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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 09:46:23 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Fytton on Wed Aug 17 09:28:05 2005. the conduit is still in use. two years ago at pitkin and n/s conduit avenues repair crews were doing extensive work on it.the work went east of sutter ave. thewater conduit is well below the subway.did you guys check out jeff rosens question about 76st? press heres proof and let me know what you think. tunnel rat. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Fytton on Wed Aug 17 09:51:42 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 09:46:23 2005. 'Did you guys check out jeff rosens question about 76st? Press heres proof and let me know what you think. tunnel rat.'Jeff Rosen didn't ask any questions, he just posted the link to Joe Brennan's article on 76th St. |
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Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Clayton on Wed Aug 17 11:01:02 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Clayton on Tue Aug 16 23:16:52 2005. Conduit Blvd has a sewer line that turns onto Drew Avenue, and another onto Ruby Street. Nothing goes past into or beyond 76th Street on Conduit Blvd. Coincedence?Proof of this statement may come soon. |
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Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 11:15:20 2005, in response to Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Clayton on Wed Aug 17 11:01:02 2005. the conduit runs into nassau county.there is a pumping station at sunrise h,way and hook creek blvd.it was originaly owned by nyc to pump water into the city from nassau.over the years our water supply increased so it was sold to nassau county. in the long island forum last year that had the complet history of it. |
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Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Clayton on Wed Aug 17 11:20:58 2005, in response to Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 11:15:20 2005. I was talking about sewers, I will hopefully run across the water line maps.NYC gets their water from upstate watersheds. Kensico, Kingston, Valhalla are just a few to name... |
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Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Wed Aug 17 12:02:48 2005, in response to Re: Sewer Lines Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Clayton on Wed Aug 17 11:20:58 2005. I thnk the conduit system was to supply water for southern Queens and Nassau. Manhattan had water coming from upsstate. Western Long Island didn't. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 17 13:12:45 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 17 05:36:45 2005. Cool! But how come it doesn't appear on the Abandoned Stations mainpage? |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 13:20:05 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 17 13:12:45 2005. ask joe brennan,Iwas thinking the same thing. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 13:20:06 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 17 13:12:45 2005. ask joe brennan,Iwas thinking the same thing. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Aug 17 13:44:00 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 17 05:36:45 2005. Page last updated 1 April 2002.I don't think that page is a reliable source... it seems to be more of an April Fool's joke... For example, the photo of the "new" R10 train. Why is it in MTA blue and silver if the photo was supposed to be taken in 1948? -TPoA |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 14:01:23 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Aug 17 13:44:00 2005. I don't think that page is a reliable source... it seems to be more of an April Fool's joke...You must be new around here. http://www.nycrail.com/amb/board1/1443.html |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!! |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Aug 17 14:06:15 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Tue Aug 16 23:25:35 2005. Tunnel Rat Speaks The TruthThough he also worked for the government and said he was here to help me. I'm still waiting for that check he mailed me and there is also a funny taste in my mouth. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Aug 17 14:07:01 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by westcode44 on Wed Aug 17 00:31:18 2005. Nah, bad back |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Aug 17 14:10:12 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 14:01:23 2005. I joined SubTalk in early 2004. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 14:11:06 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Aug 17 14:10:12 2005. Also see this:what started it all |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Dan on Wed Aug 17 14:41:03 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Aug 17 13:12:45 2005. It was an April Fool's joke. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 17 14:54:33 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!!, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Aug 17 14:06:15 2005. Though he also worked for the government and said he was here to help me.I'm still waiting for that check he mailed me and there is also a funny taste in my mouth. Hey! You're not supposed to remember that! |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 15:40:18 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Dan on Wed Aug 17 14:41:03 2005. And most of us who read it at the time fell for it - hook, line and sinker. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 15:43:41 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Fytton on Wed Aug 17 09:51:42 2005. Yeah, the April Fool article. He had most of us fooled, all right. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by westcode44 on Wed Aug 17 16:15:12 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Aug 17 14:07:01 2005. Then "Olive" will help him... |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!! |
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Posted by westcode44 on Wed Aug 17 16:16:34 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 17 14:54:33 2005. Must be a relative of BMTman... |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Jan K. Lorenzen on Wed Aug 17 17:01:29 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 09:17:30 2005. Hey Mark, let's give the D Types a "Hunter S. Thompson rental car" test! |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Dan on Wed Aug 17 17:31:53 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 15:40:18 2005. The photo was good, but the text was the giveaway. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!! |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Aug 17 17:36:43 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) TUNNEL RAT KNOWS!!, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Aug 17 14:06:15 2005. ' and there is also a funny taste in my mouth.'been to Fordham Rd? |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by vfrt on Wed Aug 17 17:43:39 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 14:11:06 2005. We are all interested in this 76th Street question. It is possible that 76th Street was built and forgotten about over the last 60 years. But, are there any other 'mystery' stations or tunnels out there??? There have to more IND-second-system remnants than we know now about. Does Mr. Tunnel Rat have any stories on this matter?? |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 17:50:22 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by vfrt on Wed Aug 17 17:43:39 2005. It is possible that 76th Street was built and forgotten about over the last 60 years.That's not possible. Whatever was built there is on record somewhere. There are also other records that could prove it's not there, if that is the case. In either case, we are not being given access to those records, and the people who have seen them or could see them aren't talking. And no one has forgotten about it. We talk about it all the time. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 18:10:30 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Dan on Wed Aug 17 17:31:53 2005. The photo was what raised a big caution flag. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:14:52 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Aug 16 20:34:51 2005. Because like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth fairy |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:18:27 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 17 09:15:38 2005. They'd be crushed into kindling. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:22:25 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Aug 17 09:17:50 2005. I thought this was a provision for a merger with the never built Bushwick Expressway. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:25:20 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 15:43:41 2005. Best joke ever. I was hooked, and had he not included that obviously doctored R10 pic on his page, I'd still take it seriously (despite the obvious farce the page supposedly describes). |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:28:07 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by vfrt on Wed Aug 17 17:43:39 2005. You can't build a subway tunnel and "forget" about it (unless your last name is Beech). Blueprints would have to exist. A contractor would have to have been paid for constructing it. If it still exists it would have to be maintained, or filled in (like sections of the 2nd Ave Subway are/were). |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 01:55:52 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:25:20 2005. After all, where are those 4 tracks headedfor after Euclid, The 2 tracks going to Pikin Yard and the 2 tracks going to Grant Avenue? |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by SilverFox on Thu Aug 18 03:28:50 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by tunnel rat on Wed Aug 17 13:20:05 2005. Well I just spoke to that little girl, Shea, at Branford, and she says, and I quote:Well, that's good enough for me! AK |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Thu Aug 18 08:21:02 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 01:55:52 2005. douce man,the 4 tracks dip down and end at a concrete wallat about grant and pitkin.the original plan was to have 4tracks to the lirr at aqueduct race track and have 2 tracks ramp up to the lirr r.o.w.the 2 other tracks were to go down to linden blvd.to 229st.laurelton.the 1939 plan was revised to cut back the line to 106st along side of aqueduct race track.to you t.a. types out there,neet time your in euclid tower look at the model board.it states that the 4 tracks were to go to 76st. and crossbay blvd.there is a signal relay room just past the model board.when you walk thru the door look to your left.on the wall is a glass enclosed 1947 orignal signal schmatic showing all the signals to the concrete wall.it also shows that beyound the wall the tunnel continues and states that the signals beyound the wall were to be put in by the contractor at a later date.this is a significant piece of the puzzle that is 76st. steve. |
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Posted by tunnel rat on Thu Aug 18 08:27:57 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SilverFox on Thu Aug 18 03:28:50 2005. to the hi ho silver fox. ha ha ha ha the little brat. |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 09:14:43 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:28:07 2005. Didn't the section of the 2nd Ave. line from E. 2nd to E. 9th Streets get only as far as utility relocation? AFAIK there is no tunnel section there; any excavation that may have been done was filled back in. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 09:16:30 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SilverFox on Thu Aug 18 03:28:50 2005. We would need photographic proff (and please don't use that doctored R-10 photo - that's really 7th Ave.). |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 09:27:38 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Jan K. Lorenzen on Wed Aug 17 17:01:29 2005. If a Triplex can't smash through that wall, nothing can. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 10:45:59 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Dan on Tue Aug 16 18:45:57 2005. Before I get to the other responses, the tracks past 179th are SPACIOUS compared to what was in the tunnel supposedly leading to "76th street" according to people who turned 4-6 cars on those tracks. That was about as much as you could turn in the "hole" that got filled in. Didn't go back very far in other words.Besides ... I feel it my sacred duty to keep this 76th Street thing going ... it's as much a part of "our" culture here as "proff!" :) |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 10:48:35 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Aug 16 20:34:51 2005. Works for me ... I believed Bush when it was a choice between him and Kerry-okie ... but I *took* the cure since. :) |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 10:49:21 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 17 18:14:52 2005. Oh COME ON! They ALL exist! They're just waiting for the A train. :) |
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Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:07:03 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street and other 'mysteries'., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 09:14:43 2005. Yes, but a section around 110th St. is still maintained by the MTA. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:07:46 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 18 10:49:21 2005. But doesn't Santa work for Macy's? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:10:16 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Aug 17 09:17:30 2005. With a drill or a plow, no less. :) |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:12:00 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Douce Man on Thu Aug 18 01:55:52 2005. No, there are 4 additional tracks which dead end: "76th St" is supposed to be past where those 4 black tracks end. Of course, it doesn't exist, but that's hasn't stopped others from saying it does. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:15:14 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Aug 17 05:36:45 2005. I'm intrigued by this:Doctored? Proff of a 76th st? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:17:09 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Aug 18 11:12:00 2005. Why is there a yard at Pitkin Ave, and how old is the yard? |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:20:55 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 18 09:16:30 2005. How do you know it's doctored? IND stations look too similar to each other anyway. |
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Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Thu Aug 18 11:24:09 2005, in response to Re: 76th Street (Was: Re: posting), posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Aug 17 14:11:06 2005. That settles it. 76th St. Station was nothing more than an April Fool's prank played in 2002. |
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