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R32's on the J |
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Posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013 Took these photos and vids today:          til next time |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 3 23:52:50 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. How easy is it to catch one of these? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 4 00:03:44 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 3 23:52:50 2013. saw plenty of them today... |
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Posted by renee gil on Thu Jul 4 00:19:41 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jul 4 00:03:44 2013. nice. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jul 4 00:21:07 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. How many sets of R32s are at ENY now? |
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Posted by renee gil on Thu Jul 4 00:23:32 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jul 4 00:21:07 2013. someone in another thread posted that there are 6 car sets of 32's at ENY. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 4 07:24:20 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. "Lower Manhattan Broad Street " |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jul 4 08:29:40 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. Nice!!!!!! :-) |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 4 10:56:13 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 4 07:24:20 2013. Why did they do that? What was wrong with original "Broad St Manhattan" rolls? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 4 11:26:28 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 4 10:56:13 2013. It should say Broad Street, Wall Street. The train runs along Broad Street. Name the cross street. Everybody in the world knows what boro Wall Street is in. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Thu Jul 4 12:33:32 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 3 23:52:50 2013. It's easiest if you wait for it to stop. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jul 4 14:12:41 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 4 10:56:13 2013. Same as "145 St. Harlem". It's been a while since they started using neighborhood names instead of borough names. |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jul 4 19:45:23 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jul 4 08:29:40 2013. Thanks!til next time |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jul 4 19:48:47 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Jul 4 00:21:07 2013. When I was out there yesterday,there were 3 trainsets on the road and 3 at ENY yard.the 3 in the yard were signed as Z trains.til next time |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 4 20:21:53 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Thu Jul 4 19:48:47 2013. Easy to tell from a distance on the side route sogn:Centered brown circle - must be Z Left-justified brown circle- must be J |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jul 4 22:51:20 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. I quite frankly don't understand all the fuss about the A/C performance on the R-32s. When the cars were GOHed, didn't the MTA specify the conditions under which the cars would have to operate so that the A/C would function as intended? |
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Posted by renee gil on Thu Jul 4 23:01:09 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Thu Jul 4 19:48:47 2013. really? i thought it was a little more than that.... |
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Posted by gbs on Thu Jul 4 23:22:54 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 4 22:51:20 2013. According to a NYTimes article this week about the severe heat wave in the southwest, Phoenix reached 119 degrees and planes had to be grounded at the airport because the manufacturer's specs said the planes were safe to 118 degrees. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 5 01:52:46 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by renee gil on Thu Jul 4 00:19:41 2013. about three were on the road today that i've seen..along with a few 42s..including the one we were on..roads were JACKED UP TOADY..the subway was the very best option for traveling. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Fri Jul 5 03:55:58 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. 3840 there has a leaky problem when it rains! I rode that car back to Parsons/Archer two days ago in that rain storm! Nice pics! |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 5 06:03:59 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by randyo on Thu Jul 4 22:51:20 2013. Why did R32's get systems inferior to the R42's when both were GOH's by M-K around the same time ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 5 06:05:23 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by JBar387 on Fri Jul 5 03:55:58 2013. Wonder if the will ever get to mixed consists ? They could do 6 + 2 without messing up C/R positions. They did mix R32 with R38's in the latter's dying days |
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Posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 5 08:48:38 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 5 06:03:59 2013. The A/C worked fine for years when the R32s were on the E train. A few years ago A/C problems started. I suspect the MTA cut back on maintenance when they thought they would be getting rid of the cars soon. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Fri Jul 5 13:01:24 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 5 06:05:23 2013. Hopefully not, That R32-38 mix if I recall was because there were extra equiptment to make a salad train. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 5 17:34:47 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 5 08:48:38 2013. "I suspect the MTA cut back on maintenance when they thought they would be getting rid of the cars soon. "And you'd be 100% wrong. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 5 18:32:42 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 5 17:34:47 2013. OK, then why did cars that had reliable A/C suddenly start having problems? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 5 18:57:59 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 5 18:32:42 2013. I worked the E just before the V train came into play and the air conditioning was horrible. Yet when we took the trains to the yard they were OK. Why? because they couldn't handle the hot stations, doors opening and closing every few minutes and the heavy crowds on the E. Once the door stayed closed for awhile and there weren't throngs of passengers inside, they cooled off nicely.You can't compare R42's to R32's with air conditioning because it was retrofitted at GOH into the R32's whereas the R42's were built/designed with it. You had to find a place to fit all the hardware into the R32's and perhaps some components are smaller or poorly placed just to fit the stuff in. IMO a/c on the IRT Redbirds generally sucked since it was retrofitted rather than manufactured with it. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 5 19:01:40 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by JBar387 on Fri Jul 5 13:01:24 2013. ...........and they looked alike too.R32's have drumswitches for door operation whereas the R42's don't. These drumswitches are set up to "on" at the c/r cabs, "off" at the train operators cabs, and "thru" at all other cabs. Therefore, you will not see R32's and R42's mixed on the road. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 5 19:21:07 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 5 18:57:59 2013. Precisely! I still can't get over redbirds and 32's with AC on them instead of the huge fans along the roofline. Completely unnatural. :) |
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Posted by joe c on Fri Jul 5 19:48:07 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by JBar387 on Fri Jul 5 03:55:58 2013. Thanks!til next time |
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Posted by renee gil on Fri Jul 5 20:10:54 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 4 20:21:53 2013. yup. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 01:23:36 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 5 18:32:42 2013. You're starting with an incorrect premise. The A/C units on the R-32s were not all that good on the E-line as compared to when they were newer. They are older still, now and the condensers have become less efficient with age. This causes the compressor motors to work harder and overheat. There are/were other issues that were shop specific but for all intents and purposes, your original statement that the MTA cut back maintenance was totally without merit. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Jul 6 04:15:02 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 5 19:01:40 2013. Thank goodness! But can't say it never happened (Note the R-32's on the end!)
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 6 04:29:14 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by JBar387 on Sat Jul 6 04:15:02 2013. Funny thing about the old cars, at least PRE-GOH ... door controls are trainline on the electric portions. We had R10's in the mix as well. Bill's right about the 42's not having drum switches, but there was door control in the cab, just wasn't a drum switch.As far as trainline went though, it all worked anyway. Even air doors did their thing when you turned the key. We were trained back then to just deal with it. Drum switches as Bill said, and MDC on the 42's. It all set up properly. And changing sides in the middle of those monstrosities COULD get interesting. Fortunately nobody was stupid enough when knocking together cars to put triggers and caps in the middle. :) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 05:44:44 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 01:23:36 2013. The number of arm-chair experts on this board is truly amazing isn't it? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 07:53:19 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 05:44:44 2013. Staggering is the word. But there are also those with axes to grind who "leak" false information to the foamers to make the "TA" look bad and themselves look relevant as well. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 07:56:32 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 6 01:23:36 2013. Steve these folks crack me up..Arm chair RTO folks.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 07:57:28 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 05:44:44 2013. Exactly Bill never worked a day down here yet know all about trains.. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 08:09:02 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 07:57:28 2013. The same ones who claim they want to learn are the same ones who make these outlandish statements of "fact". Then when they are corrected, they don't want to hear it. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 08:15:22 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 07:57:28 2013. They also couldn't.Once they are assigned to midnights with W/T off; don't know what a holiday is; February vacation; want a weekend off and get denied because they put in the request 2 minutes late for that special family event, or couldn't get to a phone because they were on the road; walk thru a yard or on a structure in the freezing cold/snow; emergency brake activation in a tube because a signal flashed to red in your face due to Sandy damage and you have to go onto the roadbed or in between cars....... Oh how I wish my financial situation could let me get out NOW! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 6 08:24:47 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 08:15:22 2013. Hey when I was extra extra I got bit a few times its part of the job. Some folks hear us talk talk talk and say "Nah that won't be me ill deal". Then they come down here and reality sets in. This job can do it to some folks but i still enjoy moving the trains! |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 6 09:14:09 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 5 19:01:40 2013. Did the R38 have the same drumswitch set-up as the R32 ?Did the R40 (slant and mod) have the same drumswitch set-up as the R42 ? I suspect yes, as they mixed consists until their end. There was an anecdotal report here about 8 years ago of a 6+2 R38/R40 mixed consist on the "C". How would that have been possible ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 6 09:18:33 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by merrick1 on Fri Jul 5 18:32:42 2013. Do you have central AC in your home ? I do. After 20 years, the compressors physically deteriorate, are more likely to fail, and take a tremendous surge of power to start, start with a bang, and more kilowatt hours to keep running. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 6 09:20:28 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 5 18:57:59 2013. On the R40 Slants, I think 100 had OEM AC, and 200 were retrofits.In their post-GOH life, was there any difference in AC reliability between the 2 groups ? |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Jul 6 09:41:29 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. Friday July 5Jamaica Center  Van Siclen  Duh   Broadway Junction  ENY Yard: J at the left and Z at the right   
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 6 09:54:23 2013, in response to PHOTOS: Re: R32's on the J, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jul 6 09:41:29 2013. The side south and route sign fonts are so nice and clean- their position has never seen the light of day before. |
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Posted by grand concourse on Sat Jul 6 10:28:45 2013, in response to PHOTOS: Re: R32's on the J, posted by chuchubob on Sat Jul 6 09:41:29 2013. Very nice! |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jul 6 12:12:21 2013, in response to R32's on the J, posted by joe c on Wed Jul 3 22:55:42 2013. Nice work, Joe!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat Jul 6 13:01:47 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 05:44:44 2013. I was commenting from my point of view as a passenger. I certainly didn't criticize anyone. "The MTA" is not a person. Well, it probably is given recent Supreme Court decisions. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 6 13:04:50 2013, in response to Re: R32's on the J, posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 6 09:14:09 2013. The R38's were the last model to have drumswitches. The R1's were first. One of the first things we were taught about the R10's (include all classes R1 to R14) was to make sure to "cap down" before changing a drum switch otherwise the doors could fly open. |
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