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Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 1 09:51:38 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:30:35 2013. I hope this wasn't a replay of Spain.your pal, Fred |
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Re: MNRR Derailment 57 injured 4 dead 8-( |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Dec 1 09:52:15 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 09:41:43 2013. 57 injured 4 dead as of this hour per FDNY |
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Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Dec 1 09:53:02 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 09:41:20 2013. Over the scanner, there are at least 4 10-37 code 1s (non-fire fatalities). At least 40 are injured...one of the dead was found crushed underneath one of the cars. |
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Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Dec 1 09:53:36 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 09:51:28 2013. Only if the wheels were not inflated properly. |
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Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Dec 1 09:58:14 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:38:07 2013. :O |
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Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Dec 1 09:58:41 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Dec 1 09:53:36 2013. Not funny at this time 8-( |
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Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:59:27 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Dec 1 09:51:06 2013. 63 injured, 11 critically, unconfirmed.....possibly some thrown from the train!!! |
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Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:59:52 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Dec 1 09:53:36 2013. Dude bad time to make a joke!!! Not cool!!! |
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Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Dec 1 10:00:41 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 09:49:24 2013. not to mention peeing - although he probably already did that in his pants |
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Speed Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 10:02:43 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 1 09:06:32 2013. This link says the speed limit drops from 75 to 30 right at (presumably before) the curve.The distance the front car went off the tracks suggests a speed higher than 30. This is obviously speculation. http://www.donwinter.com/Railroad%20Infrastructure%20and%20Traffic%20Data/Regions/New%20York%20City/Route%20Descriptions/Mott%20Haven%20Junction%20to%20Spuyton-Duyvil.htm |
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Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 10:04:03 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:59:27 2013. They've been in the water, checking for people who may have been ejected into it. Looks like all 7 cars have been fully inspected and cleared. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 10:05:10 2013, in response to Speed Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 10:02:43 2013. I agree. I would expect to see the investigation show the train exceeding the MAS here. |
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Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 1 10:06:35 2013, in response to Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 07:55:15 2013. Live feed |
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Re: Speed Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun Dec 1 10:06:37 2013, in response to Speed Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 10:02:43 2013. Linked |
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Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment] |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 10:07:24 2013, in response to Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 07:55:15 2013. No notice on the website yet but 63 and 69 haven't left NYP according to "track a train":New York, NY (NYP) Toronto, ON (TWO) INFORMATION UNAVAILABLE Sorry, due to a service disruption, we are unable to provide estimated departure and arrival times. For additional assistance, please contact us at 1-800-USA-RAIL (1-800-872-7245). And New York, NY (NYP) Montreal, QC (MTR) Next Station Yonkers, NY (YNY) Scheduled Departure 8:44 am ET no status |
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Re: Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment] |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 10:11:52 2013, in response to Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment], posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 10:07:24 2013. From TransitChuckG's link:The Hudson line is suspended indefinitely. Service on the Amtrak Empire Line has also been suspended between Albany and New York City. Worst. Sunday after Thanksgiving. Ever. |
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Re: Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment] |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Dec 1 10:20:42 2013, in response to Re: Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment], posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 10:11:52 2013. Wow, on one of the busiest days on Amtrak one of there lines get FUBAR'd. From those photos it looked like an Amtrak train could get though the area as that train derailed east of that draw bridge. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 1 10:22:53 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 1 09:34:54 2013. All over the news now - 4 dead, 63 injured. |
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Re: MNRR Derailment 63 injured 4 dead 8-( |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 1 10:23:47 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Derailment 57 injured 4 dead 8-(, posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Dec 1 09:52:15 2013. Latest totals, 10:20 am |
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Re: Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment] |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 10:28:44 2013, in response to Re: Amtrak Delays [Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment], posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Dec 1 10:20:42 2013. Probably the Fire Department doesn't want moving trains so close to the rescue effort. There are boats involved in the rescue as well, so maybe some emergency workers are crossing the Amtrak tracks. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 1 10:30:39 2013, in response to Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 07:55:15 2013. Although just a tragic coincidence, it is eerie it happened on Thanksgiving weekend considering the Thanksgiving eve Richmond Hill LIRR accident of 1950. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Dec 1 10:38:04 2013, in response to Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 07:55:15 2013. Terrible news. Commissioner Cassano (FDNY) - reported that three people were thrown from the train and killed. There were about a hundred people aboard. Likely could have been worse; the cars seem to have held up very well. Track is all tore up; will take a while to get it fixed.Condolences to those lost and prayers for those injured. wayne |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 1 10:46:02 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 09:03:26 2013. Two eyewitnesses on NBS are claiming that the train was speeding.Take it with a grain of salt. I wouldn't place much stock in that claim, either. My blog |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 1 10:48:36 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:38:07 2013. That definitely is a long way from the tracks.My blog |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 10:50:03 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 1 10:48:36 2013. Which in turn makes speed the most obvious explanation. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Dec 1 10:51:31 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 09:59:52 2013. Oh stop being so po-faced... |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 11:03:13 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Dec 1 10:51:31 2013. While there can be humor in tragedy, you can't expect someone whose colleagues have been injured and possibly killed to appreciate it. |
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Posted by d to e to jamaica on Sun Dec 1 11:17:14 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 11:03:13 2013. These reporters are idiots. one ABC reporter actually said that the CONDUCTOR WAS DRIVING THE TRAIN FROM THE REAR. Fucking idiots |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 1 11:35:53 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Dec 1 10:38:04 2013. It would have been far worse had this been a morning rush hour train.My blog |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 11:39:10 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Dec 1 11:35:53 2013. 100 vs 650+ passengers. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Dec 1 11:53:42 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by ClearAspect on Sun Dec 1 09:06:32 2013. Remember, it's leaf season. Perhaps the train slid. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:54:48 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Dec 1 11:53:42 2013. You're funny. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 1 11:56:24 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 09:06:20 2013. The NBC idiot has no respect for the victims; they insist on broadcasting lies no matter what they are. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 1 12:00:07 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by R30A on Sun Dec 1 09:14:47 2013. Huh? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 1 12:02:15 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 1 11:56:24 2013. There's a big difference between lies and stupidity. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Dec 1 12:06:12 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 11:54:48 2013. How so? There's multiple reports of the train going too fast for the curve. The brake application could have failed, and the train kept going at speed.If you have a better guess, I'd like to hear it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 1 12:07:28 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 1 08:49:29 2013. All cars plus the locomotive derailed.Take Pride,
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 12:07:48 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Dec 1 12:06:12 2013. You may have a point. Loss of rail adhesion might explain why the brakes did not work. (assuming that's the case) |
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Posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Dec 1 12:39:27 2013, in response to Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Dec 1 07:55:15 2013. From WCBS 880am 1237pm ESTAmtrak Empire Service Trains will resume service shortly. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 12:39:35 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 1 12:07:48 2013. I always thought that you could stop a train on tracks oily with wet leaf residue, that the danger was just getting flat wheels, not total inability to stop. |
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Posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Dec 1 12:41:48 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Dec 1 12:39:27 2013. From WCBS 880am 1241pm EST:Amtrak Empire Service running NORMAL Service! |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Dec 1 12:44:35 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Euclid Avenue A Train on Sun Dec 1 12:39:27 2013. Yup 254 was cleared to depart ALB at around noon (1:45 late). I'd imagine everything should be more or less back to normal on their front by about 3PM. Many delayed Canadians at ALB though... |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Dec 1 12:45:21 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Dec 1 10:38:04 2013. Wayne: Sad news indeed. Not only the tragic loss of life and the injuries but the loss of confidence in the railroad by the passengers who depend on us to get them to their destinations safely.So far I have been able to identify the following equipment involved in the wreck. CDOT Shoreliner IVA 6222 (cab - lead car) and 6288 (tlr), Shoreliner I 6156 - Beacon (tlr) and Shoreliner 6188 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt (tlr). The engine was P-32 225. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 1 12:50:51 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 1 12:02:15 2013. It seems that a lot of people on this board have no idea what "lies" are. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 1 12:52:28 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 12:39:35 2013. But aren't flat wheels caused by stopped wheels sliding down the tracks? That implies longer braking distance. |
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Re: MNRR Derailment 63 injured 4 dead 8-( |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sun Dec 1 12:54:42 2013, in response to Re: MNRR Derailment 63 injured 4 dead 8-(, posted by italianstallion on Sun Dec 1 10:23:47 2013. 8-( |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sun Dec 1 12:57:27 2013, in response to Re: Breaking News MNRR Derailment, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 1 10:50:03 2013. A lot to take it off the tracks, and almost into the river.Pee in a cup, and take a pint of blood. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 13:09:46 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 1 09:51:38 2013. I know the engineer of this train, and I know him WELL, no effin' way he would be so stupid like the engineer in the Spain wreck!!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 13:10:41 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by Fred G on Sun Dec 1 09:08:23 2013. Yep, looks like it!!!!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Dec 1 13:14:11 2013, in response to Re: PHOTO - Genny on its side, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Dec 1 10:51:31 2013. I stand by my point!!! Let's stay on topic, please!! |
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