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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:02:44 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 15 17:37:26 2014.

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LOL!!

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:03:11 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by northshore on Wed Oct 15 23:20:53 2014.

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gee whiz ya think??

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:03 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:02:44 2014.

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Something funny?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:05 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:02:20 2014.

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????

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:06 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 17:14:40 2014.

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Seriously? The best insult you can think of is: "You're not omniscient!"

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:08 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 17:12:05 2014.

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You must have posted this in the wrong thread.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:10 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 17:10:50 2014.

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Your assumption that presence in an abandoned station only involves trespassing is absurd at best.

Reading comprehension really isn't your thing, is it?

I never made that assumption, nor have I tried to argue that claim. I have pointed out that rkba made that claim, which is self-evidently absurd.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:50:31 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:05 2014.

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You don't understand???

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:50:50 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:03 2014.

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Yes!

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 20:04:18 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 18:34:10 2014.

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No he did not.....and you twisting what he said in your fetish arguing isn't going to work.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 19 20:08:34 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Oct 14 11:41:40 2014.

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A little before service was terminated there I did catch a train from Union Hall Street to Hempstead, around, I think, 1976. Liked waiting on that platform in the real "heart" of Jamaica. Brought back memories of when my mom used to shop on Jamaica Avenue.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 20:10:52 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 17:14:40 2014.

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Who's trying to insult? It was a true straight statement. If I wanted to insult.....your personal hygiene would be an easy insult among other things.
There's nothing insulting about a true statement about how you post here.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 19 20:18:30 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 20:04:18 2014.

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Yes, he did.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Oct 19 20:23:57 2014, in response to How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Tue Oct 14 08:05:38 2014.

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Wait for LIRR service to be restored on the line.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 20:28:10 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by ntrainride on Sun Oct 19 20:08:34 2014.

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Wow, you're old.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Oct 19 20:43:34 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Oct 18 10:09:46 2014.

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Also rabid Raccoon's might live there. They do NOT run from Humans either.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:27 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:50:31 2014.

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With anyone else, I'd say it was a joke but you're normally too literal-minded to manage that.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:29 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 18:50:50 2014.

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Care to explain?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:31 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 20:04:18 2014.

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No he did not

Yes, he did. Just there. Also here.

and you twisting what he said in your fetish...

EW! Could you please keep your fetishes off SubChat? I do not need to hear them.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:35 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 20:10:52 2014.

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Who's trying to insult? It was a true straight statement.

Correct, I am not omniscient. However, you phrased it as an insult.

If I wanted to insult.....your personal hygiene would be an easy insult among other things.

Only in the same sense as pointing to your statutory rape conviction would be an "easy" way to insult you.

There's nothing insulting about a true statement about how you post here.

Actually, your statements were not true (unless you go with the tortured interpretation I offered). But then, I'm used to seeing you shrieking in jealous impotent rage about how much better than you I am without even trying.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:38 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Oct 19 20:23:57 2014.

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I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 19 20:46:34 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 20:28:10 2014.

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He might not even be 60 yet. I've ridden the whole Bronx portion of the 3rd Ave El, the whole Myrtle Ave El, and the Culver Shuttle, and I don't feel old. :)



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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:54:44 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 19 20:46:34 2014.

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As someone who never got to ride the J to Queens Boulevard— yep, you're old. :)

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 22:20:54 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 19 20:46:34 2014.

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You're old too.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 19 22:36:30 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 17:17:12 2014.

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That's where they lay their eggs. Running water isn't suitable.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 22:59:31 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:35 2014.

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Difference is.....your statement about me is totally made up and absurd....while your personally hygiene has been confirmed by many here who have met you and easily confirmed

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Oct 19 23:17:56 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Oct 19 20:43:34 2014.

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Good point. I've also seen some rats that one would want to avoid. The ROW may very well have some refugees from the subway lurking about-- or they could have made their way up the abandoned ramp from the underground section of the LIRR, and who knows what sort of creatures humans have deposited there over the years.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 23:24:52 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Oct 19 23:17:56 2014.

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You may have missed this: Re: Penn Station Taxi Roadway… (1311414)

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by rkba on Sun Oct 19 23:33:59 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 23:24:52 2014.

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Probably just doesn't give a fuck. Clearly that annoys you.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 20 00:40:12 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 19 20:45:38 2014.

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It will never happen. I was being sarcastic.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 00:57:34 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Oct 19 20:28:10 2014.

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You think that's old? I rode the 3 Av el from So.Fy to Gun Hill as a child, the Fulton St el from Atlantic to Lefferts pre IND and worked as a M/M on the Myrtle Av el.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 00:58:42 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 20 00:40:12 2014.

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Maybe NYCT?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 01:49:10 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 00:57:34 2014.

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History past. "Gone dead train" (name of a cut off the Performance soundtrack album.)

My Dad remembers having to go down to police headquarters* during the 30s as a teenager, he remembered viewing the South Ferry complex from street level, and told me, "All I remember is that there were els everywhere."

* had to ID suspects in a robbery he and a friend were caught in, up in Middletown, NY where he lived.

- And what were the Q's like to operate during the last decade or so of their lives?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 02:19:42 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 01:49:10 2014.

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The Q cars were the original gate cars, just heavily modified. They were gone out of service by the time I got there, but did get to play with gate cars at Branford. The brake handle was on the left, and a good bit higher than later cars. The controllers though were an absolute hoot. Ever been on a good old fashioned Otis freight elevator with the elevator manual controller? Worked exactly the same way! :)

Tried to find image of BMT controller, couldn't find it quickly, but it was similar to this:



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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 20 03:33:25 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sun Oct 19 22:59:31 2014.

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Difference is.....your statement about me is totally made up and absurd

Heh. About that...

You're a bit slow on the uptake, aren't you boy?

while your personally hygiene has been confirmed by many here who have met you and easily confirmed

Yes, and your statutory rape conviction has been confirmed by me personally.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 20 04:54:26 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Oct 20 00:40:12 2014.

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Yes, I'm well aware.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 20 04:55:36 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 00:58:42 2014.

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Only about halfway— they'll use it for a Rockaway service via Jamaica/Broadway and 6th Avenue.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 20 07:24:08 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 02:19:42 2014.

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The last time I was in a building with passenger elevator operators was in 1992, at Broadway and Chambers St., it looked like it hadn't even been dusted for 70 years.

Said building now looks to have been converted to multimillion dollar residences. I'm sure the elevators were updated as well.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 20 07:27:47 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Oct 17 08:49:06 2014.

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Wow... Nearly (there's graffiti) illustration of "life after people"...

This is the effects of 29 years of abandonment..

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 20 07:30:48 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 17 09:08:20 2014.

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I believe (I think I heard it on this board, actually), that a claim of adverse possession is not valid against the government, including NYS & NYC...

Having said that, the chances of this line ever seeing any kind of service again are somewhere between nil and "don't count on it"...

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 20 07:33:55 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat Oct 18 10:23:42 2014.

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I remembered that from way back..I wondered if they still did...

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 07:56:07 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 20 07:24:08 2014.

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The municipal building was like that, aging and not taken care of, but showing it's age was like a time machine back a few decades, feeling as though if you stepped off the elevator on the ground floor, downstairs you get a train of D-types or 2700-2800 ABs when they were relatively new...

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 08:10:26 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 02:19:42 2014.

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Thanks, & thanks for the picture - will see if I can find the image of a BMT controller.

I actually did get to ride the Q's, during the spring and early summer of '68, when someone told me they were still operating, I got myself down there within a couple of months. Took some B & W photos of them, which I can't share since I don't have a scanner at home.

I was on the final ERA trip the day after closure, in October '69. Took some color slides that day.

Unfortunately, missed the gate cars, they were still operating when I was eight years old (1958), but my Dad wasn't Brooklyn person, so he didn't know anything about them.

I was in the first grade when the C's were still operating. I like to think that if he'd known about them we'd have driven down from Queens Village (lived at intersection of Hillside & Springfield) to ride them.

His experience was with the west side IRT (he remembers the Hi-V locals) and the IND, parents married in '44 lived in NYC as my Dad finished Dental School till 1950 when he went into the service for Korea.

They lived on the upper west side, then down on 12th street - that's when my Dad got to take the Bluebirds once, to Eighth Ave. on the Canarsie Line.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 20 09:48:43 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 20 07:27:47 2014.

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And who knows now.....it's almost 25 years since those photos were taken!!! I wonder what it looks like now...

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 12:06:26 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 08:10:26 2014.

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Yep ... you and I seem to be the same age, and never got to Brooklyn myself until 1968 for the first time. Bronx boy and all that. The two boroughs always seemed to have that rivalry of "you only go to (the other one) to get killed." Heh.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 12:11:28 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 02:19:42 2014.

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Some of the original Chicago el cars had a similar controller before they were changed to the more modern type and the CTA old timers described the originals as "elevator types."

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 12:18:53 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 20 04:55:36 2014.

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Why not from Whitepot Jct (63 Dr/Qns Blvd) as originally intended?

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Oct 20 12:23:00 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 02:19:42 2014.

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How about this?



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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 12:38:59 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by randyo on Mon Oct 20 12:11:28 2014.

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Yep ... MP54's had them too. They were quite popular in the beginning because Otis and WH made very durable little rockers.

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Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Oct 20 14:16:14 2014, in response to Re: How To Get Into Ozone Park LIRR Station, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 20 12:06:26 2014.

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I was lucky I guess with timing. Also, a year or so earlier, read about the Canarsie grade crossing at 105th. So I spent a weekend in '66 or '67 in the Bronx (right above the IRT at 242nd) rail fanning with the son of friends of the family. He wasn't a buff, but being a techie, had an interest in the subway.

We took the A to 14th, then the Canarsie out to Rock Parkway and back - first time I rode AB's, did the Brighton Line to Coney, then the Sea Beach back to Manhattan. Typical rail fan weather for pictures - grey, overcast and drizzly most of the time.

Somehow we wound up on the IRT and did the City Hall loop, the lights were not on. Then, back to the Bronx. I had a camera, he took his movie picture, got films of 105th etc. Haven't seen him since New Years, '68 or '69. Who knows where the film is now.

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