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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:09 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:13:25 2014.

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No I didn't. There was no original lie and there was no follow up lie. I have absolutely no history of lying.

I linked right to your lies. Oh, and here's another one. Which means you lied again right now.

Irrelevant. Remember the context.

So you seriously don't think Person B's response was appropriate given the circumstances?

Just to recap—

Person A says: "I've kidnapped your son and I'm going to rape and murder him unless you pay me $10 million (although I might just rape him if you give me $5 million) and there's nothing you can do because I've barricaded myself in your office. You know, the one you fired me from just because I embezzled from a few clients' accounts. In fact, here's a photo of me and your decidedly distressed son proving that I'm not making this up. You have two hours to bring me the ransom— none of us are leaving this office alive if you don't but I'll let you have an extra two hours if you publicly announce that you were responsible for my embezzlement."

Person B replies: "YOU'RE AN ABSOLUTE ASSHOLE! You can go fuck yourself and die if you think you'll get any compromise out of me! In fact, guess what, fucker? I'm gonna kill you right now. See if I don't!"

If you think Person B's response wasn't civil enough despite the circumstances, what should he have said? What would you have said?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:12 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:14:01 2014.

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Be careful— you're at risk of drowning as you admire your reflection.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:15 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:18:53 2014.

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The only coherent relevant part of your post was about bolt cutters and my previous post addressed that and how it didn't show that you didn't want to trespass.

No, your previous post indicated that you lack the reading comprehension skills to understand what I said.

LOL, anyone who has any interest in the subject and who is isn't a complete moron already knows what the ROW is like! We assumed you were already aware of that! That's why we answered as we did!

Ah, right. You lack a theory of mind. You know that the ROW is dangerously overgrown, and you aren't capable of understanding that other people are different, so you assume everyone must know the fine details of abandoned rail lines in the remoter parts of Queens.

Sane people, on the other hand, actually did respond appropriately.

We rightly understood your post as asking how you could trespass without destroying property or doing anything dangerous or overly difficult.

Nope. You misunderstood. You really need to understand nuance and context— otherwise you'll just keep making a fool of yourself.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Oct 24 08:21:36 2014.

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No really. I can't control what has been moved.

Then link to intact threads. It's not like there's a shortage of them.

Just because something has been deleted doesn't mean SelkirkTMO didn't have a meltdown.

Just because you claim he had a meltdown and that you would have proff if only it weren't deleted doesn't mean that Selkirk actually had a meltdown.

I think it's pretty clear he had a meltdown.

You think a lot of things that aren't true.

Why else would he "quit" SubChat?

He obviously didn't.

And it's pretty clear he was not being civil.

Not out of context. Refer to the hypothetical exchange between parties A and B.

Why else would he accuse our esteemed owner Larry as not having any balls? Larry hardly if ever posts here. So I think it's a safe assumption that Larry didn't say anything that warranted that response.

The accusation of not having balls generally refers to a lack of action. If I recall, you were making rather a mess at the time— whatever you did to Larry, he didn't ban you and he bent over backwards to protect you despite your shenanigans. I suspect that may have served as the basis for Selkirk's statement, Brian Weinberg— after all, the evidence of your little snit remains embedded in SubChat to this day.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Oct 24 09:21:16 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:18 2014.

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Would you kindly focus more on posting about trains rather than this noisy and pointless ad hominem junk? Thanks in advance.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Oct 24 10:16:51 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 19:46:09 2014.

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If you asked about specifics of a method of entering a particular place that appears to be inaccessible, any relevant answer you received would have to be followed quite literally in order to work. It doesn't seem unreasonable then to think that any restrictions you put on the particular solution you were looking for were also meant literally.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 10:56:00 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 07:35:38 2014.

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Lol!!!!!

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 10:56:23 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 24 07:38:50 2014.

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:)

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 10:59:30 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 07:23:06 2014.

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Lol!!!! Think what you want. People know your crap.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:01:17 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Oct 24 09:21:16 2014.

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Great post. As usual....another drawn out, autistic, long, click back when you see it, Nilet post

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:02:42 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 07:55:03 2014.

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Lol....is anyone seriously going to spend the time reading that instead of clicking "back".

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Oct 24 11:07:44 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:31:29 2014.

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Many years ago, the two tracks between 103d & 111st under the flyover express track were used for off hour layups. Between 111 & Willets Point. I'd see rush hr put-ins heading twoards Main St on the track adjacent to the Manhattan bound local track.

To this day, trains being taken out of service after the rush hr.will make 111st the last stop then head to the yard.

Perhaps your mom was on one of the trains that was being taken out of service.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 24 11:58:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 10:59:30 2014.

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woah. kudos on your use of "your". normally, i get vexed when i see people confuse "your" and "you're". idk, guess i'm anal about it. but the context of that post allows use of both iterations depending on how a reader interpets it. impressive :).

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 24 12:13:33 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:09 2014.

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this will be my only response ever to anything you ever poat on this TRAIN-RELATED web site: the scenario you described is indicative of a severely disturbed individual. please stay away from any children you might know. if you ever came anywhere near any child and i was in the vicinity and i knew it was you i would unhesitatingly apply a baseball bat to your skull until you life force departed you. turn yourself into the nearest police department. you are not fit to associate with anyone.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Oct 24 13:09:15 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Thu Oct 23 23:33:07 2014.

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Oh please. You lie all the time, such as right here where you blatantly denied doing the "g-d" thing.

Prime example of your failure to spot nuance and context.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 14:13:41 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 24 11:58:18 2014.

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Haha!!! Yes either would be correct in that context.....I am even kind of liking the unintended correct alternative you painted our.... :)

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 14:14:24 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 14:13:41 2014.

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Damn auto correct....
.pointed out....

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 14:16:30 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Oct 24 13:09:15 2014.

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Good post.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 24 15:01:54 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 14:14:24 2014.

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I shut that off. until our boxes achieve sentience, bite me, lifeless algorithm.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Oct 24 15:16:53 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 00:58:42 2014.

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Never.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 24 16:05:00 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 24 09:12:18 2014.

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You're wrong on all points. Also, SelkirkTMO did quit SubChat. But like almost all the posters who made a big stink on their way out, he came crawling back. People like them crave the attention that comes with leaving and returning. It seems that only the people who leave quietly actually stay gone and don't come back. Makes sense.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by b1bus on Fri Oct 24 16:51:01 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 17:10:50 2014.

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Transit Museum tour that was given many moons ago?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Oct 24 17:41:35 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 21 08:40:46 2014.

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The local part is almost unavoidable, but it would mean linking more of Queens together, and a one seat ride to 6th Ave or Broadway, if they reroute either the M or R (my preference is the M for operational reasons). Connecting the route to the J line would mean a faster connection to midtown, but a big chunk of the ROW (and the neighborhoods it goes through) will be missed.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 19:39:47 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by b1bus on Fri Oct 24 16:51:01 2014.

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Many years....not months....

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 24 20:03:43 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 19:39:47 2014.

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That is what he meant kid.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 21:11:58 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Oct 24 20:03:43 2014.

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Oops.....saw it as months not moons.....lol. Actually it was several tours.....many moons ago.... :)

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 25 01:37:04 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:31:29 2014.

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I hope somebody photographed those BMT signs at Main St. while they were still in place. If they were removed prior to the transit museum, we all know unfortunately where they went, unless some intrepid, railfan in the know was able to get their hands on one.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 25 01:49:00 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:34:29 2014.

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re: others on here have explained why it was still considered part of an El,

There's been long periods between when I've not gotten on subchat, so I haven't seen those threads. Do you remember the subject line of one, or do you remember the reason why?

I know it was chained with 9th ave. el distance numbers and a 9th ave. le, line, route letter.

Was it also because the 3rd rail power source from 155th to some point beyond Jerome-Anderson, was considered part of the power distribution system sourced for the 9th ave. el?
(don't know this latter point for sure, just speculating)

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Oct 25 04:31:04 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:31:29 2014.

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Supposedly, all the way into the '80s, there were signs at 111 St or 103 St directing people to take the 2nd Ave el. I remember the Daily News making a stink about obsolete and inaccurate subway signage, and that was a prime example.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 25 05:06:49 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Oct 25 04:31:04 2014.

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I think the web master of the Forgotten New York got a photo of one, not quite sure whether it was the actual sign, or a picture of it as part of a collage art piece at the station.

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 25 15:11:17 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Oct 25 04:31:04 2014.

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I don''t know how long they remained there, but at least into the '60s, there were signs at various stations along the Jerome Line indicating trains to Manhattan via 6 and 9 Avenue elevated.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Oct 24 16:05:00 2014.

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Also, SelkirkTMO did quit SubChat.

Proff?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:43 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Oct 24 10:16:51 2014.

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I didn't ask about specifics; I asked if it was possible at all.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:43 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 10:56:00 2014.

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Aw, you didn't understand it?

I'm afraid that's as dumbed down as I can make it. Maybe your caretaker can help translate it for you.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:01:17 2014.

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Wow, you really have no self-awareness, do you?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:49 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Oct 24 09:21:16 2014.

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You're addressing that to the wrong person...

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:50 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 10:59:30 2014.

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You've been flinging yours at everyone for months. I suspect that's liable to be remembered.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:53 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:02:42 2014.

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Once again, you jump into an exchange I'm having with someone else and declare, in response to a post specifically directed at that other person, that you can't be bothered to read something not written for you in the first place.

Although I do think it's cute that the best insult you can think of is: "I'm not smart enough to understand anything Nilet says!"

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 24 12:13:33 2014.

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the scenario you described is indicative of a severely disturbed individual.

Well duh. The whole point is to demonstrate, with all the subtlety of an anvil to the face, that it is impossible to determine whether a response is appropriate without any knowledge of the thing being responded to.

please stay away from any children you might know. if you ever came anywhere near any child and i was in the vicinity and i knew it was you blah blah blah blah

Hold up, do you seriously believe an author necessarily holds the mindset of his characters? That Eric Blair is a dictator? That Vladimir Nabokov is a pedophile? That Lovecraft was an eldritch abomination?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:59 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Oct 24 13:09:15 2014.

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So what nuance and context have I allegedly missed?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:01:01 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by 3-9 on Fri Oct 24 17:41:35 2014.

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I suppose another option would be to restore it to LIRR service— even with the FRA, you can still run LIRR trains as far as Howard Beach by shifting the subway tracks to one side and putting LIRR tracks on the other.

Alternatively, cut back the A to Howard Beach and turn the Rockaway line back over to the LIRR— three trains an hour is probably about what the Rockaways get now, so if the Rockaway service uses subway fares then it'd be a major boost.

Or maybe charge standard LIRR fares but offer discount monthly passes to Rockaway residents good on subways, buses, and LIRR Rockaway trains.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 17:03:37 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 17:00:43 2014.

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So then you got your answer long ago. Get through a break in the fence where the ROW is on an embankment and not a viaduct, then bushwhack your way to the Ozone Park Station.



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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 18:17:14 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by AlM on Sat Oct 25 17:03:37 2014.

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Indeed I did. Unfortunately, a break in the fence isn't really the same thing as open, so it seems I won't be able to make the trip. :(

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 25 22:41:07 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:31:29 2014.

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Are all of you forgetting the Broadway-Brooklyn wooden gate cars that operated to Canal Street until August, 1927? Not to mention the 2 prototype oddball "C" cars that were tested on the B'way-Bklyn in the winter of 1921.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 23:07:28 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Fri Oct 24 12:13:33 2014.

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+10

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by randyo on Sat Oct 25 23:09:26 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 25 22:41:07 2014.

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I guess that’s where and when my friend said he spotted the C types on the Jamaica Line. They probably ran from Jamaica to Chambers.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 23:12:07 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 23:07:28 2014.

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Did you actually read either his post or mine or are you just mindlessly agreeing with anybody who disagrees with me?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 23:42:03 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 23:12:07 2014.

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The term "mindless" takes on significant diffences when applied to you as opposed to a normal person.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sat Oct 25 23:42:55 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by train dude on Sat Oct 25 23:42:03 2014.

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So that's a "no" to the actually reading posts and a "yes" to the mindless programmed response?

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Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?

Posted by Express Rider on Sun Oct 26 03:21:54 2014, in response to Re: What year were wooden cars finally banned from subway tunnels?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Oct 25 22:41:07 2014.

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Thank you very much for these details. What is the source for the prototype C's testing on B'way Bklyn? Brooklyn Eagle archive or another rail publication, that if I have, I maybe didn't read thorougly, or just remember this.

And B'way Brooklyn cars operating to Canal Stree until 1927?
Yeah, I must be forgetting this. I know that probably I would have heard this while talking to somebody. Again, I thought el cars operated to Chambers til the late teens or early 20's t best.
Again if have the source for this I'd love to find it.
Either of the above sources, or an old service guide on the back
of those 1920s BMt maps?
thanks.

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