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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:27:46 2005, in response to Re: posting, posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Aug 16 20:30:13 2005. Shall we take this issue to the Piscataway station on the Northeast Corridor? :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:32:59 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Tue Aug 16 23:49:49 2005. and 2 local stations,roughed out with blue tiles on the wall saying 76st.were built. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:34:00 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:32:59 2005. LOL! |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Aug 18 11:34:16 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:15:14 2005. "Doctored? Proff of a 76th st?"The former. |
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Posted by Dupont Circle Station on Thu Aug 18 11:34:25 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:15:14 2005. Oh, c'mon now. Besides it obviously being Photoshopped, you can't have missed all the debate on SubTalk.If reading the text didn't give it away, the MTA paint scheme (which didn't exist before 1968) should be plainly obvious. The period after 76 on the pillar is also pretty blatent. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:34:43 2005, in response to Re: posting, posted by vfrt on Tue Aug 16 19:11:46 2005. Yeah! How do we? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 18 11:37:12 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 17 05:36:45 2005. Joe himself has said that the page was an April Fool's joke. That doeesn't prove that the station isn't there, it just proves that Joe's account of the station is false. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:40:50 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 17 05:36:45 2005. ["List as many reasons as you can as to why you know the 76th Street station exists!"]More photo proof: |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:44:53 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:20:55 2005. It's already determined that that photo on Joe's page was taken at 7th Ave.How do we know it's doctored? Well take a look at this: Not to mention that diehard railfan that is still on that train at the RF window from the 1940's to the 1970's when the 7th Ave photo was taken. That poor railfan lost in the twilight zone somewhere: |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:46:30 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Dan on Wed Aug 17 14:41:03 2005. Exactly. Look at the bottom of the page:Page last updated 1 April 2002. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:48:08 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:44:53 2005. Good point |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:49:32 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:24:09 2005. And I dare you to prove me wrong. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:51:29 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by vfrt on Wed Aug 17 17:43:39 2005. There are plenty of IND provision stations out there. Utica Ave, Broadway on the G, Roosevelt Ave complete tiled unused station, etc, etc. How come all those are documented but somehow they "forgot" about 76th St. What is it, Area 51? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:54:03 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:17:09 2005. It dates to 1948. It's mostly under some housing projects and all the R44's are shopped there. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:54:04 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:24:09 2005. No, 76th St is not just an April Fool Joke. The April Fool joke is a direct joke because of the already circulating rumor on 76th St. It's not a chicken and eg scenario. The legend/rumor of the 76th St station was first, then the April Fool's joke. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:54:36 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:15:14 2005. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:01:21 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:54:04 2005. So where'd the rumor come from? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 12:03:26 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:51:29 2005. It'll all make sense when you read "The DaVinci Code". The Cathars built the station, and the Priory of Sion keeps it a secret to this day. If one looks behind the image of Jesus in DeVinci's "Last Supper", one can almost make out a purple and cream tiled column. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:03:35 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:54:03 2005. Under? Isn't the yard on the ground? Does the subway build yards underground? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 12:07:49 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:03:35 2005. Some buildings were built over it. I've only been inside it once. But here's a picture: |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:10:14 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 12:07:49 2005. Okay, so how do you know this yard isn't the 76th St Station? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 12:14:46 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:10:14 2005. Because a yard is not a station. An apple is not a truck. |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Aug 18 12:14:59 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:01:21 2005. Rumors have been flying since the '40s |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Aug 18 12:15:36 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 12:14:46 2005. it's a computer |
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Posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:16:06 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 12:10:14 2005. 76 Street wou;d have been past the yard. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 18 12:17:56 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:15:14 2005. I'm assuming you didn't read the whole thread before making this post. When will you learn? |
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Posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:22:24 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:40:50 2005. Give me a break! Another doctored pic! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 12:26:51 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:22:24 2005. Doctored? I took that on the Transit Museum tour.The tiles have a little water damage, but as you can see, they are the proper IND post WWII tiles like the rest of the line east of Bway Junction. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 12:32:03 2005, in response to Re: posting, posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Aug 16 20:30:13 2005. Aw fer KRIMMINY'S SAKE ... we're just waiting for PROFF! :)How DARE you blaspheme the spirit of subtalk lost! Heh. |
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Posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:36:17 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Thu Aug 18 08:21:02 2005. I've always wondered why there was a ballfield alongside the subway/Former LIRR ROW from Pitkin Avenue to the backend of Old Aqueduct Station. The rest of the neighborhood is built up. But that piece of land isn't developed at all. I'd assume tha was the location for the ramp to the LIRR. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 12:42:09 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Train Dude on Tue Aug 16 21:43:26 2005. OH CHIT! There's LOTS of replies to this! Oh NOES! I'se got some sleeping to do after too much work. Aggggh! :)What I'd tried to type was that I was told by a guy who worked the A before it was sealed up that there was about enough room on ONE track for maybe 6 cars, and 4 cars on two others. Word is there's one track that goes maybe 10 FEET past the cinder blocks and that they'd stick some trains there when needed, but those tracks were totally useless. I *know* you know about YARDS, bro. Heh. If those tracks were the LEAST bit useful for 8 or 10 cars worth of anything, they'd be *used* ... no? Man ... I'm amazed (haven't read the rest of this chain yet) that anybody thought I was resurrecting a ghost ... but since this seems to be the case ... here is everything I got told by a veteran A train motorman who refreshed me about two years ago just before he died here in Voorheesville at the age of 76 ... "Four tracks, one of which is useful, you can turn maybe 8 cars if you're careful on it, but *I* wouldn't try it, two other tracks that maybe you can do four, and one track that just ends the moment it got dark. Nothing went there." "The tunnel goes back a good way and there are signs of local platforms that were planned, but never built where the end gets wider. No concrete was poured for platforms, but the shell was built, but only 2-3 carlengths worth. At the end, there's cinder blocks and a lot of dirt." "Third rail extended about far enough for 6 cars on the one set of tracks that we used. No third rail was placed for the other three tracks beyond where the sections logically extended from the interlocking." It WAS used for turning cuts of cars, and it was used for layups." END of story. That's what *I* heard. That there WAS "an enlargement for a station" and that the tunnel did go a ways back. Was that "enlargement" 76th? HE didn't think so, but it IS back there. His opinion was that the tunnel only went back 3-4 blocks, but SOMETHING was there - perhaps plans for an interlocking that got moved outside the tunnel in the end? Who knows? Who CARES? :) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:43:59 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 12:26:51 2005. From Euclid Avenue to the next express stop the wall tile would be purple. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 12:50:23 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by westcode44 on Wed Aug 17 00:18:47 2005. My buddy told me that a set of LoV's spent a couple of weeks there when wiglets were terrorizing the Dyre line looking for them. :) |
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Posted by Clayton on Thu Aug 18 13:04:37 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:07:03 2005. There is also a section in Chinatown. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 13:10:32 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:07:46 2005. No ... Santa's a drunk who works in Phoenix. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 13:18:18 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:43:59 2005. It's the lighting. Flash does that:) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 14:58:07 2005, in response to posting, posted by tunnel rat on Tue Aug 16 13:48:15 2005. Actually, I found this official photo at nycsubway.org that shows that the IND actually chose a design very similar to the contract one IRT stations when designing the mezzanine of the 76th Street station when they snapped this photo using glass plate negatives. While the platform itself was done in the new style IND purple tiles to match Euclid, the mezzanine had some pretty intricate design like the IRT: |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:01:16 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 12:14:46 2005. Nonetheless, they could've been building the yard, and someone mistook the idea for a station, or someone might've thought up an idea for a station but it transmogrified into a yard. (Or, perhaps, the project started out as a station but someone figured a yard would work better on the spot than a station, so bye-bye platforms, hello tracks and more room). I submit to you that the Pitkin Ave yard may have been born as a "76th St. Station" or mistaken for a "76th St Station" in its early construction phases. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Thu Aug 18 15:03:18 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 18 11:37:12 2005. The page does look authentic and convincing. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:06:38 2005, in response to Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 14:58:07 2005. How nice. A doctored pic. :) |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Aug 18 15:24:18 2005, in response to Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 14:58:07 2005. Ha ha!When someone photoshops the 6 in "76", try to make it a bit neater and less jerky! Oh man, this is so funny. |
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Posted by Teddmann on Thu Aug 18 15:35:22 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Mark W. on Wed Aug 17 00:09:36 2005. You have to ask yourself one thing...if some say there's nothing behind those walls...then *why* build the walls in the first place? I would think the walls were there to block off *something*..?? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 15:50:41 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 18 11:40:50 2005. We've seen that doctored photo before. I ain't buying it. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 15:52:38 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:24:09 2005. More specifically, the abandoned station article itself was the April Fool joke. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:53:06 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 13:10:32 2005. I see the North Pole has been outsourcing, then. :) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:56:42 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 12:16:06 2005. Well, putting the YARD in the way certainly spoiled the fun, eh? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:58:22 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Aug 18 12:17:56 2005. Um, that was numerous posts ago, and by now, I HAVE read this thread. |
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Posted by Jan K. Lorenzen on Thu Aug 18 16:08:16 2005, in response to Re: Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Aug 18 15:24:18 2005. Who has a pic of the 76th St. head end signage on 1575 during the fried journal bearing MOD trip to the Rockaways? I know you guys went nuts when y'all saw that after lunch! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 16:11:58 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 15:53:06 2005. Thank you very much, please call again. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 16:17:11 2005, in response to Re: Official IND photo of 76th Street Re: posting, posted by Jan K. Lorenzen on Thu Aug 18 16:08:16 2005. Heh. Seen it ... :) |
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