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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 16 09:16:11 2013, in response to Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Sep 16 09:03:47 2013.

Glad to hear it ... the original Canarsie deal was a proprietary mess. Sure glad they not step in it again. :)

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 16 14:08:12 2013, in response to Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 16 09:16:11 2013.

I wonder how many years they will end up getting out of their CBTC system vs. how much it cost. :-(

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Re: The details... Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 16 14:13:14 2013, in response to Re: The details... Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Sep 14 08:31:30 2013.

Actually, for operational convenience, they should at least paint the M-9's to look different, if these cars aren't going to be compatible with the M-7's.

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 16 14:34:18 2013, in response to Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by 3-9 on Mon Sep 16 14:08:12 2013.

Good question ... I guess we'll find out. :)

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(Base contract is $355.5 Million) Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Sep 16 17:37:18 2013, in response to M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by mkeit on Fri Sep 13 23:02:09 2013.

92 cars amount of $355.5 Million, that is about $3.8 Million per car... not $20 million per car from someone in railroad.net forum.

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Lincoln Journal Star: Kawasaki in line for more than $2 billion in rail car orders

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Sep 16 17:40:31 2013, in response to M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by mkeit on Fri Sep 13 23:02:09 2013.

Lincoln, Nebraska where Kawasaki produces the rail cars...



Kawasaki Rail Car Inc. is poised to get what appears to be the largest single contract in its history.

The Long Island and Metro-North committees of the Metropolitan Transportation Agency jointly approved Kawasaki's bid of more than $1.8 billion to provide M-9 cars to both the Long Island and Metro-North railroads in the New York City metropolitan area. An agenda for Monday's meeting said Kawasaki's bid was chosen over two others.

The full Metropolitan Transportation Agency board will vote on the contract Wednesday.

The contract calls for design, manufacture and testing of 92 cars initially for the Long Island Railroad, with options for an additional 584 cars for both the Long Island and Metro-North railroads. The cars would be built in Lincoln.

MTA spokeswoman Marjorie Anders said the initial portion of the contract is worth $355.5 million and is in the rail system's current capital budget that goes through next year. The remainder of the contract would be dependent on the availability of future funding from 2015-2019, she said.

Assuming there is money and MTA exercises the options, Kawasaki would build up to 304 additional cars for the Long Island Railroad and up to 280 cars for Metro-North Railroad, Anders said.

Mike Boyle, Kawasaki's Lincoln plant manager and a company vice president, said the MTA contract, including the future options, would be Kawasaki Rail Car's largest single contract to date. He declined to comment further because the contract has not yet been approved.

The MTA contract wasn't the only good news to come Kawasaki's way.

Last week, the general manager of Washington, D.C.'s Metropolitan Area Transit Authority told the authority's board that the rail system would exercise an option to purchase an additional 220 rail cars from Kawasaki.

That will be worth an additional $400 million, and bring the value of Kawasaki's contract with the D.C. authority to around $1.5 million.

Kawasaki signed an $886 million deal in 2010 to build 428 new cars for the authority, and earlier this year, the authority exercised a $215 million option for an additional 100 cars.

Boyle also declined to comment on that contract option because it has yet to be officially approved.

Despite the size of the contracts, Boyle said they would not lead to additional employment at the Lincoln rail car plant, which currently employs 600 people. Boyle said Kawasaki's full Lincoln operation, which also includes manufacturing of personal watercraft and work and recreational vehicles, employs 1,700, he said.

http://journalstar.com/business/local/kawasaki-in-line-for-more-than-billion-in-rail-car/article_2b850ef2-7dfa-5c00-a73b-3acc1f60bf53.html

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Re: Lincoln Journal Star: Kawasaki in line for more than $2 billion in rail car orders

Posted by randyo on Tue Sep 17 00:46:10 2013, in response to Lincoln Journal Star: Kawasaki in line for more than $2 billion in rail car orders, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Sep 16 17:40:31 2013.

So who REALLY won WWII?

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Re: Lincoln Journal Star: Kawasaki in line for more than $2 billion in rail car orders

Posted by WillD on Tue Sep 17 03:00:05 2013, in response to Re: Lincoln Journal Star: Kawasaki in line for more than $2 billion in rail car orders, posted by randyo on Tue Sep 17 00:46:10 2013.

Apparently Nebraska.

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by NorthShore on Tue Sep 17 10:13:38 2013, in response to M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by mkeit on Fri Sep 13 23:02:09 2013.

The new LIRR & Metro-North M-9 cars that will replace the M-3's in 2017 will feature a wider car (2 inches),additional seating (relocated equipment storage),wider seats, redesigned smooth armrests, pushbutton pocket doors for easier movement between cars, larger windows, automatic interior & exterior PA systems, upgraded AC and sophisticated diagnostic equipment for servicing,WiFi, digital and visual announcements. Color schemes will be determined by focus groups.

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by jace on Tue Sep 17 10:32:14 2013, in response to Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by Gold_12th on Sat Sep 14 00:30:27 2013.

CAF is not on NYCT's approved supplier list as a carbuilder. If they want to win this contract on their own, they'd first have to get qualified by going through a loan agreement process, basically building a train on their dime to prove it will work. Rotem started that route a few years ago but gave up.

As it stands now, approved suppliers for the R211 are Alstom, Kawasaki and Bombardier (or any combination of the three). CAF can potentially be brought as a subsupplier to one of these three building someone else's design (similar to what Alstom ended up doing on the R160). Given their ability to build stainless shells and that they're in New York, I see this as a strong possiblity.

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 17 12:05:04 2013, in response to Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by NorthShore on Tue Sep 17 10:13:38 2013.

Focus...
Focus..
Hocus Pocus....

If you ask the LION they will be GREEN with Yellow Trim

Focus
Focus

Fuzzy Focus

stake holders tearing each other from limb to limb

LION will some and eat up the tasty ones.
ROAR

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Sep 17 15:13:18 2013, in response to M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by mkeit on Fri Sep 13 23:02:09 2013.

Kawasaki lets the good times roll!!

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Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 17 19:51:05 2013, in response to Re: M-9 contract to Kawasaki, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Sep 17 15:13:18 2013.

Well ... DO remember that they built the 143's, so I guess it depends on how much folks like them. :)

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