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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 22 09:47:57 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 22 09:45:18 2009.

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The only thing that may be city about some of us who work for NYC Transit is the pension, NYCERS and the Agency some of us got hired though, NYC DCAS...



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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by arnine on Sun Nov 22 09:56:37 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Railman718 on Sun Nov 22 09:47:57 2009.

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Exactly. But, to think all city workers should ride free IMHO is ridiculus. Then all of our taxes go up again to cover the MTA/NYCT's loss of revenue

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Working Class on Sun Nov 22 11:22:42 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Sun Nov 22 09:40:34 2009.

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Why exacly should NYPD and NYFD ride for free? What makes them more important than the other ESSENTIAL employees?

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by arnine on Sun Nov 22 11:37:33 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Working Class on Sun Nov 22 11:22:42 2009.

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I think the answer is obvious, but NYPD because they are responding to emergencies and IIRC they have MetroCards already. Not sure if off-duty cops should ride free though. Same with NYFD.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:46:41 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Working Class on Sun Nov 22 11:22:42 2009.

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There is a positive externality from emergency workers riding mass transit in that they can respond to emergencies! There is little positive externality from other city employees.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:48:34 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 03:40:18 2009.

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Why should other workers pay for city workers' free rides? What about those who would rather keep the money for something else? If they would give employees something from taxes, then it should be higher pay, although I think they should pay them whatever the market rate for such a position is.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 22:34:27 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 19:48:34 2009.

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To help keep the city they live in running maybe.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Nov 22 22:41:51 2009, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 22:34:27 2009.

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How would giving them free rides help keep the city running?

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by b1bus on Tue Sep 24 02:09:18 2013, in response to Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by b1bus on Thu Nov 19 19:58:59 2009.

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Sorry to bring back an old post, but 1 of my still working Station Agent friends now has a Senior metrocard which answered my question.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 24 02:33:15 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by b1bus on Tue Sep 24 02:09:18 2013.

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Dunno if you'd want to tell us, but I'd be curious about that answer. Just to cheese off somebody else here, I'd like to look into that for myself. :)

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Stef on Tue Sep 24 02:51:52 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by b1bus on Tue Sep 24 02:09:18 2013.

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Getting a Senior Citizen Reduced Fare Card shouldn't be an issue since the EPIC PASSES are not honored outside of the NYCT Subways and Buses.

I see it as an equivalent of having an EPIC PASS and a regular Metrocard. If I get on a MTA Bus for instance, I'll use my regular full fare card. I never flash my pass and I don't expect a free ride either.

-Stef

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by The silence on Tue Sep 24 02:56:08 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Nov 20 14:57:50 2009.

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Except the city has a LOT of employees...

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by snarf368 on Tue Sep 24 07:39:05 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Fri Nov 20 13:57:33 2009.

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NYPD cops get an unlimited metrocard and they are capable of consecutive swipes although they are tracked and can come under scrutiny for abuse. There was an incident a few years back when cops couldn't chase a perp into a station because they lacked cards and couldn't get thru the full height turnstile.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by snarf368 on Tue Sep 24 08:37:04 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Nov 22 22:34:27 2009.

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The only reason city employees should be issued a metrocard is if they are traveling for official city business during work hours. Not used for travelling to and from work. In fact travelling via public transportation should be mandatory unless its an emergency or transporting of items. During Bloomberg's administration he has tried to reduce the amount of city cars that were and are often abused.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Tue Sep 24 09:04:18 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Sat Nov 21 20:29:01 2009.

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In other ways they are not. Plenty of folks I know still work for the TA and live in PA and NJ so they follow state wishes

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Sep 24 09:44:01 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by snarf368 on Tue Sep 24 07:39:05 2013.

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Will you please stop posing items or answering them from 5 years ago.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by snarf368 on Tue Sep 24 10:57:51 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Sep 24 09:44:01 2013.

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Will you please stop posing items or answering them from 5 years ago.

Dan Lawrence, are you a moderator? There are folks on this board that weren't around 5 years ago that may not know something. what may be old news to you are new to others. Good day sir.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 14:51:23 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by The silence on Tue Sep 24 02:56:08 2013.

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Years ago there were article in the Daily News indicating that many people seem to think that all city employees ride free on the NYCTS and that was never true. Free rides were permitted to all NYCTS employees, and members of the NYPD and FDNY. At one time Fire fighters and POs were allowed free access whether in or out of uniform but that has been modified in various ways over the years.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 14:54:29 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by arnine on Sun Nov 22 11:37:33 2009.

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"There is no such thing as an off duty cop !" Firefighters too have certain skills which can be used in the event of an emergency which many other city employees lack.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 14:58:35 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by IRT/O on Sun Nov 22 00:22:48 2009.

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SIR employees were under railroad retirement, but I'm not sure about any other pension benefits. I have heard that the MTA wants to establish a separate pension system apart from NYCERS for new hires but I have no further info.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 15:01:28 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by BLE-NIMX on Tue Sep 24 09:04:18 2013.

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The reason that is allowed goes back to the establishment of the original NYCTA in 1953. Once it was established that city tax revenue would no longer be used for employee wages or salaries, the requirement that NYCTS employees live within the city was abolished.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 15:04:49 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Fri Nov 20 15:35:45 2009.

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That may still work on M/N but recent LIRR policy seems to make it more expensive to apply for a refund than the ticket is worth.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by chud1 on Tue Sep 24 15:38:16 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 14:54:29 2013.

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i agree randyo. i come from a family of Firefighters and NYPd and have friends on both departments.
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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by MR RT on Thu Sep 26 07:44:04 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 14:51:23 2013.

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NYCT employees ride free on the subway system & LOCAL transit buses.
MTA Bus employees ride free on their fleet.

What is suppose to happen is that the employee swipes/dips their ID(MC). That ID is also used to swipe in & out.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Sep 26 15:43:05 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 24 14:51:23 2013.

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show your nypd,fdny badge to the booth clerk&they will buzz you in.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by randyo on Thu Sep 26 15:54:20 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by tunnelrat on Thu Sep 26 15:43:05 2013.

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Thanks, but I have a regular TA pass! However, it's good to know in case some of my NYPD and FDNY friends aren't aware of it although they probably already are.

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Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?

Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Sep 26 16:03:17 2013, in response to Re: Can employees have 1/2 fare metrocards as well as employee passes?, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 26 15:54:20 2013.

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active cops have a transit pass that is good on nyct,lirr,metro north.I don`t know about firemen.

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