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Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014

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Eliminating the unlimited ride metrocard and the pay-per-ride metrocard bonus and instead giving a 3-hour unlimited ride period.

That would solve some of the money problem.

Pony up $113 for unlimited ride metrocard for 30 days.

OR...

$5x24 days= $120 six days a week usage for four weeks.

Passengers have less of a formidable upfront payment and the MTA makes more money.


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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 14:01:48 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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Disagree.....I use the 7-day express bus card whenever possible...lets me take the subway for mid-day and evening trips as well...fantastic!!!

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Fri Aug 29 14:36:56 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 29 14:01:48 2014.

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Without the Unlimited Metrocard, the MTA would actually make far less money off me, since I would combine Manhattan trips and spend one REALLY long day in the city (10am to midnight) to save additional subway fares, instead of 4 or 5 separate round-trips spread out over several days.

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by RailBus63 on Fri Aug 29 15:27:11 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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I agree. The days of excess midday and weekend capacity are over.

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by r17-6599 on Fri Aug 29 18:46:58 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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Oh sure. This in an era when many transit agencies are actually ELIMINATING fares altogether. Let the MTA try that!

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by jayjaytrain on Fri Aug 29 19:59:59 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by r17-6599 on Fri Aug 29 18:46:58 2014.

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Or at least do what MARTA does and give 4 transfers.

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by R32_3672 on Sat Aug 30 00:30:14 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by jayjaytrain on Fri Aug 29 19:59:59 2014.

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i disagree i used the 7 day unlimited for work 5 days a week for work and the weekend for my needs so i hope it isn't eliminated

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by Michael549 on Sat Aug 30 00:54:35 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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With at least half of all subway or bus riders using the unlimited cards - what is the reason for a change?

The unlimited cards have made many trips feasible that would otherwise have been handled differently, or not made at all.

Since places like Staten Island, only have 3 places on the entire island at which to purchase MetroCards from MetroCard Vending machines. Making the purchase of unlimited cards difficult would not be very useful to most riders.

Mike

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Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Aug 30 11:10:49 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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Screw over the out-of-towners by making them buy at least a week at a time.

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by snarf368 on Sat Aug 30 11:34:51 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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You're proposal is the worst ever. Sure the MTA would make more money ONLY IF the riding habits of people don't change. The unlimited ride cards have encouraged the use of subways & buses as evidenced by records ridership not seen in decades. Removing a popular feature would encourage less use of mass transit and people would use other means of transportation like car sharing, bikes, walking, etc. If anything MTA needs to control costs, not screw riders. The riders span every class & demographic and eliminating unlimited would hurt those that can least afford it. This is not Starbucks where you raise prices and not expect any loss of customers.

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by r17-6599 on Sat Aug 30 14:42:04 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by R32_3672 on Sat Aug 30 00:30:14 2014.

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U and me both, 'specially now that my unlimited is 1/2 the price. (benefit of being senior). Of course, the general public and media can
always harken back to free for life passes to workers & their families. Hmmmm?
jrc

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by r17-6599 on Sat Aug 30 14:46:56 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by snarf368 on Sat Aug 30 11:34:51 2014.

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Absolutely correct. And the garbage that ridership increased due to Metrocard usage "alone" is totally false. The discounts are the thing. And the MTA should bring back a version of the day pass, which many agencies use (unless they have a totally cheap fare to begin with).

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Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Aug 30 15:00:23 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by r17-6599 on Sat Aug 30 14:46:56 2014.

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Yeah, Philadelphia's was $12 for the day and I used it when I was there.

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 12:17:56 2014, in response to Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sat Aug 30 11:10:49 2014.

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When I am an "out of towner" visiting a city for a day or 2, I always get a "Day Pass" and never "pay per ride"... I was pissed when they eliminated the one day "Fun Pass" in NYC...

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 20:07:23 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Aug 31 12:17:56 2014.

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The trend in NY, Chicago, and DC is to soak the tourist, who are usually politically impotent there.

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Aug 31 20:17:03 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 20:07:23 2014.

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Actually, this applies almost everywhere. Practically every motel room anywhere of significance these days comes with at least $10 in taxes and fees. Tourists are politically impotent everywhere as they don't vote. Next, they'll be trying to tax all foreigners living abroad.

I would be upset if pay per ride MetroCards were eliminated. I have business in Manhattan several times each month, but rarely more than two days in any particular week. To have to buy a weekly unlimited would be ridiculous for me. Hopefully the OP on that idea was joking.

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by snarf368 on Sun Aug 31 21:04:43 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by Joe V on Sun Aug 31 20:07:23 2014.

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The trend in NY, Chicago, and DC is to soak the tourist, who are usually politically impotent there.

Perhaps, but the cost of Mass Transit from these 3 cities airports to the city center is very reasonable compared to any other form of transportation.

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Re: Add an Unlimited Ride-Weekend MetroCard

Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Sep 1 01:30:03 2014, in response to Eliminate the Unlimited Ride MetroCard, posted by E and F and sometimes J on Fri Aug 29 13:59:52 2014.

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You have a point, however, I doubt it would work.

What I would do, however, is add a new "Weekend Pass," an unlimited ride Metro-Card valid from 8:00 PM Friday-5:00 AM Monday that would cost $12.50 for the entire weekend (I would also have special versions for holiday weekends that would have such passes extend to 5:00 AM Tuesday when Monday is a Holiday and also depending on where July 4 falls for example).

I would also at the end of the year have a special "Holiday season unlimited ride" MetroCard that would be $25 and would be valid from 8:00 PM December 23 (or the preceding Friday if 12/23 is on Saturday or Sunday) until 5:00 AM January 2 (January 3 if New Year's falls on a Saturday or Sunday, January 4 if it falls on a Friday or January 5 if it falls on a Thursday). That would cover the tourists who are in NYC during the Christmas period.

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Re: Add an Unlimited Ride-Weekend MetroCard

Posted by snarf368 on Mon Sep 1 16:53:39 2014, in response to Re: Add an Unlimited Ride-Weekend MetroCard, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Sep 1 01:30:03 2014.

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Wallyhorse said "What I would do, however, is add a new "Weekend Pass,"

Whenever you add more types of Metrocards, it just adds to more back office headaches on the already outdated Metrocard infrastructure. I've seen MVM with a Windows NT login screen, that's how old this stuff is. There's enough options now to fit every budget for the occasional or heavy rider.

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 1 17:37:59 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by snarf368 on Sun Aug 31 21:04:43 2014.

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Well, then they let you get from the airport to your hotel first to make a good impression, then they fuck you.

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by snarf368 on Mon Sep 1 17:49:04 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 1 17:37:59 2014.

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Joe V said "Well, then they let you get from the airport to your hotel first to make a good impression, then they fuck you. "

Blame the hotels, street vendors, stores, restaurants, and everyone else for taking advantage of tourists. If you bothered to leave your house once in a while, you would realize it's like that everywhere. Something transit agencies have no control over.

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Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard

Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 1 18:15:57 2014, in response to Re: Eliminate the Pay Per Ride MetroCard, posted by snarf368 on Mon Sep 1 17:49:04 2014.

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I leave my house plenty, thank you, but were were talking about Day Passes, and their huge price hikes, or elimination on various systems.

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