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(7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013

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It will be running this Friday: testing clearance, power, run, etc.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 14:15:10 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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So King Bloomberg will be on the that train and will look at the unfinish station before he GTFO of NYC office.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by SLRT on Mon Dec 16 14:52:05 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 14:15:10 2013.

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Well, he said there would be a train in that station if he had to pull it there himself.

At least there's some politician who believes his promises.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Dec 16 15:07:31 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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The full length?
One track both ways?
Or both tracks, each way?

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 15:17:30 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Dec 16 15:07:31 2013.

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I don't know the details, they are testing both tracks and King Bloomberg will be on train.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by chud1 on Mon Dec 16 15:49:01 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 14:15:10 2013.

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to hell with dictator bloomy.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by chud1 on Mon Dec 16 15:49:02 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 14:15:10 2013.

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to hell with dictator bloomy.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Clayton on Mon Dec 16 15:58:54 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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12PM, with the official start from the 34th and 11th.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Avid Reader on Mon Dec 16 15:59:46 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 15:17:30 2013.

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I lay money he gets stick time, and wears an engineer cap for the foto op.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 16:12:04 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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Would love to see them pull out the Lo-Vs to make the initial run. Symbolic of the oldest with the newest together. Spanning generations...etc. Oh well, dream on I guess

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 16:22:34 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 16:12:04 2013.

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That will be some other time, it will probably happen by then.

Looks like the R188 will be the one to see first on Friday.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 16 16:46:08 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Avid Reader on Mon Dec 16 15:59:46 2013.

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He got it done, let him take the credit he deserves.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by R30A on Mon Dec 16 16:49:04 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 16 16:46:08 2013.

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This might be a first time a train ends up running down a line during the term of the Mayor under whom the line was proposed.
No small feat.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Dec 16 17:31:40 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by R30A on Mon Dec 16 16:49:04 2013.

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This is good news. I found this about it, old news, of course.
7 train extension

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{news article} Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 18:21:50 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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The extension of the No. 7 subway line from Times Square to the West Side isn’t scheduled to open to passengers until summer of 2014 — with one exception.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority confirmed Monday that plans are set to run a “dignitary train” on Friday for Mayor Michael Bloomberg, so the politician who spearheaded the city financing of the new line’s extension through the site of the Hudson Yards development can get in one celebratory trip before leaving office at the end of the year.

Mr. Bloomberg will ride a No. 7 train from Times Square, where the line ends now, to the end of the extension at 34th Street and 11th Avenue, at noon on Friday, MTA officials said.

Construction continues on the extension, but the MTA’s Capital Construction division has been planning for months to make it possible for Mr. Bloomberg to take a ride on the line before his term as mayor ends.

The MTA is a state authority, and its other capital construction projects, like the Second Avenue subway, Fulton Center and bringing the Long Island Rail Road to Grand Central Terminal, are being built with its own capital funds and healthy dollops of aid from the federal government. But on the No. 7, the city has footed the $2.4 billion bill, floating bonds backed by future expected tax revenue from real estate development in the new neighborhood taking shape above the MTA’s West Side railyards.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2013/12/16/new-part-of-the-7-subway-makes-its-first-trip-friday-for-the-mayor/

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Re: {news article} Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Dec 16 18:35:33 2013, in response to {news article} Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 18:21:50 2013.

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Bloomberg ride

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 16 18:45:28 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Clayton on Mon Dec 16 15:58:54 2013.

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Too bad about the loss of the station at 10th Avenue. It would have been handy.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Dec 16 19:19:17 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 16:12:04 2013.

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I wouldn't want the Lo-Vs doing clearance testing... firstly because it'd be inaccurate, but more importantly, if there *was* a clearance problem, that'd just be painful.

Use some R33 singles...

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by gbs on Mon Dec 16 20:24:26 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 16 18:45:28 2013.

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That's the biggest shame of all. It was "shovel ready" when the economy was supposed to be stimulated and they were looking for such projects, and they didn't even build a shell during construction for future development into a station. I suspect we'll never see it. And that neighborhood already has high-rise residential buildings.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 20:51:44 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Dec 16 19:19:17 2013.

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If there willing to sent the state of the art R-188s on the initial run, Im sure that somebody guarantees that there will not be any clearance issues. If that car scrapes anything, than scrape the name of the individual that ok'd the trip in the first place off the payroll.

Besides was'nt the IRT locked into dimentions (Height, width, length) from the Low V days till today?? How "innacurate" (different) would Lo V clearence measurements vs R-188 be??

To me, this just seems to be a Bloomy publicity stunt.

Would just love to see the press corps board the train with big gulp sodas!

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Dec 16 21:41:28 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by gbs on Mon Dec 16 20:24:26 2013.

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there is always a chance it will be built..but its up to the city and the MTA as to "when" it will be built.

you gotta remember..it essentially two platforms that need to be built,not one...and a small mezz.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Dec 16 21:49:03 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 20:51:44 2013.

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How "innacurate" (different) would Lo V clearence measurements vs R-188 be??

For some reason I thought they were 48 feet.

That said, didn't R62s have the guard light clearance issue in the Steinway tube (and some modification was necessary to accommodate the current setup)?

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 17 05:26:18 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by gbs on Mon Dec 16 20:24:26 2013.

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Yep, I always have my "shovel ready" whenever politicians start speaking.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by b/p rupture on Tue Dec 17 06:06:13 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 20:51:44 2013.

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Would just love to see the press corps board the train with big gulp sodas!

In stryofoam cups!

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 17 07:59:11 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Dec 16 21:49:03 2013.

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Yes. Earlier R types had clearance lights too, so they were really stumped that R62's had clearance problems. Maybe the R62's are harder sprung. There was also that nasty derailment on the curve between Hunterspoint and Vernon-Jackson when they first hit the #7. R36's didn't do that.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Gene B. on Tue Dec 17 11:10:09 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 16 18:45:28 2013.

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Yup. A real lack of foresight not to have built a shell anyway.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 17 12:18:17 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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BTW, did they have the foresight to build the tunnel to B div specs so, in the distant future when the Steinway tunnel has to be replaced, B div sized cars can run on the line?

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Dec 17 12:27:16 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Joe V on Mon Dec 16 16:46:08 2013.

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INDEED!

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by chud1 on Tue Dec 17 13:00:13 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 17 12:18:17 2013.

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glad that da man and his guide dog are doing ok.
chud1.
:)....

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by chud1 on Tue Dec 17 13:01:59 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by chud1 on Tue Dec 17 13:00:13 2013.

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this was for a different post, my bad.
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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Randyo on Tue Dec 17 17:03:35 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Joe V on Tue Dec 17 07:59:11 2013.

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When the R-62s and 62As were first delivered, they, like the R-44s, 46s and 68s had individual external guard lights for each door panel rather than just 1 per side as previous equipment had. It may have been those additional guard lights that presented the clearance problems. Subsequently, when the door control system was upgraded to the Vapor/Westcode system, the extra guard lights were removed.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by the Silence on Tue Dec 17 17:09:39 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Dec 16 20:51:44 2013.

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given thier roof line dimensions in comaprision to later equipment, yes the Vs would be off. Slightly, but slightly can make all the diffrence.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 17 22:01:49 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by chud1 on Mon Dec 16 15:49:01 2013.

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I say to hell with Dick Tator Douchebag.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 17 22:04:53 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Dec 16 21:49:03 2013.

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Chicago's L cars are 48 feet long while IRT cars are 51 feet long. I still wonder how they let that line of each car being 72 feet long make its way into the original Pelham 1-2-3 movie.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 17 22:06:40 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Dec 17 12:18:17 2013.

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Depends on whether or not the rest of the underground portion to the tubes was built to Dual Contracts clearances.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by renee gil on Tue Dec 17 23:30:00 2013, in response to (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 13:11:59 2013.

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cool.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Dec 18 14:34:59 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Dec 17 22:04:53 2013.

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That conductor was obviously new at his job. There was also a point in the same scene where he announces 51st Street as 59th Street, then quickly apologizes.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:07:53 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 16:22:34 2013.

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Most likely not. Cars 1806-1810+1954 are parked on track 1 at Times Square at the moment.

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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:18:24 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:07:53 2013.

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And it is now not here.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by snarf368 on Fri Dec 20 13:21:23 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:07:53 2013.

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R36 #9346 said "Most likely not. Cars 1806-1810+1954 are parked on track 1 at Times Square at the moment. "

I passed thru there around Noon and there was a ton of cops along track 1 and platform conductors along with some Museum Train folks. Didn't stick around to see Hizzoner.



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Posted by Stef on Fri Dec 20 13:59:16 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:07:53 2013.

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A work train made up of a diesel-rider-diesel also went down ahead of the passenger train, to be used if necessary.

Some 42nd St bound trains may be turned at HP (also if necessary) due to 1 pocket operation.

-Stef

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Dec 20 14:11:45 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Randyo on Tue Dec 17 17:03:35 2013.

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were removed and found their way onto other equipment that never had the lights.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Avid Reader on Fri Dec 20 14:18:14 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Dec 16 14:15:10 2013.

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Bloomy is keeping his face around.
My guess he may take a shot at the big chair in Albany.
That or an orifice in Warshington.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Joe V on Fri Dec 20 15:16:21 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Dec 20 14:18:14 2013.

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Well he is certainly ain't headed to a graying community in Florida whose highlight of the day is earlybird dinner at 3:30 of cube steak and lima beans.

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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Fri Dec 20 16:05:26 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:07:53 2013.

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1954: That's MY car (born in 1954). Never ridden on it.

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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 20 17:46:14 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Dec 20 14:18:14 2013.

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He's already put together a company to advise other cities on how to nanny. Seriously, that's his plan.

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Posted by Randyo on Fri Dec 20 18:13:28 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Avid Reader on Fri Dec 20 14:11:45 2013.

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Once the individual guard lights were removed, the MTA gave up on having them on any equipment. The excess guard lights were probably kept as spares but other than the R-44s through 68s, no NYCT equipment had individual external guard lights.

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Fri Dec 20 20:51:12 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by Stef on Fri Dec 20 13:59:16 2013.

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And the trip was made
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/21/nyregion/for-a-mayor-on-his-way-out-a-subway-station-on-its-way-in.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0

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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 20 21:04:51 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 20 12:07:53 2013.

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Well, its a R62A... better then nothing.



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Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Dec 20 21:13:24 2013, in response to Re: (7) train extension update: test train to 34th Street-Hudson Yards, posted by gold_12th on Fri Dec 20 21:04:51 2013.

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Will any 62As be left on the 7 when Hudson Yards opens for revenue? Wondering if they'd have to add a "34 Street-Hudson Yards / Manhattan" to the south roll.

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