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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014 The CERA (Central Electric Railfans' Association) Members Blog is celebrating the 50th anniversary of the CTA Skokie Swift today with the first of two installments.http://cerablog.com/...t-half-century/ I would like to see the Historical Cars run........the Cincinnati Car Company cars......and give rides!!!! Yes I know the Cincinnati Cars never served on the Skokie line.!!!!! Your wish may have just been granted. A rail manager has told me there are rumors that #4271-72 will run Apr 26th on the swift from 10AM to 2PM. It would be nice for that to occur. Those cars hardly get any public exposure. Mostly the charters and APTA administrators get to ride them.     Throttle.....off/ switching/ series/ transition/ full multiple. Brake handle.....release/ lap/ service/ emegency/ off handle. Just like the Whopper......it takes TWO HANDS to motor a 4000!! |
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Posted by chud1 on Sun Apr 20 17:34:53 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on these pictures.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:41:49 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by chud1 on Sun Apr 20 17:34:53 2014. I am sending some napkins.....be good! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 20 17:52:50 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. Controller remarkably similar to arnines, and I *really* like the brake handle there. On our older cars, there was a disk under the nipple with detents on it, and the pin would wear them out fairly quickly leaving you to guess where each detent was. I *like* yours! :) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 20 18:07:58 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. Of course it would be cool for them to run. FWIW I was out there on day one. No, it doesn't seem like yesterday. We were way younger then. After the great sadness of the North Shore demise this was a small but real positive step. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Apr 20 19:59:04 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. Rode out there on the 845 leaving Howard. Everyone I taled to were nonchalent. I didn't find any railfans. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 20 20:06:06 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Apr 20 19:59:04 2014. So you were there back when the Evanston Local went OPTO w/ the 1-50 cars, right? |
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Posted by aaron on Sun Apr 20 20:06:21 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. In my scrapbook, I have the Sun Time's special insert for the Opening Day. It's a bit yellowed, but still readable. I was 5 years old and a budding railfan!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Apr 20 20:08:35 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 20 20:06:06 2014. No, I started in 1986, the one man Evanston cars went I believe 1984. They had the traditional motorman conductor operation |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Apr 20 20:23:55 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Apr 20 20:08:35 2014. Thanks. I was curious. I was a summer Chicagoan at my Granddads all through the 50s so I remember the deal made to cut crew not service. Later when I was dating a girl from college I would see her to her front door then walk back to the L in Evanston for the slog to JP and a ride on the 27 to get home. Lonely trains in Owl Hours. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 20 23:32:08 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. nice photos |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon Apr 21 00:50:52 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Apr 20 20:08:35 2014. Well, I remember my days as a operator on the Evanston one-man cars. We are called operators in those days but there no such word back then ....."opto." We were paid the same rate paid to the bus drivers. We even got time to fill forms, count transfers, and add up the money.  The one-man PCC single unit cars were the last PCC "L" cars the CTA brought. 50 cars from the 670 fleet in all. They were distinctly different from the rest of the PCC cars .....cabs at both car ends, the passenger doors were placed at the cabs instead of at the quarter points. The operator cabs had inside windows, and Johnson fare box and a drop panel in the wall where fares were collected. There were individual door controls for controlling each of the four passenger doors. The one-cars had the best motors, good dynamic brakes and if you popped the handle, braking was smooth. Even the track brakes are smooth. During rush hours, the one-man cars were coupled into four car trains to work Evanston Express downtown and run with motorman and conductor crew. Conductor's used wall door controls to work the four car trains. The one-man cars assigned the the Evanston Shuttles had a trolley on each end. It wasn't easy to put up the pole in a rainstorm, LOL. Going NB from Howard, most passengers off the car and you either used the individual door controls or you reached up and used the conductor door controls. You opened each door as needed. Going SB, you collected fares so you only used the single front door, like a bus. At Howard you threw both doors open. Working midnights, there were times the passenger load was nothing. There was a practice that showed you stopped at a station....your yellow lights came on, your dynamic brakes had gone over to the friction parking brake; you pushed one of the door controls and the door relay and power clicked out loud. It wasn't necessary to open the door wide, when it closed again, the two relays clicked twice and the Cineston would be rotated to power points of one, two, or three. The best night of the midnight was the times the clocks changed and you lost a hour. True, when clocks went back, the wasn't so good. Since you made fares, you need a bank of change. On Sundays I didn't need change. My first trip I would meet up with a C&NW commuter. I would sit while piles and piles of money would go into my cash box. And one day the train was not there! But I saw the headlight, so I waited and they caught a shuttle that was waiting......good luck they thought. I closed the doors, and radioed that I was "running to Howard now-stop". My follow-er had caught up with me. Just like a bus, LOL.   CTA man-cars at IRM.....Illinois Railway Museum, Union, IL |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon Apr 21 00:51:19 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Apr 20 23:32:08 2014. Thanks. |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Apr 21 05:49:50 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:41:49 2014. thanks for da napkins.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by chud1 on Mon Apr 21 07:25:22 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon Apr 21 00:50:52 2014. Cool!.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Apr 21 09:45:37 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon Apr 21 00:50:52 2014. I never worked the one man Evanston cars. I'm glad I never did. That had to be nerver racking, making change, punching transfers, operating, all at the same time. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Apr 21 13:28:40 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon Apr 21 00:50:52 2014. Nice pix and memories. Thanks. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Mon Apr 21 13:37:36 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Apr 21 13:28:40 2014. Thanks JKP-B. |
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Posted by Randyo on Mon Apr 21 16:38:24 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. Slight correction on brake valve positions. From left to right: release, handle off, lap, service, emergency. |
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Posted by Asgard on Tue Apr 22 11:23:33 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. Nice pictures, thanks!Does anyone know the reason for the narrow window on the left side of the cab, overlooking the storm door? |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Tue Apr 22 17:26:55 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Randyo on Mon Apr 21 16:38:24 2014. You were absolutely correct, sir! It's been awhile since I have ran a six car train of 4000's out of Kimball on the Ravenswood.release handle off lap service emergency ("big hole") |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Tue Apr 22 17:34:38 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Asgard on Tue Apr 22 11:23:33 2014. Thanks.I imagine the window might give a better view of a switchman on the ground on the left side. |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Tue Apr 22 20:35:29 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Asgard on Tue Apr 22 11:23:33 2014. Thanks.I imagine the window might give a better view of a switchman on the ground on the left side. |
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Posted by Asgard on Wed Apr 23 13:25:33 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Tue Apr 22 17:34:38 2014. Thanks! |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Apr 24 00:53:48 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. A Plushie in full regalia! What could be better?=w= |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Apr 24 10:44:17 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Apr 24 00:53:48 2014. Thanks. |
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Posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 24 16:01:57 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Tue Apr 22 17:26:55 2014. I had the opportunity to operate 4000s at IRM and the museum in Wisconsin that I can't recall the name of at the moment. The M-23 brake valve was the closest to the M-19s on the Qs I operated when I was a M/M on the Myrtle Av El. |
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Posted by aaron on Thu Apr 24 20:19:25 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Apr 24 00:53:48 2014. Not a plushie, not center door!!! |
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Posted by Alan Follett on Thu Apr 24 23:42:20 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Randyo on Thu Apr 24 16:01:57 2014. East Troy Trolley Museum?Alan Follett |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Apr 25 07:43:24 2014, in response to CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Sun Apr 20 17:22:54 2014. Long live ol' school!!! :-)Great photos!! :-) |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 25 08:13:17 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Apr 25 07:43:24 2014. Yes....Sir!Welcome back! |
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Posted by Randyo on Fri Apr 25 15:37:14 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Alan Follett on Thu Apr 24 23:42:20 2014. That's it! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 26 16:07:04 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by aaron on Thu Apr 24 20:19:25 2014. The plushies didn't have center doors. The baldies did, but those center doors were never used. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 26 16:07:38 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Apr 24 00:53:48 2014. Zooming down the mainline at IRM, gears wailing away at A-440. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 26 16:09:00 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 20 17:52:50 2014. The 4000s had air brakes, unlike the modern CTA L fleet, but they didn't go, "tch-ssss" as they stopped. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 26 16:12:09 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Randyo on Fri Apr 25 15:37:14 2014. I believe there may be more than one museum in that area that has at least one 4000. The nice thing about the Plushies is that, being equipped with trolley poles, they came ready-to-run, assuming they were still operable.Too bad SLTM never managed to put 4280 back together to make it operable. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 26 17:54:55 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Apr 26 16:09:00 2014. Looks like a simpler system there. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sun Apr 27 02:22:02 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 26 17:54:55 2014. Chicago's 4000s had an AMU system which lacked the electric add on of the AMUE as found on most NYCTS prewar equipment. Since Chicago ran shorter trains than NY ultimately did, the company probably felt it was unnecessary to go to the expense of having E/P brakes on 2 and 4 car trains. Even when longer trains were operated, they were usually no longer than 6 cars and a strictly pneumatic brake system was adequate for that length of train as was also the case with BMT C types and Qs which operated in similar consists. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 27 03:25:37 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Randyo on Sun Apr 27 02:22:02 2014. Yep ... I noted the lack of an EB plug or switch there, that's what fascinated me. I've run ten car arnines with no functioning electric brake and aside from the noticeable run in and slack outs, wasn't all that difficult to control without tit. |
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Posted by Randyo on Mon Apr 28 17:27:47 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 27 03:25:37 2014. When I was switching in CCYd, I would often operate R-9s without the plug to practice for the day I would eventually be operating the Qs. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 28 18:06:01 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Randyo on Mon Apr 28 17:27:47 2014. They WANTED you to run without the butt plug on drilling. The Q's were long out of there by the time I showed up, but there were still quite a few of them parked on the back tracks there. |
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Posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 29 16:59:35 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Apr 28 18:06:01 2014. That wasn't the case when I was a M/M, but according to old time IRT M/M I knew, in the old days new IRT switchmen did not receive electric brake keys (Hi-Vs and Lo-Vs used a metal key similar to the cutting key instead of a plug) until they were road qualified. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 29 18:01:44 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by Randyo on Tue Apr 29 16:59:35 2014. Yeah, when grabbing a couple of cars, they told me not to bother with the electric plug, just move 'em ... singles or doubles, didn't seem to be any difference. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Apr 29 18:31:48 2014, in response to Re: CTA Skokie Swift 50th Anniversary (Photos), posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Fri Apr 25 08:13:17 2014. Carson Home Video has a greet DVD, of a wayback time of the Ravenswood Line, Evanston Express and the Skokie Swift with pantographs flying up.I just viewed it again. |
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