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Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 2 16:36:14 2014

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On the Metro system in Paris, if one wishes to transfer from Line 9 to Line 10, the station of transfer depends on the direction desired with Line 10. That is, if one wishes to go westbound on Line 10 one would change at Michel Ange Auteuil, but if one wishes to go eastbound one would change at Michel Ange Molitor.

Does anybody know of other cases like this on heavy-rail rapid transit systems throughout the world? I wouldn't count branch lines (like the Northern Line on London Underground which has multiple points of transfer with some other lines due to its varying branches) but rather instances when you would change from one line at a different station in order to go in a totally opposite direction, on the line you are transferring to.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Sep 2 18:35:19 2014, in response to Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 2 16:36:14 2014.

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You neglected to mention the reason for this unusual transfer. The 10 line splits into 2 branches (2 separate tunnels) -- one going one-way west and the other going one-way east --- on either side of its intersection with the 9 line. Thus, each branch crosses the 9 line at a different 9-line station, the two you mentioned.

For this situation to be replicated elsewhere, you would need a similar split in a line into two separate one-way tunnels or els, one for each direction. And then each branch would have to cross an intersecting line at a different transfer station. This would be a highly unlikely occurrence.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by andy on Tue Sep 2 22:28:24 2014, in response to Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 2 16:36:14 2014.

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Until about two years ago the NYC transfer between B,D,F and 6 train at Broadway-Lafayette and Bleecker only permitted transfer to or from the Downtown 6. For example, if traveling northbound from Brooklyn on the B or D, it was necessary to transfer to the 4 or 5 at Atlantic Avenue, and then pick up the 6 at Brooklyn Bridge or 14th Street. Another option would be to transfer to the M or E in Manhattan (West 4th) and pick up the 6 at 51st - 53rd Street and Lexington.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by The silence on Tue Sep 2 23:06:55 2014, in response to Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 2 16:36:14 2014.

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Well, any time a subway line is split for whatever reason, so that one direction has to operate on line it does not usually use.

Say Manhattan bound A and C service running through Cranberry and Brooklyn bound through Rutgers.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by WillD on Wed Sep 3 00:52:12 2014, in response to Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 2 16:36:14 2014.

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In Hong Kong cross platform interchanges are done at Tiu Keng Leng and Yau Tong stations. You'd be able to make transfers against the grain at those stations, but if you'd stayed on one more stop (or gotten off a stop earlier) you'd have a cross platform transfer. Wuhan also has multi-station cross platform interchanges, and I believe the Taipei metro is designed to have them eventually.



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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Sep 3 08:13:28 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by WillD on Wed Sep 3 00:52:12 2014.

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Wow! That's interesting. Thanks.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by Michael549 on Wed Sep 3 11:05:09 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by WillD on Wed Sep 3 00:52:12 2014.

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Are these transfer stations built on top of each other, say, similar to the Parsons-Archer station in Queens? Two levels of center island platform stations with tracks on both sides of the island platforms? Just wondering.

Mike



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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Sep 3 12:12:37 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by Michael549 on Wed Sep 3 11:05:09 2014.

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Yes. Here are Wikipedia articles for Yau Tong and Tiu Keng Leng.

The stations are approximately 2.1 km apart.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Sep 3 12:54:06 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by The silence on Tue Sep 2 23:06:55 2014.

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Or F trains running via 53rd Street in one direction, and via 63rd Street in the other.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 3 15:13:43 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by WillD on Wed Sep 3 00:52:12 2014.

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Not the same setup as in Paris.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 4 03:10:49 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by WillD on Wed Sep 3 00:52:12 2014.

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great map insert. looks like left hand driving too.

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Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10)

Posted by WillD on Thu Sep 4 08:06:28 2014, in response to Re: Unique Transfer on Paris Metro (Lines 9 and 10), posted by italianstallion on Wed Sep 3 15:13:43 2014.

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Yeah, I misread the OP when I posted. But it's still a different sort of interchange station.

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