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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 23:11:29 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 20 14:59:57 2013. IIRC the upper Lex was begun even before the Dual Contracts were signed. It was built to BMT clearances. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 23:13:03 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 20 09:22:01 2013. Sadly, some people only think of themselves, as if the whole world revolved around them. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jun 21 23:54:02 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. So you'll be able to take the subway to the Javits Center ... which is completely obsolete, being far too small to handle today's mega-conventions.My blog |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 00:23:44 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 21 23:11:29 2013. thats right..it was suppose to be a TRIBORO SUBWAY line[Lower Broadway from Bklyn to Union Square,then under Lexington Avenue to the Pelham and Woodlawn branches.]the IRT bitched so much about needing a east side route..instead of just taking the 3rd ave subway option via the Manhattan Bridge...they wanted the Lex.[3rd ave was even built into the Bowery st station tunnel box..]yet plans for it were dropped. The lower Bway line,meanwhile,was redesigned. it stayed under Bway to times square..then 7th ave..with the intentions of heading to upper Manhattan under Central Park West..joining another BMT line from 8th avenue...along with a branch line to Queens under 60th st. there were so many plans for the BWAY LINE..LEXINGTON LINE..and their various branches..hardly any of them came to life outside of what we have now. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 00:27:16 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jun 20 09:22:01 2013. the MTA could have got it done ages ago..they decided not to build another branch off the A line..or the route along the Van Wyck.the VWE route would have taken them right into JFK. The same route the AIRTRAIN uses today. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 22 10:28:32 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 00:23:44 2013. lex.ave was excavated from 23 to 40th.st.as a BRT.SUBWAY.PLANS FELL THRU and it was backfilled. do you have info if the bowery station has any platforms or if it just an empty space. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jun 22 11:46:44 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jun 21 23:54:02 2013. That extension would have been better had it gone all of the way to connect with the "L' train at 14Th St. and 8Th Ave.With the "L" Terminating at the Jacobs center from the South and the Seven terminating at the Center from the North. The "L' could have an ample lay-up and turn facility to speed up service. Think of the many possible terminal set-ups! |
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Posted by VictorM on Sat Jun 22 15:41:13 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 22 10:28:32 2013. Joe Brennan's web site has excellent information about the Bowery Station on the J/Z. The original blueprints show "future doorways" from the current east mezzanine and closed west mezzanine to the side platforms for the 3rd Av subway that was never built. Except for the "future doorways" there apparently was no construction. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jun 22 20:54:48 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by VictorM on Sat Jun 22 15:41:13 2013. if you look at the ceiling from track level you can see trackways,much like Utica ave. on the A line.I think there is a large empty room where the station was supposed to be. thanks for the site. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jun 22 20:59:37 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Fri Jun 21 15:00:06 2013. Someone must have told them the ceremonial train of SMEEs would not be able to run if the doors were in place opening day :).On a serious note, when it opens the line will be mixed R188 - R62A, so half the fleet wouldn't line up properly. The 7 is probably the only line that could get PSD cheaply. Grand Central doesn't have columns in the way, so that leaves only five underground stops to find creative solutions for. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jun 22 22:45:49 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jun 21 23:54:02 2013. At least it would shorten the walk to megabus... |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jun 23 17:06:48 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jun 22 00:23:44 2013. That's not the way I remember it from a PSC report I have from circa 1915. The Lex was going to be a part of the IRT, but the IRT withdrew from the dual contracts in protest for not getting the 4 Av subway, When the PSC decided to award the new subway Lines in the Bronx and the Lex to the BRT and started building the connection from the lower Bway Subway up Lex, the IRT reconsidered and decided it would be satisfies with the lines it was awarded in Bkln so it got back the Lex, Pelham and Jerome lines and the lower Lex subway infrastructure was backfilled. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jun 24 19:52:50 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157634304964966/slideshow: |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Mon Jun 24 20:21:00 2013, in response to *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jun 24 19:52:50 2013. Cool..The finish line is within sight! |
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Posted by MTA T on Mon Jun 24 21:56:18 2013, in response to *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jun 24 19:52:50 2013. Holy damn... this is real impressive progress! |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Jun 25 04:30:53 2013, in response to *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jun 24 19:52:50 2013. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars on slideshow.chud1. :).... |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jun 25 07:32:26 2013, in response to *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jun 24 19:52:50 2013. And this extension is to open when? |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jun 25 08:32:58 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. Will there be A/C or a cooling system in the new station? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:36:36 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jun 25 07:32:26 2013. Next year. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jun 25 10:21:05 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:36:36 2013. Okay, would that be December 2914? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jun 25 10:22:13 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 25 09:36:36 2013. Fat finger it should have been, would that be December 2014? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Jun 25 14:03:03 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jun 25 10:22:13 2013. Supposedly, Christmas 2013.... add six months = JUNE 2014 |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Jun 25 14:04:16 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jun 25 08:32:58 2013. HVAC system in that new station |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 25 14:20:18 2013, in response to *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Jun 24 19:52:50 2013. It looks like the extension will be opened with conventional signaling first rather than CBTC which apparently wont be installed on the Flushing Line in time. |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Jun 25 22:12:24 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Jun 25 14:03:03 2013. Once opened, will trains be allowed to go full speed or subject to timers? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Jun 25 22:53:11 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Jun 25 22:12:24 2013. It should go full speed when they already built trail tracks to 26 St. |
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Posted by Gene B. on Wed Jun 26 19:26:36 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Jun 19 14:04:21 2013. In the end, they didn't even cut out a station shell which would have been easily completed at a later date. Another example of people playing CYA and not looking out for the transit riders of the New York Metropolitan area. Even if it comes from different sources, how can the lack of a station at 10th Avenue and 41st Street and extensions in Queens be less critical than spending over half a billion dollars to try and fix the new South Ferry station? |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jun 27 02:51:45 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gene B. on Wed Jun 26 19:26:36 2013. Because the feds didn't provide money to build the 7 train extension. South Ferry was constructed with funds explicitly earmarked for Lower Manhattan as 9/11 relief funds. Ditto the Sandy relief funds. In both cases the money couldn't be spent elsewhere in the city. I'd argue there were other projects in Lower Manhattan more deserving of the money (constructing Phase IV of the SAS with a Shallow Chrystie being a good example), but what's done is done.The 7 train extension was built by the city with tax increment funding. Essentially the city floated a few bonds on the expected increase in tax revenue from the redevelopment of the west side in part due to the extension of the 7 train into the area. I don't know for certain, but I believe it was the changing in those redevelopment plans and the economic downturn which has reduced the expected increase in revenue and brought about a slight reduction in the project scope. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 27 07:01:09 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. How was this project able to move along so quickly and so under the radar while the Stubway is taking forever? |
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Posted by geoffc on Thu Jun 27 10:12:37 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 27 07:01:09 2013. Easy, one station. The killer time wise is the station building, because they are not building IRT style simple stations, rather the IND monstrosities. They are lovely, but who cares. We need a staircase down from the street, to the platform. Probably an elevator, but simpler is better.The TBM's seem to be the 'easy' part. Ya, big launch box, and muck houses and support structures, but they basically just go, and get the job done much faster than the stations are built. I forget, did the 7 tube go over, or under the Lincoln Tunnel tubes? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 04:17:42 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 21 15:25:53 2013. Any attempted extension north from Ditmars would almost certainly disrupt the heart of Astoria for years.No it wouldn't. that's the last couple of blocks of residential housing in Astoria. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 28 04:26:06 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 28 04:17:42 2013. And the locals prefer the comforting sounds of trains dumping THERE instead of somewhere else. Some folks just LOVE their trains. :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 9 20:20:23 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Jun 25 10:21:05 2013. 2914 is far in the future!!!! Nobody alive today will be alive in 2914. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 9 20:21:53 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 9 20:20:23 2013. NO SHIT! |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 9 20:24:53 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 9 20:20:23 2013. Good.I don't have to worry about being Y3K compliance in I-T. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 9 20:34:12 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 9 20:24:53 2013. Just WHATEVER you do, don't be on a train on GMT 03:14:07, Tuesday, January 19, 2038 ... that's unix meltdown day and by then, Windows will probably be running it. :) |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 9 20:44:18 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 9 20:34:12 2013. Was 38 a Y2K pivot year for Unix ? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jul 9 22:39:37 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 21 15:25:53 2013. The GCP routing has serious engineering issues to get under the Hell Gate viaduct. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jul 9 22:41:24 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jun 21 23:54:02 2013. Javits Center was never the point of the extension. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jul 9 23:03:26 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Tue Jun 25 22:12:24 2013. Timers downgrade from Times Square to the new station. Standard 20 MPH switches, most likely subject to GT-20s. I would imagine trains can enter straight-in at full speed much like Jamaica Center, as long as no trains are stored beyond the station. However, with the additional interlocking south of the station, the signal protective distance may be great enough to still allow the train to enter at full speed. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 9 23:04:23 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by italianstallion on Tue Jul 9 22:39:37 2013. It would never cross under it at any point. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Jul 9 23:23:30 2013, in response to Re: (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 9 23:04:23 2013. How do you figure that? The viaduct crosses over the GCP at 42 St. in Astoria. |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 9 23:41:10 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 9 20:34:12 2013. Ahem:
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 10 00:06:31 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 9 20:44:18 2013. Yep ... 16 bits vs 32 bits of clocking. Everything's 64 bits now and most unices have already been fixed ... but older ones still lurk out there. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 10 00:08:12 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 9 23:41:10 2013. Heh. Meanwhile, over at Atari ... |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Jul 10 01:00:15 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jul 9 23:03:26 2013. Speaking of entering Jamaica Center, do you know why the Jamaica-bound J's entering Sutphin Blvd must encounter that incredibly restrictive timer right outside the station? Whatever the speed sign shows (20 or 25) the trains must almost come to a complete stop before the signal (lunar white) clears, even though the station is empty. The E's on the upper level don't have a similar restriction, and they're entering from much more of a curve than the J's. |
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Posted by menJop on Wed Jul 10 01:04:01 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by WillD on Tue Jul 9 23:41:10 2013. I recently overheard some younger guys at work (I'm a programmer) talking about Y2K like it was something they'd heard about from the their grandparents.Made me feel old :-( |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 10 02:58:28 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 10 00:06:31 2013. Like my Power Mac G4? Or does Apple do things their own special way? |
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Posted by geoffc on Wed Jul 10 06:09:40 2013, in response to Re: *EVEN MORE pics* (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 10 00:06:31 2013. Unixtime is a 32 bit int (sometimes signed, sometimes not) that counts the seconds since Jan 1, 1970. This runs out of 2 billion seconds (signed int version) in 2037. If you use it unsigned (then no dates before 1970) it runs out in 2109.Filetime is a 64 bit int that Windows is using (not everywhere but most places) that counts 100 nanosecond intervals since Jan 1, 1601. It is signed, so it can go backwards as well. But a 64 bit int is so big, this runs out hugely in the future. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jul 10 06:46:02 2013, in response to (7) line extension update photos 6/2013, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Jun 19 14:01:15 2013. Neat- and thanks for posting. But what is being built at W25th Street- almost 10 blocks from the passenger entrances? If they're building a 10-block long layup track, maybe someday we could get further expansion... |
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