because the MTA and the media have always played this, at least as far as I can tell, like it's the former. And the media seems to want to play this up as all new construction, not a complex ranging from brand new to 109 years old. Heck, on Wikiepdia they are two seperate articles. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 9 22:58:26 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by The silence on Sun Nov 9 22:35:15 2014. I believe the station names will remain Fulton St. |
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(Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 23:12:37 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Union Tpke on Sun Nov 9 18:35:01 2014. Still no "free" transfer to R train platforms unless they could put a chain fence barrier boundary between non-paying and paying customers. http://instagram.com/p/vMnqhyIbqN/ |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:22:17 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 9 22:17:49 2014. I guess I'm going to spoil the feel good party.Saw video on TV. Apparently the feds paid for it. Based on people racing to get to trains and exit, some of the money would have been better spent aiding people who have not yet recovered from Sandy......even though this project is 9/11 recovery. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:26:33 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:22:17 2014. Just too fancy for my taste. It's the subway for goodness sakes, not the atrium of a cruise ship. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 23:31:42 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:22:17 2014. Given that this was funded and construction started well before the hurricane, that makes no sense. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:39:14 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 23:31:42 2014. I clearly said it was 9/11 recovery. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 23:40:21 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:39:14 2014. Yes you did. You said other things too. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Sun Nov 9 23:45:49 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 23:40:21 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:52:10 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 9 23:40:21 2014. ok good. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 00:08:14 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. As elaborate as that is, one would think that it was instead the concourse of a new "Union Station" joining NJT's Hoboken Division with the LIRR's Atlantic Avenue Branch. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 10 00:15:25 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 9 19:29:21 2014. Some of us like SS. OTOH unless I misinterpret the pix they are using linear fluorescents--very 20th century. I have only been buying LEDs for several years now. (and they keep getting cheaper) |
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Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 10 03:22:34 2014, in response to (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 23:12:37 2014. I see the problem:That said, they did eventually do that when the first had the transfer between the Pacific Street Station and the two Atlantic Avenue Stations (of course, now all Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center) in 1978. Maybe they can do something similar. |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Nov 10 05:01:16 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:26:33 2014. IAWTP!chud1. |
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Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 10 07:48:23 2014, in response to (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 23:12:37 2014. How do you know it is not a free transfer? It could be free (if such was needed) via your MetroCard, if they so wanted to do so.LION thinks this is not necessary, it is not so much a transfer point as it is an access to the neighborhood, and all of the trains therein. LION seas no reason to switch to an (R) there, that can be done elsewhere. (14th Street). There is no place in lower Manhattan that the (R) serves that is not also easily accessible to the other trains. Or am I wrong? Somebody always tells me that I am wrong. Who cares. Peepholes will still make their whey to wrok witho or without the transfer (or the LION). ROAR |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 10 07:59:20 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. Nice pictures. I'm glad this project is finally complete, especially after the setbacks and near-cancellations.I'll try to check it out today. |
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Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Nov 10 08:21:59 2014, in response to Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 10 03:22:34 2014. They did it between the IRT and Brighton Line Atlantic Ave. stations. Pacific Street stayed separate. Later, when Pacific Street was included in the free transfer, that barrier came down, but I don't believe the corridor between the IRT and Pacific Street was ever divided. |
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Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 10 08:33:27 2014, in response to Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 10 07:48:23 2014. Why do you bother posting here? I mean seriously. What do you ADD to the conversation?? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 10 08:48:36 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 10 07:59:20 2014. Nice pictures.Did you assume he took those photos? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Nov 10 09:37:51 2014, in response to Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 10 07:48:23 2014. huh? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Nov 10 12:06:38 2014, in response to Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Nov 10 07:48:23 2014. "LION seas no reason to switch to an (R) there, that can be done elsewhere. (14th Street). There is no place in lower Manhattan that the (R) serves that is not also easily accessible to the other trains."At the "new" South Ferry Station transfers between the #1 and the R, at first glance does not "seem" to be useful, but turned out to be very useful. The "new" South Ferry Station also brought about benefits when it came to repairs on the tunnels that the #2 & #3 trains use to reach Brooklyn. Until the new station opened in 2009 (and was later damaged by Hurricane Sandy), both the South Ferry and the Whitehall Street stations were separate stations, with separate entrances, etc. Similarly in Brooklyn at Atlantic Avenue in the 1980's the Atlantic Avenue station consisted of the #2, #3, #4 and #5 lines, and the D, M and QB trains on the Brighton line. The Pacific Street station was a separate stations with its own entrances, and a small "extra fare" tunnel that connected the stations from the Brooklyn-bound #2 and #3 platform. Connecting and renovating the whole complex has brought about many benefits for the riders. So far, as I understand it, the Dey Street underground passageway is simply to connect the entire World Trade Center complex and the Fulton Transit Center WITHOUT the riders having to venture outside. Many cities have underground passageways that connect office and shopping centers as well as transit facilities. Mike |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Nov 10 12:53:25 2014, in response to Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 17:16:58 2014. Whata waste of the taxpayers' money! This boondoggle could have been scaled down more modestly! |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 10 14:34:16 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 9 22:58:26 2014. However, the station name for the R Line which is accessible from Fulton center is called “Cortlandt St." |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Nov 10 15:03:08 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:26:33 2014. Definitely too fancy for just a subway station. But it is supposed to be a shopping mall also (the upper floors). So we'll see how it goes when those floors open.Presumably, the upper (retail) floors will be closed off during nighttime hours. So I hope that they will include amenities that suburban malls generally have, such as restrooms (that are kept clean), and perhaps water fountains and even some benches or chairs that shoppers can sit down on to rest. |
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Posted by Q4 on Mon Nov 10 15:07:08 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Nov 10 15:03:08 2014. There are restrooms in the main area. The mall portion has full time staff to maintain and provide security in the "non-subway" areas. |
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Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 10 15:21:41 2014, in response to Re: (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 10 08:33:27 2014. Nothing but stupid typographical tricks. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 10 15:22:54 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 10 08:48:36 2014. Why do think that? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 10 15:40:39 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Q4 on Mon Nov 10 15:07:08 2014. Per MTA press release:Westfield will be subletting the commercial space in the facility and leasing the digital advertising. The firm will manage the retail/commercial space plus some 60,000-square-feet of public circulation areas and 63,000-square-feet of mechanical and other “back-of-house” space. This includes the majority of the non-station areas of the Fulton Center complex, most prominently, the new glass and steel Fulton Building at the southeast corner of Broadway and Fulton Street; the historic Corbin Building at the northeast corner of Broadway and John Street; the Dey Street Head House at the southwest corner of Broadway and Dey Street; and the concourse under Dey Street that will connect to the future World Trade Center PATH Station. With limited exceptions, Westfield will be responsible for, operating and maintaining the space and making required repairs throughout the lease term. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 10 15:41:37 2014, in response to (Dey Street connection to R train) Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 23:12:37 2014. Per MTA press release:A new 350-foot-long pedestrian tunnel constructed under Dey Street between Broadway and Church Street will expand intermodal transit options by offering a connection to the R Subway Line Icon line, built outside of fare control, and ultimately to PATH trains at the World Trade Center complex. These transit options will expand to include transfers to the E Subway Line Icon when the World Trade Center Transit Hub opens, and the 1 Subway Line Icon line once the Cortlandt Street Station is rebuilt. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Nov 10 15:48:10 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 10 15:22:54 2014. Because normally you give compliments on the pictures to the photographer. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 10 16:10:08 2014, in response to Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 9 23:26:33 2014. That's why I said this about it. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Nov 10 16:15:26 2014, in response to PIX 11 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Gold_12th on Sun Nov 9 20:28:21 2014. Ha! Still Broadway-Nassau on the A/C. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Nov 10 17:23:23 2014, in response to Re: PIX 11 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Nov 10 16:15:26 2014. No, the station is now called “Fulton St." |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Nov 10 18:05:22 2014, in response to Re: PIX 11 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by randyo on Mon Nov 10 17:23:23 2014. Re-watch the news clip. It shows a map saying "Fulton St, Broadway-Nassau" and the pop-up for A and C trains also says "Broadway-Nassau" |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Nov 10 23:40:52 2014, in response to Re: PIX 11 news report... Re: Fulton Center opens today (pics), posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Nov 10 18:05:22 2014. That must be an old map. |
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